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Shadow of a Hidden Thought
date posted: Aug 26, 2005 11:31 PM
The True Birth of Anakin Skywalker
Alright, here we go. Last night's entry recieved such a huge amount of comments with people's theories that this hardly seems necessary anymore, but I promised I would finish it, so here it is. If you haven't read part one, check it out here.

As mentioned in part one, I have two theories left to discuss. First, that perhaps Shmi lied about Anakin's birth, and second, the common opinion that he was created by the will of the force.

Let's begin: Shmi lied about Anakin's birth to make him seem more impressive to the Jedi in hopes of doing something good for her son.

The things going for this theory are that Shmi told Qui-Gon about this before he had ever really seen many of Anakin's abilities or begun the ordeal with the podrace. Thus, she would have believed that the Jedi were leaving as soon as they could and wanted to do everything in her power to make them do something good for Anakin.

But, the things against this theory stack up far too well for it to hold up: Anakin was a very loving, very kind kid. It's obvious in the movies and even more so in the books. If his mother was so deceptive, I do not believe he would have grown up the way he did. In addition to this, we have no proof that Shmi (or Anakin for that matter) had ever lied before. So why should we believe that Shmi would lie just in this one scenario? Plus, lying of this sort just doesn't fit with the SW saga, it isn't that dark and the other theories are simply far more likely.

So did Shmi lie? Did Anakin have a real, living father? In my opinion, no way. I think in Shmi's perspective, it was exactly as she said.

And now, on to the theory that you've all been waiting to here my opinion on (hopefully): Anakin was created by the will of the force.

In my opinion, DarkLordZor's analysis of the force is right on the money. It is a religious thing at heart, and the balance spoken of in the prophecy happens at the end of ROTJ because everyone respects the force again as they should. With that said, the force obviously becomes almost a living, breathing thing that is constantly influencing events so that what it feels is correct will eventually come to pass, no matter the cost.

For people to respect it again as they should, the force needed Anakin. The Jedi had become arrogant, so it used the Sith to put them back into their place. It was their doctrines that were ultimately more in the force's interests for the universe however, so they survived in the end.

Look at Palpatine for an example. Yes, he had these elaborate and amazing plans, but everything (mostly about Anakin) also played directly into his hands. Events that he could not possibly have controlled played directly to his favor. Maul died and Anakin showed up. Anakin and Padme fell in love. The Hyperdrive core failed and allowed Anakin to be found in the first place. Everything concerning Anakin in the prequels also concerns Palpatine getting lucky. The force was with him, so to speak, and obviously not with the Jedi. The force wanted Anakin to become Vader and return balance.

Another clear example of this is Padme's death which I went into in another entry. She "officially" died of a broken heart, but it is my belief that the force took her to place Anakin firmly in Palpatine's hands.

So basically, Anakin's whole life was and seems chosen by the force. I don't think it would be pushing it at all to assume that it created him as well. And as many people have said, it also makes for a great religious analogy for Lucas and fits into what seem to be his visions of the series.

So my final word?

I believe that Anakin was created by the force, exactly as the movies state. I think it is the true meaning of the prophecy that people are having trouble grasping, and thus they aren't seeing that the force controlled his life from the beginning. Once this is seen, I think the connection is obvious.

Thanks for reading my blogs and posting all the great comments!

Until Next Time,
Darth Jeks

Oh, and while your reading, let me know which topic you would most like me to research and blog about next: The droids and the memory wipe, Sifo-Dyas and the creation of the clone army, whether or not Palpatine lied about Plageuis, or suggest something. Also, if there is still any interest in my blocked "Palpatine's Shadow" blogs that attempted to detail Palpatine's life before TPM using the facts we have, please let me know and I'll try to put it on a seperate site and post a link to it in a blog.

  Master Obi-Dan Kenobi
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 3:15 AM
At last someone who can quite happily accept the possibility that Anakin was created by the will of the force, and not looking for some darker sinister explanation. Although i admit some of the other theories do have some plausable eliments. However, I am of your point of view. In fact i believe Lucas on many occassion has indeed sated outright that Anakin was born through the will of the force. It is refreshing to read a blog that isn't trying to look for some other answer, because the real one seems too simple. If a lightsabre can exist, why is it so far fetched that Anakin was simply created by the force?
  Yego2778
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 5:30 AM
As you both stated, the movies tells us that Anakin is created by the Force. There's even a prophecy about it in the Jedi beliefs. Qui-Gon states that it is possible that he was created by the medichlorians.
But then again, Palpatine talks about a Sith Lord named Darth Plageis that, through years of research, could control the medichlorians to create life. Why bring that in the picture? Lure Anakin because it could save his wife, or to hint that Anakin could be from there?
  Yego2778
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 5:34 AM
As much as I hate it, Lucas makes it simple sometimes, too obvious, and other times he keeps it so vague.
But all the way that Anakin was found on Tatooine and that "mysteriously" he met the girl of his life and she's, by some great luck, on her way to speak with Palpatine. That's a lot of luck, but there is not such things as luck, there'S the Force. Like when Luke meets Artoo that, what a luck, arrives there to be sold, hold a message from his sister, for Obi-Wan Kenobi, which was Anakin's mentor.... The Will of The Force.
  Yego2778
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 5:38 AM
But again... there's those theories of Sith names being given based on some "qualities" of the apprentice. Like Sidious (insidious, to hide and work his plans)), Maul (to strikes), and so on... Plageis could be for plague, and if he did create Anakin, he created a plague.... just a though. :)
  Rustar Landos
Chronicals of a Madman
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 5:58 AM
i still think that Anakin was created by Plageius to control Palpatine, but he underestimated his apprentice. Although I like ur theory, I still think the way I do. if u go to supershadow.com, it gives an extensive possible history of he Galaxy...
  darthjimenez7
Just Me And The Sith
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 9:07 AM
it would be cool if you wrote about mace vs palps and yoda vs palps.]:)
  Darth Jeks
Shadow of a Hidden Thought
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 9:10 AM
I just wanted to point out that there have been several press announcements on this site and elsewhere that supershadow has no actual connection to Star Wars and that his web site is purely fan fiction and theories. Thus, I try to stay away from there when formulating my blogs.

Thanks for the suggestion darthjimenez7, I'll look into that.
  KingoftheATATs
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 10:32 AM
*Sigh* I think you put way too much thought into this. I mean Anakin was just created by the will of the Force. Period. He was supposed to bring "balance to the Force", right? Instead he joined the Sith. But... remember, in the end he kills Palpatine, thus bringing balance to the Force (or so I believe). Then there's the thing of "How is killing off the Sith bringing balance to the Force?" Well, I think that when there's no evil, only good, that would be a good balance. A balance of good, with no evil.
Just my thoughts, hope you enjoyed. :)
  JediKnight910
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 10:52 AM
I would like for you to research and blog about, The droids and the memory wipe, Sifo-Dyas and the creation of the clone army!!!!!!!!!

Sincerely,

Cris.
  Yuzakk
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 11:52 AM
it would be cool if you write about the changes on the old movies version and the new movies version of the original triology!!!!!:D
  Yuzakk
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 12:34 PM
why isnt my avatar working???
  iKilledAllTheJedi
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 2:21 PM
In your first blog about ani's birth you said that palpatine would have forseen his death at the hand of luke, accept luke did not kill him, vadar did. also i was wondering, why did palpatine want luke to kill him, or if he knew that he would not. do you think that maybe he actually wanted vadar and luke to take over for him someday? cause in Rots he says that sith are affraid of losing their power. cause luke did eventually take a swing at palpatine afterall.
  iKilledAllTheJedi
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 2:21 PM
Also...did vadar stop luke from killing palpatine because he wanted to protect his master, or because he really didn't want luke to join him on the darkside? think about it...he wanted to rule the galaxy as father and son...if luke had of killed palpatine, he may have been swayed more easily to the darkside, and then vadar would have had his wish...i think that maybe deep down the good that was still in vadar did not want that way of life for his son...any ideas...anyone?]:)
Jedi Barriss
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 4:40 PM
I think that the force created Anakin. Whether it was helped by Plageis is entirely possible. I don't think Palpatine knew of him before, otherwise he would have had him somewhere training him as he did with Darth Maul.
  Master Jeno
Future of Star Wars
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 4:54 PM
Well said, lot's of people have their views but that has to be the best I've ever read. I think the prophecy is correct and Palpatine heard it and Anakin fell into his hands because of the force. Maybe part of the prophecy is that Anakin would go through a bad life where he would have to make choices.
That's a very interesting read
  jediracer41
Jediracer
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 8:14 PM
ahhh....somebody smart enough not to believe every word out of palpatine's mouth!! people...come on...the guy was trying to twist anakin, not spill the deepest secrets of the sith. i see all these blogs bashing anakin and padme for believing blindly...but here are all of these people hanging anakin's existence on a story palpatine told, which even HE said was a legend....
  Darth Daffy Duck
Dagobah Deleted Scene Babble
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 8:57 PM
Doesn't Master Jeno's avatar look like Shaggy?

Okay now that I've gotten that out of the way....
First off, nice logical thinking. Secondly, I like to point out that according to STAR WARS INSIDER, Darth Plageuis is Sidious' Master. Now correct me if I'm wrong, which is highly possible, but I thought Plageuis could sustain life by manipulating midichloridians, not create.

I do think your theory is good. I do ponder if the Force is in Balance when its just Obi wan, Yoda, Vader, and Sidious, rather than the death of the Emperor. Let me know what you think.
  KingoftheATATs
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 9:32 PM
Darth Daffy Duck, it IS Shaggy--Sha'a Gi that is! ;)
  roguetigon
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 10:59 PM
While I can agree that the Force can alter events and so forth, I find it strange that if the Force created Anakin, then why as a slave? Granted one could say it gave Shmi a push to send towards a better life, now has a traumatic event in life--slavery. As a result, he'd have emotional issues once his training as a Jedi began adjusting in social status and loss of his mother. So why would the Force make such an unstable entity, especially if said entity is to bring balance to it? If the Force is so powerful and able to control or manipulate events or even create life, why can't it balance itself out?
  roguetigon
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 11:01 PM
Another thought with Anakin's conception...Shmi is a slave. Breeding slaves would be profitable to their owners since it would mean obtaining more slaves without having to pay for them. Arrangements could have been made between Shmi's Hutt owner and a Sith or Dark Jedi as a way of experimentation in toying with midichlorians. Even in vitro fertilization would be a possibility. It would be a type of scheme worthy of the Dark Side afterall. And Shmi could have been drugged or sedated for such to occur thus rendering her unable to remember or know how her pregnancy happened. So, she'd still be telling the truth when saying she just ended up pregnant since she didn't know it happened herself.

  Bladeofevilsbane
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 7:39 AM
If the Force is so powerful and able to control or manipulate events or even create life, why can't it balance itself out?

When you've dine something right, nobody will now you've done anything at all.
  general3po
Favorite character
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 9:22 AM
I`d love it if you research "The droids and the memory wipe"and blog it.
  Jorge Fonseca
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 1:06 PM
What about if Shimi was a powerful ex jedi ?
  Darth_maul_41_
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 1:09 PM
Great job, i loved this blog (almost) as much as the Darth Palpatine one. i personally believe about the same as you, just that the "plans" of the light side of the Force were messed up by the Dark Side, Palpatine to be exact. I also completely agree with the religious analogy, and think all other ideas are longshots.
  obi jon kenobi8
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 1:42 PM
man, you`re truly amazing! I bet you lucas is going to hire you the tv-show that might be coming up! you got some true writing skills! but seriously, couldn`t you write about how Plaugeis survived so long, when every other sith just got killed? cause you know, the sith kill theirselves also......
  lia_nailo
Random Ruminations of a SW Fangirl
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 4:58 PM
"The force wanted Anakin to become Vader and return balance. "

I understand where you're coming from ... but boy, the Force is sure one vindictive SOB, then, huh? I mean, my gosh, Anakin was tormented for how many years over what was going on in his life?

It just seems really mean to plan for something like that to happen to someone. If the Force is this omniscient power ... the only way it could manage it was by taking an innocent person, and heaping so much crap on him that he kills his loved ones, maims one of his children and tortures another of them, and spends over 2 1/2 decades in utter misery?

i'm not saying you're wrong, BTW ... I'm just saying ... ouch.

  lia_nailo
Random Ruminations of a SW Fangirl
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 4:59 PM
ps, sorry about all the bold, I must have forgotten the closing bold tag.

D'oh! :O
  Darth Jeks
Shadow of a Hidden Thought
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 5:12 PM
There have been a lot of comments asking me to do Windu vs. Palpatine, so I started looking into it. I might still do it, but in the mean time, check out this blog about it- its the best one I've read so far!

http://blogs.starwars.com/sith-archives66/9
or Click Here
  willawonkie
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 6:59 PM
I have a subject that you could discuss. If Padme died right after giving birth, then why does Leah say that she has memories of her in ROTJ?
  DarthMaul431
Darth Maul Lives!
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 7:28 PM
Darth Jeks,

This blog is so interesting and very intelligent. I'm glad someone agree with me about how Anakin was intended to be born.

I really think you should go into the facts about Palaptine and Plagueis' "powers" that destroy life. I don't believe that either of them had the powers at all because if Palpatine told Anakin that he could create life or prevent one from dying, why would he not offer Anakin the chance to revive Padme after she died? Another reason he didn't have these powers is (going into the EU here) because if he did why would he need clone bodies if he could just keep himself from dying?
Darth_Kore
Timeline Cannon Vs. EU & Movie Cannon Screamers
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 7:35 PM
Many times before it has been shown that The Force demands its balance . If it was the thought of Plagious to creat the ultimate Force user , it was the Force to counter and create its balance through the Sith and Plagious , Palpatine and then Anakin for his life was balanced between the light and dark . His beliefs to that of the Living and Unifying Force because of Kenobi trying to teach both the way of Qui-Gon and the Council. Balance was the way of Anakin's life . Justice and equality the things he believed even if he had to do it through the Sith. I have looked at this for a long time and have to agree with Darth Jeks . Anakin was of The Living Unifying Force true balance for it balanced its self out through him as a means.
  Jedi Master Jam
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 7:45 PM
Palpatine used the Force to influence the Midi-Cholrans to created Life.

In Ep3 we come to the understanding that Palpatine had a Master named Darth Plageuis th wise. And that he had such a knowledge of the Darkside of the Force, that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. Palpatine also confuses to Anakin that Darth Plagueis, "could use the Force to influence the Midi-Cholrans to create Life." Then Palpatine goes on telling Anakin that "Unforunately he taught his apprentice everything he knew and his apprentice killed him in his sleep." His apprentice was Palpatine.
  Jedi Master Jam
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 7:46 PM
So if you believe that Darth Plageuis was the master of Palpatine, you know that Palpatine was taught to use the Force to influence the Midi-Cholrans to create Life.

  Jedi Master Jam
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 7:46 PM
But how do we know which one created Anakin. The answer to that question is very simple. The foundation to the Sith order is this: "Always two there are, no more, no less, a Master and an Apprentice." And the only way an apprentice can become a master is when the master dies. In Ep1, Palpatine is indeed a master with his apprentice Darth Maul, and Anakin is already nine years old. Darth Maul is roughly 10-15 years older than Anakin. If read Darht Maul's Ep1 journal, you know that he was trained by Palpatne since he was a toddler 10-15 years before the birth of Anakin.

This means that Palpatine was already a master at the time of Anakins birth and that Plageuis was long gone.
  Jedi Master Jam
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 7:47 PM
But why would Palpatine create a boy that would be the Chosen One destined to desroy the Sith. The answer to that is in Ep3 when Obi Wan and Mace were going with Yoda to the hanger bay.

Obi Wan tells the two that Anakin do not take to his new assignment with much enthusiasm. Mace says, "Very dangerous putting them together. I don't think he can handle it, I don't trust him." Obi response, :With all do respect master, is he not the Chosen One..." Mace, "So the Prophecy says!" Yoda, "A Prophecy that misread could have been."
  Jedi Master Jam
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 7:47 PM
We don't know what the Prophecy says word for word. From the Jedi point of view, we know that the Chosen One would be concieved by the Midi-Cholrans, destroy the Sith, and bring balance to the Force. But what if the Prophecy's text never used the words Sith or Jedi and that the Jedi Order inturbeted that way, inturbeted wrong. That is why Yoda said "A Prophecy that misread could have been."

So what if the Prophecy was fair game for the Sith and Jedi and wasn't desigated for just one group.
  MikeStats12
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 7:54 PM
Its very simple to me though, Anakin was a prophecy. Shimi knew someone and she got pregnant without knowing. Anakin was just a regular kid with an incredible amount of unnatural talent. He made a choice to join the Dark Side and in the end he fulfilled the prophecy by destroying the Sith and bringing balance to the force.:)
  Weito Mu
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 7:59 PM
I like to believe that it is just as simple as Anakin being created by the will of the Force. It is the most feasible explanation, and ultimately, in my eyes, the only explanation. I agree with the idea that the Force controls all events throughout the galaxy. The only thing that I question repeatedly is the prophecy of 'the chosen one who will bring balance to the force'? My concept of balance is one of equal presence.
  Weito Mu
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 8:00 PM
Therefore, Anakin brings balance to the force by killing all of the Jedi...when he is finished, there are two Sith lords and two Jedi. Thus, you have a balance of the Forc. This makes the Jedi interpretation of the prophecy completely inaccurate

i.e. Anakin is the result of the Force trying to balance the equation..
masterkenobiwan
Certain Point of View
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 9:29 PM
very nice blog - the only problem I have with your theory is that as far as I know the force controls everyone's lives to a certain extent so it doesn't necessarily serve as the defining piece of evidence that the Force created Anakin, but I guess my real problem is that I prefer a more middle of the road answer that doesn't parallel a religion as much

and in terms of your next entry nothing comes to mind so I'll vote for the Sifo-Dyas and the army one.
I'd also find what you had to say about Palpatine's past interesting if you get around to posting a link
of course, perhaps an entry with your views on the whether Palpatine was lying about Plagueis or not would be more appropriate to go along w/ those
  Hedec Ga
War Journal of Hedec Ga
date Posted: Aug 29, 2005 8:16 AM
I say Plagueis (spelling?) created Anakin. Why? Not a clue. Maybe to sway the Prophecy to the Dark Side, to ensure this Chosen One was a Sith insead of a Jedi. I think it was Plagueis, BUT I think Palpatine did not know all these secrets his master did. At least, not to the same extent. I think he recognized who Anakin was and he wanted him around so he could, in fact, study him and try to figure out what made him tick so that Palpatine could be as powerful as his own master. That's my theory.
  Hedec Ga
War Journal of Hedec Ga
date Posted: Aug 29, 2005 8:17 AM
And, since I haven't had the chance to post on this subject before, my thoughts on the whole "Restoring Balance" prophecy...I don't think it had anything to do with the Jedi outnumbering the Sith. I think it simply had to do with the Jedi's complacency. They NEEDED their butts handed to them before they finally got off their high horse and stopped being so snobby. They were lazy, sitting up in their tower, refusing to get involved in the plight of the people. It was only after they were nearly extinct that they became humbled. So, in that respect, I believe Anakin DID bring blance to the force and I think that the Force chose to use Plagueis' arrogance to do it. Nice turnaround, I say.
  Hedec Ga
War Journal of Hedec Ga
date Posted: Aug 29, 2005 8:17 AM
And, since I haven't had the chance to post on this subject before, my thoughts on the whole "Restoring Balance" prophecy...I don't think it had anything to do with the Jedi outnumbering the Sith. I think it simply had to do with the Jedi's complacency. They NEEDED their butts handed to them before they finally got off their high horse and stopped being so snobby. They were lazy, sitting up in their tower, refusing to get involved in the plight of the people. It was only after they were nearly extinct that they became humble. So, in that respect, I believe Anakin DID bring blance to the force and I think that the Force chose to use Plagueis' arrogance to do it. Nice turnaround, I say.
  Thomas75
date Posted: Aug 29, 2005 9:01 AM
You make it sound a little too much like the Force made Anakin turn to the Dark side and this I don't believe. Afterall Yoda tell us "Life creates it, makes it grow", why would it want to kill people then.

Anakin made all his own choices it was entirely up to him to fall and he did it all because he thought he was doing the right thing.

The Force did create Anakin and he was to bring balance which he finally does in ROTJ but it wasn't exactly the way the Jedi thought he would. Remember Yoda saying in ROTS "A prophecy that misread could have been" meaning that Anakin might not being the becon of shining light that they expected him to be. Everyone has a destiny to fulfill and Anakin fulfills his but it's not 100% scripted.
  Hedec Ga
War Journal of Hedec Ga
date Posted: Aug 29, 2005 9:15 AM
Oh, and while your reading, let me know which topic you would most like me to research and blog about next: The droids and the memory wipe, Sifo-Dyas and the creation of the clone army,

Hey, I'm all about hearing more of Sifo-Dyas. In Ep II they played it up as this big mystery and then they just let it drop. I hear the explanation is in Labryinth of Evil, but my reading list is backed up as it is, so I'm all for hearing what Sifo-Dyas was all about!
  darthmike803
date Posted: Aug 29, 2005 9:33 AM
Very well done. And well thought out.
  xmovingpicturesx
date Posted: Aug 29, 2005 10:34 AM
Okay, me and my brother had this big argument, right around a month before EP. III, that Mace Windu was actually Sifo-Dyas. I know it sounds crazy, but there were so many reasons to believe. He wasn't truly a Jedi. I know this. But in EP. III he comes off like this bad-### master who's all about what's right. He never trusted Anakin as he should, and that would have moved things along much quicker. Balance would have been brought to the force, Palpatine would have been dethroned far before Anakin learns of his "power," yet Luke and Leia would have still been brought up as a great Jedi master, and a great new Republic politician. There's a piece to the puzzle missing, it's all a matter of finding out which one.
  jedimaster011090
Banan DaLos
date Posted: Aug 29, 2005 11:42 AM
I would like to know what you think happened to Vader in between the PT and OT...because he is a different evil than he is in ep. III than he is in ep IV V and VI, save for the end of VI
  JediArwenUndomiel
date Posted: Aug 29, 2005 12:53 PM
I like your theory, just want to add something to support your thought that Plageius can't be Anakin's creator: as long as I know he died a thousand years ago. It is phisically impossible for him to create Anakin. Beside this I want to ask you what do you think about this: how come that Sidious knew about Padme's death, but did't know about the birth of the twins? And something else: why Jedi have waited for 18 years to begin Luke's training? I want to apologize to everybody about my English, but I'm a learner, not a native speaker.
  Yego2778
date Posted: Aug 29, 2005 12:58 PM
I like the idea of Anakin been created by the Force as you states. Before the Prequels, the Force was like magic. It had a will. Until Ep.1. Lucas tried to make the Force somethinc that scientific could see, in the form of medichlorians. THEN, in Ep.3, Palpatine states that Darth Plageis could "play" with medichlorians to (from the script) create life. Why Lucas would put that in his movies, if not to hint that Anakin was created (Qui-Gon states that it is possible that he was created my the medichlorians).
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