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DrewKby: karpyshyn date posted: Jan 12, 2008 12:20 AM |

Rule of Two - reaction and response |
Geez... it's been a month since I last posted a blog. (Or you could get kitschy and say "I haven't posted a blog since last year!")
Where did the time go? Well, Christmas and New Year's ate up a chunk, as did my work on Mass Effect: Ascension - the sequel novel to Mass Effect: Revelation (yeah, I know it's not SW, but I thought I'd sneak it in).
But I'm not here to shamelessly plug my next book. (Mass Effect: Ascension - coming in July 2008! Based on the critically acclaimed bestselling video game!) I'm actually here to talk about Darth Bane: Rule of Two, and give my take on how my latest SW novel has been received by you, the fans. I did something similar in one of my blogs long ago, when Path of Destruction was released.
If you read that blog, you might remember my eloquent, impassioned defense against the continuity conformists who took umbrage with my work. Or you might have dismissed it as a hack trying to justify his butchering of a treasured comic series. Whatever floats your boat - it was cathartic for me, so I thought I'd do it again. However, for good or ill, this blog won't be nearly as confrontational.
First, let's start with some good news. Rule of Two debuted at #14 on the New York Times bestseller list last week, and this week it actually *climbed* two spots to #12 - first time that's ever happened with one of my novels. (Like I've had soooo many on the list.) So, from me to all the Bane fans out there -
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
Overall the reader reaction has been very positive, as evidenced by e-mails I've received, amazon reviews, blogs here on starwars.com, etc. (And, as a side note, I do read all comments on my blog, even though I don't always respond. So thanks to everyone who posts here!)
This is my first sequel, and I was a little nervous about what people would think. (I wrote the third Baldur's Gate novel, but the other two were written by someone else so it doesn't count.) Would they find RoT too similar to PoD; just more of the same ol' same 'ol? Would they find it too different, losing the magic they loved from the first one? In the end, I decided not to worry about things like that, and I just threw myself back into Bane's character and let events sort of unfold on the page. Fortunately, people seemed to enjoy the result.
I haven't done too bad on the continuity issues this time around. (This is not the Chiss you're looking for...) That's probably because I was working in a relatively unexplored time period, so there wasn't as much for me to screw up. Or maybe readers just expect that of me now, so they cut me some slack.
However, there were two nagging issues that I have seen mentioned a few times.
Issue the First, or "What's with all the typos?"
In the forward of the novel, I mentioned that Rule of Two was written and published in the space of six months - a very short time period for a novel. I did this to acknowledge the incredible job the Del Rey and LucasBooks teams did in putting the novel together under such a tight deadline. In retrospect, that might have been a mistake.
I've seen several people comment on typos in the novel, and they almost invariably follow this up with some type of remark alluding to my comment in the forward. (Eg: I found a lot of typos. The author said it was written in six months. Maybe they should have taken more time and made less mistakes.)
I think my comment put people into the frame of mind where they were subconsciously looking for typos or other evidence that the novel was "rushed"; it made them more aware of the mistakes.
Are there typos, etc. in Rule of Two? Yes, there are. Every novel has them. Are there an inordinate number in Rule of Two? Maybe... I haven't gone back and counted, then compared it with my other novels. But I believe the fact that I opened that door (coupled with a couple bad typos early in the novel) made people more inclined to belive the book had a greater number of errors than normal. (And I will note that several readers/reviewers haven't felt there was an abundance of errors.)
So, my advice to you as a reader who wants to enjoy the novel (should you choose to accept it): don't go looking for mistakes. You'll enjoy the book a lot more if you just let yourself get swept up in the characters and story. And if you're the kind of person who simply can't get around the odd typo or spelling error... well, I guess I can't help you there.
Point Number Two, or "I didn't think it would be so short!"
Huh - that title is something no guy ever wants to hear about his... book.
Some people have commented that Rule of Two doesn't feel "long enough" to be a hardcover. I understand the sentiment - if you're shelling out your hard earned cash, you want as much entertainment as you can get for your buck.
But I'm not going to pad my word count just to reach some arbitrary page number. I'll tell a story with a beginning, middle and end, but it's only going to be as long as it needs to be. A lot happens in Rule of Two, and I think readers get their money's worth.
Admittedly, part of the problem may be my style of writing. Some people have called my writing "simplistic" or even "amatuerish"; I prefer to think of it as "tight" and "efficient".
Newsflash - I'm not a literary genius. I don't spin wondrous lyrical lines that will forever live in the annals of literature. I'm out there to entertain people; the best thing I can do as a writer is make sure my prose never gets in the way. I don't want to bog the story down with unnecessary description, or overly self-indulgent essays woven into the fiction and disguised as the thoughts of my characters.
I describe what I feel is important to establishing the mood of a scene, or the thematic tone of a chapter. I'll probably never spend five pages describing the beauty of the old woods as my players walk through.
Some writers have the talent to pull this off. I lack that particular artistry. So my books are, for most of the audience, a "quick read". Personally, I think that's a good thing. If I sweep you up in the action, whisk you along and you get to the end and think - Wow, that was great! But I want *more*! - then I've done my job.
And, for what it's worth, Rule of Two is longer than Temple Hill, Throne of Bhaal and Mass Effect: Revelation.
It's also longer than Catcher in the Rye, To Kill a Mockingbird and even Stephen King's "The Gunslinger". Not that I think my rank works up with those kinds of classics - I'm just trying to make a point. Length does not necessarily equal quality.
Okay, that's enough verbal spew from me. Once again, thank you to everyone who's bought and read Rule of Two. And I hope everyone who enjoyed Path of Destruction decides to check out the sequel; I'm confident you'll find yourself swept up in the continuing adventures of Bane and his new apprentice.
Embrace the dark side.
Drew
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the fragrant wookiee The Dark Side Databank
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date Posted: Jan 12, 2008 2:41 AM
Hi Drew.
Just wanted to say that I thought the book was a great read.
The typos did occasionally catch my eye but, as you say, every novel has them. Anyone who judges a book purely on it's spelling and grammar is kind of missing the point of a story.
As for the length, I again agree with what you've said above. I'm someone who likes to plunge into a 900 page monster of a book, but every once in a while it's nice to read a book which isn't so (physically) weighty. Star Wars stories in particular work well as fast-paced adventures which don't become bogged down.
Besides, I don't think 'Rule of Two' (or 'Path of Destruction' for that matter) shied away from deeper issues and character introspection.
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the fragrant wookiee The Dark Side Databank
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date Posted: Jan 12, 2008 2:42 AM
Anyway, I've reviewed both of your Star Wars books here.
Whilst I'm here I may as well add that I loved 'Mass Effect' and plan on reading the novels sometime soon.
Take care and keep up the good work!
the fragrant wookiee
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Master Devwi Star Wars News & Opinions
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date Posted: Jan 12, 2008 3:34 AM
I loved the book. I only noticed a few typos (it didn't bother me at all) and I thought the length was perfect! A great novel! I would love to see another book in the series.
Also, I just finished playing Mass Effect, and all I can say is: wow. Amazing job on the game! I can't wait to read Mass Effect: Revelation (and Ascension, once it is released).
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eddie Obsessive Fanboy Eddie and his Timeline Chronicles
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date Posted: Jan 12, 2008 4:49 AM
Embrace the dark side, I will!!!! This was a great, great, great sequel to the first Darth Bane book, and incorporating the latter events of the comics and the short story by Kevin J. Anderson was done superbly!!!!
I, for one, am happy to read the 'further adventures' of Bane and his apprentice Zannah! I hope to see another book in this series... And, as a timeline freak, I loved the inclusion of Valorum, as well as the mention of the Ruusan reformations!!!!!!
A job well done, sir!!!!!
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rj_peters Memos from the Imperial Finance Department
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date Posted: Jan 12, 2008 6:31 AM
Shouldn't typos be the editors responsibility and not the author? Regardless, it seems a bit silly to get hung up on something like that. Diff'rent strokes, I guess.
I went back and noticed that RoT isn't much shorter than PoD. And that wouldn't even be an issue if it weren't for the whole hardback thing. And, again, I don't believe that's the author's decision. That's the publisher.
And Drew's writing style is perfect for Star Wars. "Tight and efficient" is an apt comparison indeed.
If only I had an X-box, I'd be all over Mass Effect. It sounds awesome.
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Smuggler Jedi Hokey Religions and A Good Blaster at My Side
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date Posted: Jan 12, 2008 7:49 AM
I loved it. I didn't catch any typos, but I wasn't looking for them either.
I enjoyed that the novel was a quick read. I felt that it blended story and action perfectly.
I agree with Eddie, I'd like to see more adventures of Bane and Zannah. I hope Drew gets to do that, if he wants to. I'd also like to see Drew's take on other Sith lords that are part of the Rule of Two lineage.
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jedilily1026 Years Matter Not (Gone Crazy...Be Back Soon)
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date Posted: Jan 12, 2008 9:07 AM
I haven't gotten it yet but will do soon. I loved PofD and I'm sure I'll love this one.
I'm not one for too much frilly writing. Getting to the point and making it exciting is what I like. You can't please all of the people all of the time...and who wants too anyway!!
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master sifo dum dum Jacen Solo post NJO
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date Posted: Jan 12, 2008 10:46 AM
Typo's - call me simplistic but I didn't spot one - I wasn't looking and I wouldn't have cared in the slightest if I'd seen them.
As to book length, it was as long as needed to be - you crammed so much story into the book with barely a word wasted. i've been through it twice since i got it on Xmas Eve and i've just started re-reading POD so that I can read them both in sequence.
I'll join the many many others who have asked the question and ask again? Any chance we'll be seeing a third and final Bane novel?
10 out of 10 on this book, loved it.
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vadersgirl33 vadersgirl_reflections
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date Posted: Jan 12, 2008 11:27 AM
I don't look for the mistakes in a book. I'm sure there are lots of them in every book written. Who cares??? I read books just to enjoy the story. If the book isn't interesting, I don't read it!! I want to get a copy of it, but will wait until I can afford it. I'm sure I'll love it as well as the first. I find your writing fantastic.
vadersgirl33
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Master Jedi Michael ANBU File 1262- Master Jedi Michael
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date Posted: Jan 12, 2008 7:34 PM
I like the book a lot actually. I don't really notice typos in books until someone mentions them, so I probably never would have noticed until I just read about them. I thought the book was an okay length as well. I like your writing style a lot as well. It's much better to read about the action going on then how the ground thier fighting on looks. Keep writing more about Bane, I really enjoy the books!
MTFBWY
Oh, and by the way, I just two days ago picked up Mass Effect: Revelations and have started reading. It's pretty good so far.
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jkthunder Seven Pieces
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date Posted: Jan 12, 2008 8:35 PM
I picked up RoT, but haven't had the chance to crack it yet. I enjoyed PoD immensely and can't wait.
About the length - Dark Lord, also a fabulous read, was also rather short (seemed to me), and being #12 on the NYT should be testimony to the quality over the quantity. Well, that and the fact that you hooked people with PoD. As far as writing style goes - I think your style is what people enjoy the most. Because of your background (congrats on Mass effect btw!), I feel like I'm playing a really good game when reading. I'm just not interested in overly intellectualized literature anyway. This is sci-fi!
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Corterville Yoda's House of Pancakes
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date Posted: Jan 12, 2008 11:46 PM
I don't want to bog the story down with unnecessary description, or overly self-indulgent essays woven into the fiction
I'm glad to hear that. I have noticed that my eyes have a tendency to skip over wordy descriptions and philosophy. Just tell me the story, please!
I'm glad to hear an author come out and say that! Most seem to be under the illusion that great books have to be chock full of allegory to be considered great.
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DarthBroccoli Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2008 1:03 PM
Just wanted to say that I love RoT, as well as PoD and Mass Effect: Revelation. Can't wait for the next ME novel, and I'm playing Mass Effect right now as well, and I'm loving it. I also wanted to say that I love your writing style, and I'm really glad that you don't describe everything in detail. Anyway, thanks for all the awesome books and games that you've been involved with.
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The Stooge Star Wars Joke-A-Day
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2008 3:51 PM
I just think it's awesomely cool that you take the time to address fan "complaints"... and that you don't take 'em too seriously!
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clone_commnader
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2008 4:23 PM
i just started reading path of destruction and i plan on getting the rule of two because the first one is very interesting and darth bane is the greatist sith
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DJ Maul: Got Feet? DJ Maul's Dancin' Cantina Party
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2008 6:59 PM
Drew,
I am deep into ROT and at this point I am totally enthralled.
have I noticed more typos than the average book? Um, yes...but isnt that what EDITORS are for...?
as for a "simplistic" style...personally I HATE whan authors takes 3 pages to decribe what could be summed up in ONE. Tolkien was one of the FEW exceptions LOL....but I like your "cut to the chase" style, makes the book fast paced and tough to put down....when I get bogged down in descriptive style or exposition I tend to zone out, but ROT moves along at a nice clip, without wasting time "padding" the story as you said.
great job and congrats on the sucess! 
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teh_dude So, at last we meet for the first time for the last time
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date Posted: Jan 14, 2008 6:00 AM
Just started reading the book this weekend & so far I'm impressed Drew. I'm barely into the story but already get the feeling I will be enjoying this as much as I did PoD. One thing that I was quite surprised with having not seen it in many other SW books was the graphic details you put in. From the other books I recall most deaths just say so-and-so was killed by the lightsaber attack (or some PG-rated account) whereas in this book you're describing tendons & lightsabers through skulls. This is very different yet seemingly necessary based on the character of Darth Bane.
Kudos on the success of the book and I look forward to finishing it off to write my own review & see just how well it stacks up to PoD (which I greatly enjoyed).
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comanderbly That's Impossible. Even for a Computer.
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date Posted: Jan 14, 2008 12:50 PM
The book definitely exceeded my expectations!
I felt it would have been nice if it was a little longer - but in the end the book was great. I hope you will get to do more books with Bane and Zannah.
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AdmiralD'orl001
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date Posted: Jan 14, 2008 11:48 PM
First, I want to say thank you for a wonderful book. It's amazing how good a story you were able to write in such a short time. That said, I must comment that I did not see an unusual number of typos in the book, and I would blame the editors for missing them, not you. My biggest problems were a few major discrepancies between PoD and RoT, which I'm sure WERE due to the rush in writing RoT.
The length of a book is never an issue to me as long as it is a good story. So far you have not failed on that front. On that note, I give you my support in wishing that you be able to continue the stories of Bane and Zannah, and hopefully expanding outward to tell the tales of all of the Sith Order of the Rule of Two.
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DJ Maul: Got Feet? DJ Maul's Dancin' Cantina Party
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date Posted: Jan 15, 2008 5:31 AM
I will chime in as well for a third novel; it seems wide open for it anyway.
I think you should be put in charge of ALL the Sith related stories, perhaps a series that takes us through Bane all the way up to Plageous & Palpatine! That would be awesome!
too much to ask for...? C'mon Drew, you can handle it! 
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comanderbly That's Impossible. Even for a Computer.
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date Posted: Jan 15, 2008 1:53 PM
I think you should be put in charge of ALL the Sith related stories, perhaps a series that takes us through Bane all the way up to Plageous & Palpatine! That would be awesome!
I will second Deej on that, in fact it would be interesting to see go outside the Sith plot lines as well.
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Jedi Master Mina Jedi blogging, go back to your drinks!
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date Posted: Jan 15, 2008 1:59 PM
Okay, that's enough verbal spew from me.
Hah, welcome to the 'spew' side of the Force.  Isn't it grand?
Pet peeve No. 1:
I hate those that complain about typos. Don't preach to the preacher. Get over it, read the book, enjoy it.
Advice well given:
Not long enough? Good Lord, if you blazed through the book in 30 seconds flat than that means it was good. No, GREAT!! Time matters not.
I have Darth Bane and have been kicked in the ### by my fellow bloggers on here to read it. But, alas, I've not had the time. I've been told it is GREAT!! And that you should be allowed to write ALL books in Star Wars. 
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Jedi Master Mina Jedi blogging, go back to your drinks!
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date Posted: Jan 15, 2008 2:03 PM
I think you should be put in charge of ALL the Sith related stories, perhaps a series that takes us through Bane all the way up to Plageous & Palpatine! That would be awesome!
Noooooooooooooo.
Because I've been told that your writing is 'exceptional', I would LOVE to see you write about the fab three. There are but a few that can grasp the Star Wars concept, except for the Master himself, and I've been told by those that have read your books that you fall within that small group.
Guess I should get off my arse and read your book, eh? The Sith are preventing me from doing it, I tells ya. 
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hansgirl3 Invoking the Squee
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date Posted: Jan 15, 2008 2:45 PM
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
No, no, no... THANK YOU!!!!!
The Bane books quickly have become my favorites of all the SW books and I don't usually go for the Sith kinda guys.
A third one would be outstanding!!! I also love the idea of you taking on the other Sith's up to/through Palps. That would be very cool indeed!
Thanks for writing another fantastic Bane book!!!!!
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jacenfan1
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date Posted: Jan 16, 2008 6:19 AM
I don't comment much on blogs but I had to comment on this one:
I LOVED RULE OF TWO!!!!
I got so worked up into the book that I was way into it within the first couple of chapters. I knew I would like reading about Bane and Zannah, but I was impressed by how much you made me care about the poor misguided Jedi in this story too. I really thought I would just rush through the Jedi chapters to read more about Zannah's training but alas you had me interested in their storys as well.
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jacenfan1
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date Posted: Jan 16, 2008 6:19 AM
It was a great read and I didn't catch any mistakes but I never do. I don't even care for continuity mistakes actually. I figure it's a big (FICTIONAL - key word) universe and who cares if a few things don't line up as long as it's a great story. The "errors" (as some will call them) in POD didn't bother me in the least and I didn't see any in this book.
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jacenfan1
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date Posted: Jan 16, 2008 6:20 AM
Anyway, now I am so stoked to read the next line of the sith novel. There has to be more because I am already dying to get more of Zannah's story and I want to see what happens on that fateful day when she challenges him for the title of dark lord of the sith. We have to get to that point at the very least. And I would add my vote to the others that say you should just be hired on to write the books that chronicle the line of the sith from Darth Bane and Darth Zannah through Darth Sidious and Darth Vader. There could be no other that would do it justice in my opinion.
P.S. I am playing Mass Effect and LOVING it as well.
Keep writing, you are the best pure story teller I have seen or read in a long time.
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stoner jedi kenobi Burn Run Discussions
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date Posted: Feb 22, 2008 7:13 PM
I enjoyed the book very much...I still enjoyed the first Darth Bane novel, but this one had some good plots and action. I wouldn't worry about typos, I'm also a Harry Potter fan and there is always typos in that and that is HUGE as we all know. My only real complaint is that I wished we got a little more detail and action when Farfalla and the jedi caught up with Bane. Regardless, that was one cool scene.
I do hope that you get to continue the story of the sith all the way up to Sidious and Dooku, because that is an endless supply of stories and the possibility for great and interesting new characters!
p.s. try to convince bioware or lucasarts or whomever that they should let you write KOTOR III.
take it easy and mtfbwy
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_lordmaul Lord Maul - The EU Dark Lord
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date Posted: Mar 09, 2008 11:21 AM
Just finished the book. Great story. I mean, GREAT story! It has a lot of action and a very big timeline: although it jumps 10 years, everything's there. And that duel in Tython was amazing! Great action that I'd love to see in a Star Wars movie. Yes it was and felt like Star Wars!
There was just this little thing. In PoD we really dive into Bane's head and get to feel the hate he felt, the rage he used. In PoD we were in the Dark Side. In my opinion this didn't happen in RoT. In RoT I only saw Bane as a selfish monster and not as the 'Sith'ari he was in PoD. (continues...)
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_lordmaul Lord Maul - The EU Dark Lord
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date Posted: Mar 09, 2008 11:22 AM
In this book the characters I loved the most were the Jedi, mainly Johun. All those scenes in Coruscant were amazing! And it really hurt when Farfalla died... So you made us feel sorry for the Jedi, and that's a great thing.
About the whole timeline thing: Great great story in Ruusan and Dxun. And that memorial monument on Ruusan they were building, it's the Valley of the Jedi, right?
I'm waiting... No. I'm dying for a sequel!!
_lordmaul,
from FanForce Portugal.
Ps: great interview on the FFPT blog 
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