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"The Force will change you. It will transform you...." - Darth Revan
So today I woke up and wondered downstairs to make some coffee to stimulate my day ahead (in this instance to keep me awake, whilst i idolly lounge around the house). I sat down gruffly in the dining room and pulled out a copy of one of the Dark horse graphic novels (which i highly recommend) to which i began reading over a scene with Dooku and Palpatine and It came to me of both of the Sith's appearances, which then escalated to thinking back of other Sith lords physical appearances throughout the saga, it got me thinking on the consequences the dark side brought to a Sith's appearance and why not all were affected by its physical corruption.
However, why is it that the dark side brings these inevitable features. Endlesly we are faced with villans all who share the unique similarity of having some strange disfigurement or physical set back. To name a few: Dr. Evil from Austin Powers, The Joker from Batman and Voldemort from Harry Potter. In my opinion Dooku potrays a much more unconvincing role than any of the villans I have listed, and funnily enough I feel that the corruptive disfigurments of the dark side or personal injury from mad experiements complete the role of any dark villain. Still why should they, contradictive of me of course, but im not really convinced a bad guy is all that bad unless they have an unmistakably unique distinction about their appearance. Sure any bad guy can inherit the evil insane laugh, or be wickedly clever or put across a silent and ruthless character to them, but its all for nothing without the physical marks to show. However moving on ...
Of course immense captivation into the dark side in most ways must bring its tolls. Great power always seems to have a catch to it. In this instance, the mental and physical corruptiveness was brought on through deeper fascination into the malicious power the dark side offered
Which brings me onto the subject of the Blog. Dooku a former Jedi, had descended into the darkness roughly around the events after the Battle of Naboo and from there on, until we see him in AOTC, ten years after his fall and we can obviously see the raw power he has achieved through Darth Sidious. Proof from wookiepedia referenced from canon dark horse comics, describes how dooku fully immerses himself in the darkside, embracing himself dark holocrons. yet through all this how come his physical appearance hadnt notably changed the slightest.?
The most notable, varients the body would face were
Eye Pigmentation were affects by the dark side. In all honesty im unsure why such a thing happened. Perhaps Lucas used it as a tool in effects to portray the evil which was surging through the character as his hate and fury radiated like a ball of flames in his eyes. A Cliché effect used but none theless highly effective. Some common examples were Anakin after the slaughter of the Seperatist council upon mustafar, Sidious and from the KOTOR series, Kreia.
Disfigurement was another that was commonly affected upon the Sith. for instance Sidious of course the lightning in all cases turned him into the nightmarish figure he is in the OT, but still it shows the corruptive consequence of raw dark side power.
Yet conclusively, we gain no hint into why Dooku experienced none of these affects. Perhaps you have some answers into how he and others prevented themselves from bending into the power of the darkside and gaining a horrific new appearance but still it strikes me, maybe it does you to, but can any villain be effectivly played if they dont attribute, grusomely disgusting features.
MD (Doc) out
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Reference to previous Blog: The Power of Love
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Green Am I Mudhole? Slimy?! My blog this is!
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date Posted: Mar 30, 2008 6:34 PM
Very interesting post, Mechu-Deru. Something to think about it how Palpatine was able to hide his evil features until that fateful duel with Windu. He looked like a normal, nice guy before that crazy event. Maybe Dooku is very good at that or something. But EU aside, I never really bought that Dooku immersed himself in the Dark Side. He seemed... almost reasonable. Almost as if he truly thought what he was doing was right. But that's probably just the whole silver tongue of Saruman thing going on.
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DJ Maul: Got Feet? DJ Maul's Dancin' Cantina Party
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date Posted: Mar 30, 2008 8:07 PM
what I think is; both Dooku and Palpatine, while Dark Side users, rarely actually USED large amounts of Dark Side energy in their dealings....most of Palpatines dealings in The Force were far more subtle than mere physical attacks. It wasnt until his confrontation with Mace & The Jedi that he actually needed to use PHYSICAL manifestations of his power.
Same, it seems, with Dooku. His power delt far more in scheming and behind the scenes influence than actual hand to hand combat; with several notable exceptions of course. So the corrupting powers of long term Darkside use hadnt really taken effect on him as it would say Darth Maul or Anakin as he became Vader.
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Captain Kenobi "Grenade! Grenade!"
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date Posted: Mar 30, 2008 8:32 PM
Great post, Mechu.
Perhaps Dooku was able to control the effects the Dark side had on him, since he knew he couldn't look like a strange, twisted, figure if he was to be the reasonable, diplomatic side of the Sepratists. That's the best I can figure.
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Master Ki-Aaron-Mundi I was a Teenage Jedi
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date Posted: Mar 31, 2008 12:22 AM
funnily enough I feel that the corruptive disfigurments of the dark side or personal injury from mad experiements complete the role of any dark villain
David Brin declared in Star Wars on Trail that one of the lessons of the saga is that "Evil people are ugly."
Perhaps Dooku was able to control the effects the Dark side had on him, since he knew he couldn't look like a strange, twisted, figure if he was to be the reasonable, diplomatic side of the Sepratists. That's the best I can figure
Palpatine certainly had the same issue up until ROTS and the formation of the Empire.
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usetheforce19 MasterMonkey13
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date Posted: Mar 31, 2008 5:34 AM
MD (Doc) out
Yes, embrace your new nickname, it gives you power. Unlimited Power!
Very good point. It seems that all Sith except Dooku had severe physical distortion. Perhaps Dooku didn't dive so deep into the dark side of the Force, but rather he seemed to focus more on political deception and lightsaber combat. He wasn't quite as Sithy as the others, but still he was evil enough to be a Sith.
I think that Captain Kenobi also brings up a very good point.
MTFBWY! God bless! (I'm conserving my brain cells for my 100th blog post today)
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shoppingMaul61
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date Posted: Mar 31, 2008 5:53 AM
I was actually just a little disappointed that Palpatine got the full 'evil face' treatment in ROTS. During AOTC it seemed apparent that George was ageing him 'gracefully' (he was looking rough in that movie!). In the scheme of the 6 films it would've been cool if the first viewing of the Emperor as we know and love him could've been in ROTJ, as if the 20 intervening years had really taken an evil toll. But I guess Lucas wanted to rush the inevitable.
Not complaining though - ROTS was awesome!
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Darth_Hiram A Journey into The Force
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date Posted: Mar 31, 2008 5:58 AM
Good blog. I think Dooku became a powerful Dark Jedi, but I don't think he was as completely enmeshed in the Darkside as Sidious, or even Vader. He was tempted by Sidious with power and glory but I don't think he really even believed he was completely and totally a Sith, despite what he might say.
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Mechu-Deru The Dark Side of the Blogs
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date Posted: Mar 31, 2008 8:26 AM
Yes, embrace your new nickname, it gives you power. Unlimited Power!
I still fail to see where JP got this from :'(
He wasn't quite as Sithy as the others, but still he was evil enough to be a Sith
Unlike the others, Dooku was a former Jedi, highly spoken of by the elders of the Jedi, not to mention his status as Count upon Serenno. So I suppose this gave him some level of integrety and superbfluence and vanity as a Sith. Who didnt wear the typical dark robes or wear a hood to shroud his face.
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Mechu-Deru The Dark Side of the Blogs
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date Posted: Mar 31, 2008 8:27 AM
b]I was actually just a little disappointed that Palpatine got the full 'evil face' treatment in ROTS.
I suppose Lucas needed to show how Palpatine became who he was, for a lead up to his appearances in the EU and ROTJ. Plus it provided an awesome scene to depict the rise of the Sith and death of the jedi
Good blog. I think Dooku became a powerful Dark Jedi, but I don't think he was as completely enmeshed in the Darkside as Sidious, or even Vader.
Good point. Perhaps even, Sidious was holding back Dooku, as he was aware dooku was merely a puppet to bring forth the corruption of anakin and to merely use his political influence as "Count" to fund the armies and bring planets into their influence
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usetheforce19 MasterMonkey13
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date Posted: Mar 31, 2008 8:43 AM
I still fail to see where JP got this from :'(
Okay, I'll explain it. First of all, Mechu-Deru is "MD" abbreviated. So, "MD" is not only an abbreviation for your new blog name, but it is also an abbreviation for Doctor of Medicine. It is an academic degree. Note that the term MD is different between Americans and the British. (or so it says in the Wikipedia article) Hope this helps.
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Mechu-Deru The Dark Side of the Blogs
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date Posted: Mar 31, 2008 9:21 AM
Hope this helps.
Pshht an American Abbreiviation. Should've known
Cheers
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Master Deireanach
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date Posted: Apr 01, 2008 8:06 AM
Dooku never fully gave himself over to the darkside, he may have immersed himself in the teachings but he was too noble to be truly corrupted like many other Sith. Sidious never intended to have him be his true apprentice, he used him as a tool to get what he needed and when he had out lived his usefulness he had Anakin kill him. I don't think Sidious really taught him much because of that and thus no physical corruption
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Grendelspyce
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date Posted: Apr 01, 2008 9:08 AM
Even a cursory evaluation of canon demonstrates without a doubt that Dooku did fully immerse himself in the dark side; the title of Dark Lord of the Sith was not given out like candy, guys!
As an earlier poster mentioned, Dooku was the "face" of the Separatists and need to appear handsome and charming. While I was a little disappointed when I didn't see any ravages of the dark side on his face during ROTS, I have reconciled that he was using a dark side power to mask his true appearance. If we could have seen an old "Universal monsters" style glimpse of Dooku's severed head, I imagine it would have transformed into a more gnarled and ugly version of Christopher Lee's distinguished features.
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Fish1941
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date Posted: Apr 01, 2008 1:34 PM
Why? Why should it be necessary for a villain to have a physical disfigurement in order project his or her inner evil? Shouldn't actions alone inform us on how evil or dark these characters are? If there is one aspect of the LOTR saga that really annoyed me was that most or all of the evil characters were either ugly or physically deformed. This struck me as so unecessary.
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The Stooge Star Wars Joke-A-Day
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date Posted: Apr 01, 2008 4:18 PM
Very good question -- of course, Anakin didn't have yellow eyes for the entire time he was DV... so maybe there's something which triggers it, which maybe Dooku knew how to control?
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Mechu-Deru The Dark Side of the Blogs
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date Posted: Apr 01, 2008 5:13 PM
I don't think Sidious really taught him much because of that and thus no physical corruption
I see where your coming with that good point
Even a cursory evaluation of canon demonstrates without a doubt that Dooku did fully immerse himself in the dark side; the title of Dark Lord of the Sith was not given out like candy, guys!
Could it not of been given to satisfy Dooku, whilst Sidious focused on the war and the upcoming events. We already know Dooku was incredibly strong in the force as a Jedi?
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Mechu-Deru The Dark Side of the Blogs
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date Posted: Apr 01, 2008 5:15 PM
Why? Why should it be necessary for a villain to have a physical disfigurement in order project his or her inner evil?
During the time of the viewing, personality would play a huge part in our judgment of how evil he/she/it is. But If Vader wasnt burnt and placed in that suit, would he still be remembered as the villain he was?
Very good question -- of course, Anakin didn't have yellow eyes for the entire time he was DV... so maybe there's something which triggers it, which maybe Dooku knew how to control?
Good idea, it might of been a sign of sheer vergence in the force, when hate and emotions were raging inside someone. Oh and welcome back from fishing 
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Medosco
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date Posted: Apr 01, 2008 7:52 PM
In response to Grendelspyce, we do get a fairly good view of Dooku's severed head bouncing and rolling away before his body falls in front of it, if you stop at about 14:27 in the movie, and Christopher Lee's distinguished CG head really doesn't look too different at all.
But I dunno, maybe that's too soon after the beheading and death for any visible changes to be noticed. You never know. (But I doubt it.  )
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Fish1941
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date Posted: Apr 03, 2008 10:27 AM
During the time of the viewing, personality would play a huge part in our judgment of how evil he/she/it is. But If Vader wasnt burnt and placed in that suit, would he still be remembered as the villain he was?
Is that how you defined Vader? By the suit? I defined him by his actions . . and the media propaganda machine. Vader was scarier before he donned the suit.
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Fish1941
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date Posted: Apr 03, 2008 10:28 AM
I just find it so shallow that a villainous character has to be more defined by his or her looks, instead of actions.
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