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Some One get this big walking carpet out of my way
date posted: May 09, 2008 7:47 PM  |  updated: May 09, 2008 8:52 PM
Have you ever wondered why you are where you are in life?
You must come with me to Allderan and learn the ways of the Force if you are to become a Jedi like your Father..............



Infamus words spoken to Luke by Obi-Wan.

My sister was welcomed into the Baptist Church last weekend.
Now, we were raised Catholic. Why would my sister become a Baptist?
Little Miss Padme. She wants her raised in a one religion house hold.

The minister said something during his serman that made me think.
Why are you sitting in this church? Is it because God wants you hear or
because you want to be hear? Mabey it's both.

IMO - God guieds us to the church/temple/or whatever that he know we will flurish in and become a better person for having practiced that religion.

Why then did Luke succeed in the teachings of the Force where some say Anakin failed? Was the Force misguieded in it's choosing Anakin to be created? No. Anakin had the wrong teacher. I know we can argue this point until we are blue in the face. :) Obi-Wan was a very good Jedi. I just don't think he was ready to be a teacher when he took Anakin under his wing.

How many time have you been to your preacher and left frustrated.
You go to a different preacher in the same church and you are left more confident in your teachings.

Anakin needed a different teacher. The fact that Anakin knew of a life outside the temple is the biggest reason why. Obi-Wan knew of books,
archives and meditation. He knew not of a mother's love. Friends to get into trouble with. Friends to help you just have a good time.

Would things have been different for Anakin with a different teacher?
Mabey. Mabey not. It's a never ending discussion.

Now, by the time Obi-Wan was able to start teaching Luke, he was a more seasoned teacher. He had spent 19 years watching Luke. Watching him grow into the youngman we see in A New Hope. Obi-Wan himself had learned from the hard lessons in life to be the teacher Luke needed to
become the Jedi we all know and love.

You are who you are because God guides you to the right teacher's in life to become the best you can be.

The force sent Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan to find Anakin. Obi-Wan was left to to teach Anakin. The force was not wrong to lead these two together.
They complemented eachother very well. They were to much like brothers to be teacher and student.

The force sent Luke to Obi-Wan. Learn the ways of the Force. Become a Jedi like your father. Luke thaught Obi-Wan was " off his rocker."
How can I do that? I don't know the first thing about the Force or my father.
Let me guide you to the ways of the Force. You will learn also from Yoda. The Jedi Master whom instructed me.
Little did Luke know the incredable jurney he would set out on the day he me Obi-Wan Kenobi. Not just Old Ben the guy whom lives out behond the dune see.



btw -- My sister said to tell everyone thank you for the warm thaughts during her time of tragety. She is doing very well. Little Miss Padme keeps her very busy. Little Padme is quite the little toddler. Into everything!!!!!!!

Your thaughts are welcome if they are constructive. keep it clean.
Leia;)

  FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: May 10, 2008 8:19 AM
That is an interesting thought. I know what you mean. I have been to two different ministers in the same faith and been enlightened by one and "frustrated" (your word, and probably the best) by another. Same God, same church, same faith, but two different results. This means that we must rely most on God Himself, to direct us to where He wants us to be.

Real life, like the "Star Wars" films, isn't always simple. If Anakin had been a little older maybe he would have had some input in who would teach him, but being so young he had to have the teacher that Qui-Gon willed to him. I think Obi-Wan was too young to teach someone as "old" as Anakin, who had a past he really didn't understand.
Master Ki-Aaron-Mundi
I was a Teenage Jedi
date Posted: May 10, 2008 11:08 AM
It is interesting how so much of the way we feel about certain things relies on people. While you might want to define a religion by its beliefs, it so often comes back to the ministers you know preaching it and the members you see practicing it.

And for Anakin, his connection to the Jedi and the Force should not have hinged on who his teacher was; it should have transcended that. But in the end, Obi-Wan did play an important role.

Nice blog.
leia19886
Some One get this big walking carpet out of my way
date Posted: May 10, 2008 5:02 PM
Anakin's connection to the Jedi and the Force should not have hinged on who his teacher was. It should have transended that.

Your right, it should have. I think the Jedi just did not know what to do with Anakin.
They were apprensive of what he would do if left to explore his full connection with the force. Yet they did not know how to praise his accomplishments with out him feeling like he was equal or superior to the council.

Obi-Wan was to young to teach someone as "old" as Anakin.
Interesting. Obi-Wan was just growing into his Jedi shoes what Qui-Gon died.
He was left to carry out his teacher's wishes and did so to the best of his ability.
JawaJoey
Return of the Jawa
date Posted: May 10, 2008 5:23 PM
I never really thought of it before, but I think you're right about Obi-Wan. He was a great Jedi, and a great student, but he really wasn't a very good teacher. Not bad or anything, you can't be as great a guy as Obi-Wan without the charisma, knowledge, and understanding to be a decent teacher, but really, he could have done a lot better.

Which is ironic, because he was the responsible for training the two most important Jedi of his lifetime.

To make things worse, Anakin was a difficult student. But Luke, he was a great student, the kind who needed little instruction. He followed the force and was wiser than teachers because of it.
rappingrancor
Rappingrancor's Pit -- And No, I Don't Mean My Room!
date Posted: May 11, 2008 10:06 AM
Anakin called Obi-Wan the father he never had. He considered Obi-Wan his teacher, yes, but did he consider him his father/brother over all that? In my experience, parents want to know everything about their child, think they know everything about their child. However, Obi-Wan had lived his childhood in the Temple. He never really understood until he was older what Anakin knew when he joined the Jedi. Obi-Wan thought that he was the wise, all-knowing teacher (though he admitted seeking Qui-Gon's wisdom in teaching) that Anakin needed. In my opinion.

Good blog.

Wherever the Force may guide you, God will bless you.

RR out.
rappingrancor
Rappingrancor's Pit -- And No, I Don't Mean My Room!
date Posted: May 11, 2008 10:08 AM
Anakin called Obi-Wan the father he never had. He considered Obi-Wan his teacher, yes, but did he consider him his father/brother over all that? In my experience, parents want to know everything about their child, think they know everything about their child. However, Obi-Wan had lived his childhood in the Temple. He never really understood until he was older what Anakin knew when he joined the Jedi. Obi-Wan thought that he was the wise, all-knowing teacher (though he admitted seeking Qui-Gon's wisdom in teaching) that Anakin needed. In my opinion.

Good blog.

Wherever the Force may guide you, God will bless you.

RR out.
leia19886
Some One get this big walking carpet out of my way
date Posted: May 11, 2008 12:29 PM
He never really understood until he was older what Anakin knew when he joined the Jedi.

IMO -- Obi-Wan spent so much time conforming to the ideas of a Jedi, he never really
understood what it ment to feel until he was faced with the task of teaching Luke.

GalacticBabe
I Have a Bad Feeling About This!
date Posted: May 12, 2008 6:32 PM
Very good thoughts!

Like you said, it's a never ending discussion on whether or not Anakin would have turned out different with a different teacher. We know a different teacher would change the whole last half of the Saga, but it's fun to think about what might have been.

Had Qui-Gon been Anakin's teacher, would he still have gone behind everyone's backs to be with Padmé? How would that have turned out? Would she still have had the twins? There are all kind of what ifs. And sometimes we can only see these what ifs in our dreams.

I know what you mean about wondering why you are where you are in life. Qui-Gon said, nothing happens by accident. Like all of us gathered here on this site. it was meant to be!:x
leia19886
Some One get this big walking carpet out of my way
date Posted: May 12, 2008 6:43 PM
Had Qui-Gon been Anakin's teacher, would he still have gon behind everyone's backs to be with Padme?
I think he would have told Qui-Gon simple because Qui-Gon understood where Anakin
was comming from. Look at all the stuff Qui-Gon did and told later.

Would she still have had the twins?
I think so. The Skywalker story was a fun one for GL to tell. He just would have told it different.
There are all kind of what ifs. Yes! That is what makes Star Wars so much fun!
DJ Maul: Got Feet?
DJ Maul's Dancin' Cantina Party
date Posted: May 14, 2008 5:57 AM
me & religion dont get along well so I wont go there for fear of offending my friends of faith, but as far as the GFFA aspects, you raise some interesting points.

Obi Wan blamed himself for Anakins fall; however I dont feel it was his fault. Palpatine exerted a LOT of influence on Anakin and Anakin himself simply had a LOT of weaknesses in himself that hey couldnt let go.

I think the pivotal mistake the Jedi made was their mistrust and arrogance: A prime example is when Mace leaves Anakin behind when going to arrest Palpatine. if he had TRUSTED Anakin and allowed "The Chosen One" to come with them, things may have played differently. Instead Mace refused Anakins help and in doing so increased Anakins mistrust in the Jedi as well.

Jade Sabre777
A luminous being, I am...
date Posted: May 15, 2008 12:36 PM
This means that we must rely most on God Himself, to direct us to where He wants us to be.
I agree, FAN4YRS.

And for Anakin, his connection to the Jedi and the Force should not have hinged on who his teacher was; it should have transcended that.
Absolutely - just like people should not blame their pastors for not helping them when, in actuality, they are unwilling to face their own problems. (Sorry - pet peeve of mine!) Leia, while I agree that perhaps Qui-Gon would have been a better teacher for Anakin, I also agree with Ki-Aaron. Anakin needed to take responsibility for himself.
Jade Sabre777
A luminous being, I am...
date Posted: May 15, 2008 12:43 PM
The fact that Anakin knew of a life outside the temple is the biggest reason why.
That's a good point!

They complemented eachother very well. They were to much like brothers to be teacher and student
I can see this as well.

And Obi-Wan was just so young...... He did the best he could, but a little more experience probably would have helped a lot.

Nice blog!
leia19886
Some One get this big walking carpet out of my way
date Posted: May 15, 2008 7:02 PM
People need to face their own problems --- yes they do -- it's hard to look yourself in the mirror and admit your mistakes in life.

Obi-Wan was too young --- Yoda tried to tell him ---

Nice blog! Thanks!!
JediMelindaWolf
Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
date Posted: May 22, 2008 10:12 AM
And, as they say, it isn't the destination . . . it's the journey. I'm in full agreement with this the older I get.


Nice blog, leia!


MTFBWY :)
leia19886
Some One get this big walking carpet out of my way
date Posted: May 22, 2008 8:28 PM
And, as they say, it isn't the destination.... it's the journey.

I'll second that notion.

good to see you :)
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