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 | The Birth of Anakin Skywalker -Revealed |
 Tonight I'm going to hit on another topic I have seen discussed many times in these blogs: the mystery of Anakin's birth. As you all probably know by now, I try to focus my blog entries on taking Star Wars mysteries and combining them with the few facts we have to create the most plausible theory possible. Here we go again!
There have been a lot of blogs about Palpatine and his plans lately, so let's begin tonight with that theory:
Palpatine created Anakin.
He created a plan to take over the galaxy that took a multitude of years, so it seems to me that it is plausible for him to have planned something like this. Of course, that would mean that not only was Plageuis his master, but that he did, in fact, learn the secrets of life. In addition to this, he would have had to have enough foresight to see that the Jedi would have trouble with the Hyperdrive core while leaving Naboo, and that they would go to Watto's particular shop to find what they needed. Then, he would have had to go through all the trouble of creating a boy and leaving him there to be found by the Jedi in hopes that he could turn the boy to the darkside and find a way to easily destroy his own current apprentice. Hmm... sounds like a few too many stretches for me.
If Palpatine could see far enough into the future to create a boy and know how he would turn out over fifteen years later, he probably could have seen his death coming at Luke's hand and prevented it. He could also have prevented Anakin's extreme injuries on Mustafar. So in the end, this theory seems a little ridiculous to me. It's too many stretches and too many things we simply have never seen Palpatine do.
I do not believe that Palpatine could have possibly created Anakin.
So let's move back a generation to our next theory:
Plageuis created Anakin.
Not much is known about Plageuis, so here we truly get into some deep speculation. As with Palpatine above, I do not believe that it would be possible for Plageuis to have seen far enough into the future to purposefully set up the Jedi's fall through his apprentice. However, in most of the theories I've read about this, Plageuis has learned to create life and is thus trying to create the ultimate Force user with no specific goal in mind. He simply is trying to make a being that could be the ulitmate Sith Lord. This is much more in the realm of possibility if Palpatine told Anakin the truth about Plageuis discovering the secret of life itself.
So let's say Plageuis picked various subjects to try his experiments on, slowly working towards the goal of creating a being with a sky high midichlorian count. It isn't really that much of a stretch for him to have picked a slave for one experiment simply because he could have paid to use one without many people finding out or objecting. So he uses the force to impregnate Shmi and erase any memory she has of it. Then he leaves, keeping a watch on his experiment from a distance until Palpatine kills him in the rightful order of the Sith. Maybe Palpatine was his ultimate creation. Who knows? But this theory seems plausible to me as I haven't found any way to negate it except that Lucas seems to have intended the force itself to be a spiritual sort of thing and given it sole power over life and death. Thus, no one could achieve this power.
Other than that though, this theory seems sound. So I'm going to call this one possible.
Plageuis could have created Anakin.
And once again one of my entries is getting long just as I've reached the halfway point, so I'm going to have to wrap it up for tonight. I'll be back tomorrow with the second half of this entry, "The True Birth of Anakin Skywalker" in which I'll address the commonly accepted theory that he was created by the will of the force, and the much more obscure theory that perhaps Shmi simply lied for the good of her son. In the end, we'll decide on the most likely method in which our chosen one was born!
See you tomorrow night!
"The True Birth of Anakin Skywalker" is now online! Check it out here!
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Darth Vader Meditation Chamber
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 12:51 AM
Nicely put. I agree that Palpatine could have never created Anakin. On the other side, PLagueis? Plausible? Maybe. At this point anything is possible really. For one, I don't think any of them had to do anything with it. But it may help if at least we knew when did Plaguies die. If it was, say 60 years BBY, well then we'd be sure that he had nothing to do with it.
From conception, to TPM we could say 10 years pass(from birth to TPM 9 years). So If it was true that Plagueis indeed had something to do witht it, he should have been alive by 42 BBY.
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Darth Vader Meditation Chamber
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 12:51 AM
contd...
At this point we dont know anything about him. At least I don't know for how long was Darth Maul Sidious' apprentice before TPM, but at least 10 years sounds about right. Maybe some EU book talks about this, but I have no idea.
So, as speculation and with the points you mention, yes it's plausible. Do I think he's Anakin daddy? no. At least not yet until we know something more about him.
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Good Blog!
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Sith_Lord_Duji
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 6:01 AM
Someone told me that before. Plagus wanted the prophecy of the strongest Jedi ever to come true but instead in Sith hands. Palpatine killed Plagus (and took his lightsaber as a spare ) and followed the same plan.
IT is even hinted when palpatine was talking to anakin privately in the senate place. Plagus was so powerful he could create life through mediclorians. ITS EVEN IN THE MOVIE!! If you guys pay very close attention the puzzle will come together and u will figure out everything so i advise u ppl to go watch the movie again lol.
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Sith_Lord_Duji
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 6:07 AM
not much is told about plagus. the person who told me this got it off an old star wars comic book  too bad u cant really find the comic anymore. Anyone know anything about it? Lol u gotta be atleast 20 years old or so at the moment to remember that because it was only there back in the day.
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SeanPPrice
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 6:46 AM
Get a life folks, this is the dumbest issue I have heard yet. Lets do the math and see if this passes the common sense test. "Darth Plagueis is so wise he had the ability to influence the midichlorians to create life. He could even use this power to stop the people he loved from dying. " Yeah, thats a believable story. Brings to mind a question. Why the hell would a Sith Lord desire to stop the people they loved from dying when the Sith Lords cared only about themselves?
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SeanPPrice
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 6:47 AM
(And for those of you who arent intelligent enough to think through this, Anakin was not a true Sith until news of the death of his wife Padme was delivered, so no he had nobody to care for until his son came into play, hence the reason Yoda and Obi-wan were so ademant about ensuring his off spring survived to face them). Next, if the Sith did have this power, which it is obvious they didnt have, why then did they use it to create the future of the Sith in a Slave?
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SeanPPrice
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 6:48 AM
This is just plain silly. It didnt happen. A Sith Lord lives by and is indoctrinated by the ability to control everything and everybody around them. So this BS about Shmie is poorly thought out.
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SeanPPrice
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 6:48 AM
Next, you can look at Palpatine's record as a Sith Lord. When was Palpatine ever known for his Honesty. He lied to everybody he came into contact with. He lied to Lord Tyrannus (Count Dooko for those who havent figured that one out yet) He lied to every one of the Seperatest Leaders, he lied to the Jedi, he lied to the Senate, and lastely for those to ignorant to figure it out, he lied to Anakin.
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SeanPPrice
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 6:49 AM
Palpatine was not able to take control of the Senate due to his being an excellent Swordsman (Most definately one of the top swordsman in history). It wasnt his incredible use of the Dark Side either. His name says only half of the story, Sidious aka the insider, which we can all agree upon as being his biggest asset in his quest for power. It was his ability to act as Puppet Master and pull everybodys strings at just the right time to convince his audience (The Huddled Masses of the Galaxy) that the Jedi needed to go and that the Galaxy couldnt live without him.
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SeanPPrice
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 6:49 AM
And the part with Anakin was simple, he knew about the prophecy of the chosen one, knew that idea bothered Anakin, knew he needed a Sith Lord with Anakins abilities to do his bidding for him, and also that Anakins attachment to the ladys in his life, had lead to his butchery of the Sand People, which meant a BS story was the key to pulling Anakins String. Ill leave it at that now.
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Darth Jeks Shadow of a Hidden Thought
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 7:36 AM
SeanPPrice: I never said it was defitnately Plageuis that created Anakin. All I've said is that it could be possible. As I've stated, I'm going into the force creation thing in pt. 2 and we'll see where all of this ends up.
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PrincessJessieSkywalker The Tatooine Dream
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 7:43 AM
I believe neither Palpatine nor Plageuis are responsible for creating Anakin, the "Chosen One". I believe the force had to create him. If he was the "chosen One", which I think he was, then why would a Sith have created him if he were going to bring balance to the Force. In my eyes Sith are not part of a balanced universe. Also, because Anakin had to play both sides (Jedi, then Sith) to in the end bring that balance, I don't think the Sith would have had anything to do with it. The Force made it ALL happen, Anakin was miraculously conceived, he became a Jedi Knight, turned to the Dark side as a powerful Sith Lord, then finally ended it all! ***May the Force be with all of you!***
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PrincessJessieSkywalker The Tatooine Dream
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 7:44 AM
Darth Jeks - nice blog & definately looking forward to reading the rest to see what you have to say about the Force creating Anakin.
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wookiewoman9
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 6:06 PM
Palpatine and Plageuis were Sith Lords but they both were not that clever to create and impregnant Shmi Skywalker. Star Wars is all abour relationships and how the offsprings of Anakin/Darth Vader helped in bring balance to the force, it all plays out well. Their mother dedicated her life to bring peace to the galaxy, and after her death her own daughter Leia did what she had to do to bring peace to the galaxy. Luke Skywalker was not happly as being a moisture farmer it was in him to carry on and bring peace to the galaxy. Yes the force did create Anakin, no Sith were involved.
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electromagnum
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 6:37 PM
Well, regarding the "midichlorians to create life" idea, how his conception was due to the will of the force is probably the best bet. But, if we take into consideration the idea that the sith created Anakin, I don't think it was so much "They decided to impregnant a slave, and then erase her memory" that is just stupid. If anything, they used the force to -influence- the midichlorians, and the midichlorians are everywhere, and so the force just randomly chose somebody. Get it?
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clonereject#1138
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 6:53 PM
I dont even thin palpatine had intended fo anikin until after Ep 1
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Red Devil 7 Can You Handle the Cuteness?
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 6:58 PM
I really don't like to think that Plageuis created Anakin Skywalker for his own devious purposes. For me, that puts a huge damper on the essence of what Star Wars is. I'd much rather think he was conceived by the will of the Force to bring balance (whatever balance may mean to you). But well-thought out blog; cheers!
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TK-8252
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 7:07 PM
Why is it that we need ANOTHER of these blogs?
Why can't everyone just accept the truth which is that the Sith had NOTHING to do with Anakin's creation? If you believe that Anakin is really some demon spawn of the Sith then you're clueless.
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Ket Kovan It is all Padma's fualt!
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 7:24 PM
It is said that the force has a will of its own.
Over the long history of jedi and sith it seams as if the control of the galaxie shifts from light to dark and evently back to light and so on. Before TPM the jedi were in control. Then it seams that the force was ready to shift again back to the dark side. The dark side had a short reign(sp) of 30ish years when Luke came and restored power back to light.
What i am trying to get at is that ,if the force has a will around TPM the dark side was starting to take control again.
Therfore i think it was the darkside that created anikin.
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dude1580
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 7:41 PM
I havent read most of the entries here because I am dead tired, but I dont think Sith created Ani. In most cases one does not create what will destroy one. Its similar to Oedipus rex. Plus I think Palpi didnt have as much foresight as he thought, or he would have known that Vader was going to sway back to the light before the end. This is child that was concieved of nothing tangible. This was Lucas's attempted to bring back religous philosophy back into the prequel trilogy like the original was littered with. Though fans like us writing these blogs killed this attempt, we should still stop and look for a second
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wachowskijoe
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 7:42 PM
Good Theory, thats all thats needed to be said.
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dude1580
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 7:48 PM
Anakin wasnt concieved of an earthly thing. Now either Sci-Fi nerds are going to say it was some mystic evil dude who made Anakin his love child, or a Star Wars fan can look at the religion again. His having no human father resembles that of Christ having no father by blood on earth. Shmi carried him and birthed him without every doing it with some dude, or at least doing it without Star Wars style protection. The Virgin Mary, she carried and birthed christ. In the original trilogy the force was like the holy spirit in Christianity. The holy spirit impregnated Mary, and the force impregnated Shmi.
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dude1580
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 7:49 PM
Anakin's ultamite sacrafice was not evil and he served his purpose in ridding a plague from the universe. A Sith Lord couldnt have made something that ended up becoming so pure, and so.....good guyish. The light side of the force was Anakin's papa, and the holy spirit was Christ's papa. Simple allusion to the bible, haha
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dude1580
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 7:49 PM
sorry I write alot, get on tangents and ramble
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Darth Quemus
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 8:25 PM
The users of the dark side see and predict dark deeds clearly, the users of the light side have similar insight into events inspired by the light side of the force; hence, the Jedi progressively losing insight throughout the prequal trilogy and the emporer facing a few surprises in ROTJ. Palpatine was less limited in his ability to predict the future by distance in time than uncharacteristic light side influence, i.e. Luke resisting temptation to give into the dark side and Anakin turning back to the light.
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stormraiderjedidragon
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 8:27 PM
could have seen his death coming at Luke's hand and prevented it.
I just wanted to point out that it wasn't Luke, but Anakin/Vader who took out Palpy. Though Luke was there and helped Vader return to the Light, he wasn't the one who actually picked the dude up and tossed 'im into the reactor.
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Thunder Rat
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 8:30 PM
Thank you dude 1580. Right on the head!
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Thunder Rat
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 8:30 PM
Thank you dude 1580. Right on the head!
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NewBeliever
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 8:43 PM
I just don't see how Anakin could have come from a sith if he loves the way he does.(or at least did) I just finished reading the RoTS book (which I HIGHLY recommend) and in it, all he ever is really trying to do it save everybody. Now, I can understand that this is based on his fear of losing them, and we all know that fear is from the dark side, but in the beginning, before Palpatine maniuplated his every mood....he did LOVE. So I can buy into the idea that the Force created him, and that he of course did have his agency to choose, light or dark. I wonder if he had been with Obi-wan when he was going after Grevious, if the whole thing wouldn't have turned out differently.
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NewBeliever
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 8:44 PM
Could plaqeuis have created Ani? Yes, if you think he was just trying an experiment, that he was created for the sole purpose to become Darth Vader? No way.
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soberjedi24 redemtion from the force
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 8:52 PM
the chosen one is the one created the Force itself. The whole piont is that its supposed to be a biblcal refernce, ie, jesus christ virgin birth and all that...( I assume that shmi was a virgin)
however; it does seem that if anything, darth plaegius created darth sidouis. They do seem to have a close relationship from what palps tells anakin, and has apartenly passed all his secrets to him. I think thats more possible than creating anakin, but we can only assume that plaguies is human, what if hes a yoda specie? We also have no idea how old palps is. But Anakin Skywalker "the chosen One" is indeed that, and therfore a miracouls birth.
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I Am Darth Raven
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 8:57 PM
You are mistaken. Plagueis is the creator of Anakin. It is more likely that Plagueis created him than Palpatine. Also Yoda said that the future is always in motion and that is difficult to see, so it is easy to guess that Palpatine did not see the correct future, only an alternate one that could have happened. Anyway Vader killed Palpatine.
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I Am Darth Raven
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 8:58 PM
Palpatine did not do anything about it for the same reason he did not defend himself against Anakin when Anakin had to choose over the Jedi or Palpatine, Palpatine trusts Anakin. Luke said that Palpatine's weakness was his over confidence, so he also could have believed Vader would never turn on him, as Dooku did not believe Palpatine would turn on him by letting Anakin kill him in Episode 3, or as Plagueis did not believe Palpatine would turn on . Any one of these could explane why Palpatine died at Vader's hand.
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bwingfighter88
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 9:01 PM
cool theory, but i think there is one hole in the theory. Wasn't Plageuis a sith master a centuries ago, back around, after the sith wars? If this is true, then Plageuis could not have inpregnated Shimi. of course, I could be wrong.
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dude1580
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 9:03 PM
sober jedi, dude you took my thunder, read my blog man, haha, I like the way you think though laddy
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I Am Darth Raven
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 9:29 PM
you people are so ignorant. how can you believe that this is all random. it was the REVENGE OF THR SITH. anakin is the revenge of the sith. it is not coincidence that he is the most gifted jedi in history and turned sith right when palpatine needed him most. he was not some christ of the force. plagueis made him to rule now here is some hard evidence that isn't based on fiction. GEORGE LUCAS PUT IN THERE FOR A REASON. this a small fact that could have been anything to turn anakin bad but lucas chose this.
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I Am Darth Raven
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 9:31 PM
plaguis is palpatine's master. palpatine could have been dooku's age when he joined the sith
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I Am Darth Raven
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 9:32 PM
does that answer your question bwingfighter88
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I Am Darth Raven
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 9:38 PM
the pair Plagueis and Palpatine most likely was right before Palpatine and Maul
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dani82
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 10:02 PM
I think Anakin is a product of the force. It is very possible that during the scene where Paps was talking to Anakin regarind midiclorians that Paps just wanted ani to have some sort of explination on who his father / maker was. This way Palpatine could make Anakin feel closer with him as Palpatine knew where he Anakin came from or something...
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flavin1234 sith lords are our speciality not
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 10:30 PM
hello there what i belive is that plageous creat palaptine. and to balance the hate the force made anakin. i belive it is truly the force who has made anakin to destroy palpatine as the profecy does say
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Impsterminator Star Wars Should Be A Religion
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 10:33 PM
Well it makes sense and goes with the facts... and GL's inspiration that Anakin=Jesus. Virgin baby born of the force. I think its said that somewhere.
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darths-damsel
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 10:33 PM
Good job [New Believer/b]! you have brought sanity to this intense blog. i totally agree with you and your insight. i read the book like 50 times, and the philosophical aspects of anakin's behavior clearly lead to the conclusion that he wasn't [born/i] a sith!
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rickgelz
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 10:46 PM
Excellent blog, as always, Darth Jeks. I'm very much looking forward to the second part.
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idehaven
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 10:47 PM
Hey, Maybe all of you can influence the midichrlorians to create......LIFE....FOR YOURSELVES. You people have got to be kidding. GET A LIFE ALREADY. THEY ARE JUST MOVIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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darthvaderisborn
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date Posted: Aug 26, 2005 11:38 PM
Palpatine created him to be his stroingest chosen one, the propechy could be misread, Chosen one for the sith of for the Jedi, prety much Anakin was it for the Jedi. Does anyone got the feeling Luke and Leia wern't children from Anakin, but created by the force?
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JediShemL Anakin Skywalker's Conception
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date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 12:32 AM
YOU WILL WANT TO READ THIS!
Plagueis could not have done it because Anakin is at least 10 to 15 years younger than Darth Maul. And it says in Darth Sidious' profile that Darth Maul became Sidious' apprentice after the death of Plagueis.
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darthmark1970
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date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 1:38 AM
anakin wasnt created buy the sith lord but was created indirectly because of him the sith were gaining power throwing the force off balance so the midicholirins created him to bring about balance but it didnt happen in the way the jedi thought
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