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I'm A Blogger -- Like My Father Before Me
date posted: May 01, 2008 5:43 PM
Anakin's Destiny
So Anakin fulfills the prophecy that he will bring balance to the force -- right?

But what defines balance?

You know that the Sith just keep coming back even after Palpatine is killed. How is that bringing balance to the Force?

My theory is that he did, but not the way the Jedi expected. Like all prophecies, fulfillment is not always what one side expects it to be. If there were so many Jedi (thousands) and only 2 Sith, then the Force was unbalanced! So, when bad old Palpatine turned Ani to the dark side and almost all of the Jedi are killed, then the force (light and dark side) would end up more balanced!

Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps I'm just rambling...:D All I can say is that it's good to be back!

Please comment! I need to hear your opinion on this one.

MTFBWYA!

MissPadme
Miss Padme's Naboo Love Nest
date Posted: May 01, 2008 7:06 PM
They keep bringing the Sith back in the Expanded Universe. It's not George Lucas's story. It doesn't count.
Jedi Temple Acolyte
Idealistic Crusade
date Posted: May 01, 2008 7:12 PM
So, when bad old Palpatine turned Ani to the dark side and almost all of the Jedi are killed, then the force (light and dark side) would end up more balanced!

So it would seem (to quote Commodore Norrington). :) But you still have to consider all the evil that the Empire perpetrated against the galaxy. The destruction of Alderaan tipped the scale, if nothing else. Personally, I don't accept the EU and I don't think George does either. I think the death of Palpatine brought the Force into balance.. and they all lived happily ever after. That's my dream and I'm sticking to it. ;)
jedimasterpaul12
I'm A Blogger -- Like My Father Before Me
date Posted: May 01, 2008 8:06 PM
They keep bringing the Sith back in the Expanded Universe. It's not George Lucas's story. It doesn't count.

True. Sad for an EU fan like me, but still true.
Cousin Itt
You don't know how to fix the hyperdrive...!
date Posted: May 02, 2008 5:28 AM
I agree - I think balance was brought about by most of the Jedi being killed off - so the prophesy was definatelt fulfilled by a method not expected by the jedi. It left two sith (Vader and Palpy) and two Jedi (Yoda and Obi-Wan) - there...perfectly balanced.

When palpy and Vader kick the bucket the force is thrown into imbalance again, hence sith turning up again in EU whether it counts or not...there will always be good and evil.
  Master Deireanach
date Posted: May 02, 2008 7:51 AM
The Jedi had become stagnant, rigid and too set in their ways. They had forgotten compassion and had strayed from the living force. Quigon knew this and he also knew that love was the key to immortality. The balance they were talking about was the rebuilding of the order which in order for that to happen had to be torn down. Only after Anakin's turn and Yoda's defeat at the hands of Sidious did they realize the error of their ways. I remember reading somewhere, from Lucas himself, that's what the prophecy really was and the Jedi had misread it.
ewanandhaydenfan5
I Have You Now!
date Posted: May 02, 2008 10:47 AM
I heard GL say in an interview that the presence of Sith (evil) unbalanced the Force. When Anakin killed Vader and Palps, the Force was put back into balance because they were the last of the Sith (he wasn't accounting for the EU).
  Darth_Poole
date Posted: May 02, 2008 4:55 PM
when bad old Palpatine turned Ani to the dark side and almost all of the Jedi are killed, then the force (light and dark side) would end up more balanced

i have to agree with this, it makes a lot of sense.
Hundreds of jedi and only two sith cant really be called balanced.
  Go_Secret_Apprentice
date Posted: May 03, 2008 4:12 PM
2 Sith vs 200 jedi, that is not balanced and the sith can never be extinct becouse it is a practice, it can not become extinct like some alien speces.(sorry for my spelling)That is like saying Kung Fu becomeing extinct.
  SmartJedi321
date Posted: May 04, 2008 9:25 AM
the sith can never be extinct
Depends on how you look at extincit it could mean completly gone or it could mean gone for a peroid of time
  Fish1941
date Posted: May 05, 2008 1:57 PM
I really don't see how getting rid of the Sith permanently is going to bring balance. Personally, I never understood why the Jedi and the Sith seemed bent upon destroying one another. Every time they try, they always fail. It seems as if neither side is aware that they are two halves of one coin. Perhaps they need to co-exist to keep each other in check.
Skywalker's Fury
If nobody hears a tree fall in the forest - does it make a sound?
date Posted: May 06, 2008 12:32 AM
Like all prophecies, fulfillment is not always what one side expects it to be.
Too true.
It left two sith (Vader and Palpy) and two Jedi (Yoda and Obi-Wan) - there...perfectly balanced.
Not quite - uh - true. . . The Force Unleashed (which is deemed cannon by The Big Man) is all about the surviving Jedi who need to be wiped out. Plus, the apprentice makes that three Sith.:)

And I'm not sure I agree with those of you who discard the EU. . . GL is aware of it, and he hasn't said anything against its legitimacy.
Skywalker's Fury
If nobody hears a tree fall in the forest - does it make a sound?
date Posted: May 06, 2008 12:34 AM
In fact I remember reading that "The Force Unleashed" as well as the upcoming TV shows not only connect the movies, but also keep in line with the EU cannon stuff. Not everything in EU is real, but there is a definite cannon line. . .

Sorry you guys. . . I'm an EU junkie!! I am duty bound to defend it:D

Every time they try, they always fail.
:^O That's true!!!! I never actually realized that!!
  shoppingMaul61
date Posted: May 06, 2008 5:38 AM
I agree with Fish1941. To put it simply good requires evil in order to have a context, otherwise there is no such thing as 'good' since 'good' is obviously a human construct based on it's relative opposite.
With this in mind I like to think that the galaxy's real 'hope' in the aftermath was the wild-card 'other' Leia Organa. Leia was the perfect balance of Jedi genetics with pragmatic and compassionate humanism. Obviously turning highly midi-chlorianed kids into robed dogmatists is too problematic (see Anakin, Dooku, Maul, Luke etc). Leia could use her strength and maturity to usher in a new era of practical, grounded force-sensitivity.
  shoppingMaul61
date Posted: May 06, 2008 5:46 AM
cont'd..So Leia is in fact the outcome of the prophecy...a new kind of hybrid Jedi, loaded with power but free of the dogma of the past and free of the wildly irrational and emotive Skywalker anger/passion that plagued and warped her father and brother. If Anakin's immaculate conception was truly orchestrated by Palpatine then Leia is the outcome - a Sith/Jedi alloy.
This is why Vader and Palpatine never sensed her, even as they could sense Luke across the light years. She was the first of the new breed. The balance.
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