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 | Vader, did he really bring balance to the force?? |
 Just recently I have been watching all the starwars movies in a row, like i do every now and then, and i realised that Darth Sidius really doesn't do anything, he gets Vader to do all of his work for him, Darth Sidius is the worst sith lord ever, he has no good power, as in he hasn't done anything worth remembering exept starting an empire that had been started more than a thousand years previously. Vader at this point is so corrupted that Sidius is like Vaders father. Sidius has more power over vader, is the impression vader is getting, but like the sith always do, the apprentice killed the master.
But vader also killed himself by wanting to see luke with his eyes by taking of the helmet and breathing control he died in the arsm of his beloved son, just like the prffacy suggested vader brang ballance to the force, Two sith against thousands of jedi, he killed all the jedi but two, (obi-Wan) and (yoda) and there were only two Sith lords, so he did bring balance two the force and was saved by his sone from the corrupted dark side.
Leaving only one jedi left, the greatest jedi of all Luke Skywalker, who then started a jedi acadamy on endore, according to the sw.com data banks.
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vcfreak15
Forceman
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2006 4:10 PM
sidious defeated yoda, i thought that was sumthing
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Darth_Mordak_The_Wise
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2006 4:13 PM
Vader was the chosen one. He did although not bring balance to the force. After Episode six there were the dark jedi. They whare wiped out by the black hole devastator along with the center of the dark side, The Vordinian galaxy. Whoever activated the black hole devastator brought balance to the force. Vader just destroyed the Sith.
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Jedi Spot
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2006 4:16 PM
darth vader brot balance to the force because he destroid the sith
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Darth_Mordak_The_Wise
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2006 4:22 PM
But the dark side was not destroyed, just the sith.
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DarthDUDE84308
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2006 4:22 PM
I Agree he did bring balance to the force there is no way palpatine survived the fall AND
the explosion of D2 
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DarthDUDE84308
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2006 4:34 PM
no sith no dark side basically.......... anyways that is what the jedi prophecy said he would do
destroy the sith and he did.........
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Zelaskowski
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2006 5:03 PM
Vader did not destroy ALL the jedi. Order 66 took care of many of them. As far as Sisious having done nothing spectacular, he almost singlehandedly, while using his pawns, destroyed a republic that had been in existence for millenia. He did all this while remaining anonymous and making sure others took the blame for most of his dirty work. That's quite a bit of something!!!!!!!!!
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Jedi Spot
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2006 5:07 PM
darck side isint a thing you can see its like the bad spirit that lives in us,some can controll is some cant ![]:)](http://blogs.starwars.com/share/img/emoticons/devil.gif)
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Felix_Fett
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2006 5:16 PM
To bring balance to something sometimes you need to take stuff away from everything, even good. Thus balancing both good and evil
Darth Sidius is the worst sith lord ever, he has no good power
Not true!!! He planned the events that would unfold to evolve the death of the jedi, and the rebublic!!! He had everything planned out, he just simply told vader what needed to be done in his master plan. He might not of been the jedi destroyer in terms of battle but he was in terms of planning and scheming (like hitler). Order 66, Darth Vader, Death of the rebublic, destruction of jedi, clone army, secret identity, ect; were all completed by him. In my opinion he did what most sith lords dreamed of doing.
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Felix_Fett
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2006 5:18 PM
My writing might not of been top notch because I was writing in haste
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ahuggins
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2006 5:29 PM
to my knowledge no where in the movies does it state definitively that there are only 2 surviving Jedi (Yoda and Obi wan) those are just the only 2 relevant to the Skywalker story as they knew of Luke and Leia, no others to my knowledge did. So to say Vader killed all but 2 Jedi is jumping the gun a bit, the galaxy is a big big place and im sure with thousands of jedi the odds on finding all of them and killing them all off is pretty slim.
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ahuggins
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2006 5:32 PM
As for vader bringing balance to the force. The definition of balance is 2 things of equal mass or opposites or whatever you want to call it that cancel eachother out. So in a sense to bring true balance to the Force you would think that there either needs to be no more Jedi or Sith at all or and equal amount of power in both?? That what I would think anyways plus just because Sidious is dead and Vader too doesnt mean there is never going to be another Sith or Dark Jedi. Temptation is always there to turn a Jedi to the dark side, for Luke or any Jedi after him. Isnt that how the Sith began in the first place, rogue Jedi seeking new powers etc...
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elitus_won
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2006 7:15 PM
Will this argument ever end! Geez!
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Darth Kevinmhk
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2006 8:04 PM
Vader didnt bring balance, Anakin did.
GL himself has stated that.
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Jedivetro555
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date Posted: Jan 13, 2006 8:47 PM
yeah darth kevinmhk is right as soon as vader made the descision to kill palps he is no longer vader he is then anakin. but yeah ultimetley he does bring balance to the force by destroying the sith: hence destroying himself
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Rando1138
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date Posted: Jan 14, 2006 12:59 AM
Oddly enough, didn't Anakin bring balance to the Force in the middle of Ep.3? By the end of the movie, there were 2 Sith and 2 Jedi (that we know). 2 against 2 sounds balanced to me.
And (seriously, though) don't forget that Vader didn't die because he took the helmet off. The lightning attack he suffered protecting his son destroyed the suit, which is what killed him. When Luke protested taking the helmet off since he'd die without it, Vader said nothing can stop that now. Meaning, nothing can stop him dying, so might as well pop the helmet off and see Luke without the helmet.
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DarthDUDE84308
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date Posted: Jan 14, 2006 10:38 AM
yes ANNAKIN brought balance to the force not vader!!!! You are right .....
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Poohbear12
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date Posted: Jan 23, 2006 5:25 AM
I think you misunderstood bringing balance to the force. It has nothing to do with having an equal amount of Jedi and Sith. The force is everywhere, it would never be balanced if you went by that logic. In the prophecy, bringing balance to the force is destroying the Sith restoring the previous balance as Anakin does. As Lucas said in the documentaries, Anakin is the CHOSEN ONE, he does bring balance by destroying the Sith, not by leaving 2 Jedi, 2 Sith. Also, aren't Leia (though not trained) and Luke Jedi?
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