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Starweaver Cockpit
by: Yaldren Starquest
date posted: Mar 07, 2008 5:02 PM
Darth Bane novels
While i was reading Star Wars stuff on the Internet, it amazed me the amount of people who disliked the novels of Darth Bane by Drew Karpyshyn, mainly because some contradictions with the comic.

So I thought I will just write here my own critics and thoughts.

For starters I will say that Jedi vs Sith is not one of my favorite comic series, and there are a lot of reasons for this, first the title, i think it just lacks creativity, but anyway, while I was reading it, I felt it like I was reading something totally different from the Star Wars universe, I was wondering when Merlin will pop out to guide Aragorn with this lightsaber excalibur to defeat the Dark Lord Sauron X_x, all that armors and stuff, I never felt like all of that could fit in Star Wars, and when I saw Lord Farfallas ship, I was like I can't believe this :O, next thing I will see is the Titanic coming out from hyperspace to help the jedi.

Well all that was the artistic stuff, I don't know if it was the idea of lia ribacchi or ramon bachs, but I think it was to medieval for Star Wars, if we compare it with Tales of the Jedi (a comic series I love by the way). Anyway the art style, wich is different to everything I have mentioned, is something i like a lot, more cartoonish, but it worked for me.

Now about the story, I have nothing to say, I just loved the way in wich this serie put toguether the words of Yoda, and the myth of the Valley of the Jedi, with the comic all that stuff from Jedi Knight reached a new cannon level (Game's cannon is lower than comics cannon if I'm not mistaken).

Now about the novels, yes I noticed some changes, the order of some events changed, and the participation of some characters was almost errased from it. But I like to interpret it like this: The comic was from the point of view of some kids, specially Darovit, and its common that kids tend to exagerate and/or alter some facts, but it's understandable, they were in the middle of a figh of two unstopable forces. Now the novels specially the first one, takes the point of view from Darth Bane, oviously some kids would be irrelevant for him, and the war itself was of no importance to him, it was only a mean, to rise to power. And the altered order of some events, I don't think it's that critical.

Now about the second novel, TRoT, I think it was good, taking on account the short period, but the end I was like o please, I'm sure that you realize that even a crazed sith who killed 5 jedis, at least 1 battle master wouldn't die so easily, even if he went insane, even if he was weakened, and please look at the right arm, that wound (hand loss) can't be recent, and what don't you feel the awkward absense of the force on that guy. If only Zannah had channeled her power one last time trought Darovit, that would have been more credible, even with the complications this involve.

Well with all this, I will just say that the Darth Bane novels are not the best novels that I have read, but I like them a lot, the story, the references to old lore, and I hope I can read a 3th novel of Bane. :)

  guiguioh
A journey into the Star Wars universe
date Posted: Mar 08, 2008 12:07 AM
(Game's cannon is lower than comics cannon if I'm not mistaken).

No, they are on the same level, C-canon. ;)
Yaldren Starquest
Starweaver Cockpit
date Posted: Mar 08, 2008 6:10 AM
ooo =) thx for the clarification =), then thx to the novels the Valley reached a new cannon level =P
  PadawanQui-GonJoe
The History of the Jedi Knights
date Posted: Mar 09, 2008 4:11 AM
I would have to agree with the Differences between Comics and the Novels. Comics are for kid, and can not be so violent!

As far as the Novels I personally like them very much. I find Darth Bane more powerful and evil then Darth Sidious or Darth Vader.
  _lordmaul
Lord Maul - The EU Dark Lord
date Posted: Mar 10, 2008 2:41 PM
Great review on this Darth Bane thing, Yaldren Starquest.

I've made my own review on Rule of Two, and I actually didn't even thought about that last scene. Yes, it was a little bit stupid that Darovit was mistaken by a Sith Lord. And even more, considering that his aspect was of a hermit from Ruusan, a non-technological world.

But at the same time it was not that stupid, because Drew was able to allow the Jedi to be mistaken. (continues)
  _lordmaul
Lord Maul - The EU Dark Lord
date Posted: Mar 10, 2008 2:42 PM
Pay close attention to this. The first thing the Jedi see as they land on Ambria was the dismembered body of Caleb. Terror! No man of Light is supposed to see such an attrocitty, and yet those Jedi saw it. They were terrified and that Force uneasiness in the air from the healer's camp didn't help...
Just see this, the Jedi didn't even noticed the spot where Bane had been lying down... After killing Darovit the first thing they made was get away from there, because they were not used to such a scene. And they were not used to such a scene because their roles in the New Sith Wars wasn't anything special, as Karpyshyn told in his book.

(Check my Star Wars blog to read my RoT review ;) )
DJ Maul: Got Feet?
DJ Maul's Dancin' Cantina Party
date Posted: Mar 11, 2008 5:52 AM
in a fictional universe as large as SW there are always bound to be continuity errors, and there was of course TONS of "errors" that needed to be fixed once the Film Saga was complete and gaps were filled by The Maker himself.

Ive always chalked it up to the telling of a myth; myth has a way of growing, altering and changing in the telling, and there can be many versions of the same tale by various tellers.

The great thing for us as readers is we can take what we like, throw out the "errors" and make it work in whatever way we see fit as a fan.

My suggestion is: dont take it all TOO seriously and it becomes far more enjoyable.
Yaldren Starquest
Starweaver Cockpit
date Posted: Mar 11, 2008 6:18 AM
Don't missunderstand me, I do love the novels, and I like to think that the comic was the point of view from the kids, and the novel was the point of view from Bane, thus the discrepancies between the 2 of them.
AdmirableAckbar
Ramblings of an Irishman
date Posted: Mar 13, 2008 1:50 PM
"in a fictional universe as large as SW there are always bound to be continuity errors"

This is not a continuity error, though. It's a deliberate rewrite. For reasons I really cannot fathom, LFL decided to allow Drew K. to completely change one of very few works in that time period, despite the fact that Stackpole, Zahn, Allston and every other EU author have had to adhere to pre-existing canon (aside from Marvel, early on) for the last 15 years. Sure, there are inconsistencies and errors, though all other authors were bound by rules which Drew K., and, more recently, Karen Traviss, seem to be above.
AdmirableAckbar
Ramblings of an Irishman
date Posted: Mar 13, 2008 1:50 PM
You can make up your own retcons to fix the situation, or pretend something doesn't exist, or assume that different stories are told from a different point of view, but this rewriting defeats the purpose of continuity, which is something which makes the Star Wars universe different, and vastly superior, from other franchises. All I can say is that I hope this trend does not continue, and that the authors who are getting permission to rewrite continuity stay away from the eras where they could really cause havoc.
Yaldren Starquest
Starweaver Cockpit
date Posted: Mar 13, 2008 3:11 PM
I have no objections with what Drew K did, in fact I think it was a good move to help the that event on particular, but I'm not aware of what did Karen T. do, I'm curious about that.
AdmirableAckbar
Ramblings of an Irishman
date Posted: Mar 13, 2008 4:54 PM
I'm not entirely up-to-date on it, but I believe she asked if she could rewrite sometime from History of the Mandalorians, in regards to the backstory of [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fenn_Shysa] Fenn Shysa[url] and was given permission to by LFL. That's all I really know, I'm afraid.
  PadawanQui-GonJoe
The History of the Jedi Knights
date Posted: Mar 16, 2008 1:50 AM
I believe she asked if she could rewrite sometime from History of the Mandalorians,

She was allowed to Bring Boba Fett back to life. Fett, is her favorite Mandalorian! Now he is the Mando' lar. The Leader of the Mandalorians. You will find the fact in the Legacy of the Force EU.
Yaldren Starquest
Starweaver Cockpit
date Posted: Mar 16, 2008 8:44 AM
I thought that the one who brought boba to life was J.D. Montgomery with his tale about how he escaped the saarlac.
When did Boba died again?? in Dark Empire he only got lost in a nebula or something, and he is also alive in the new jedi order.
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