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Echoes from the Asteroid Field
by: anakinside1
date posted: Jul 06, 2006 4:39 PM  | 
updated: Jul 06, 2006 4:46 PM
"I've been dying a little bit each day since you came back into my life..."
"I've been dying a little bit each day since you came back into my life..."
Padme to Anakin in AOTC

Why Padme says this at this moment has always eluded me! I have come up with all kinds of half hearted explanations that involve premonitions of the future and ripples in the Force, but no theory I have come up with feels the least bit emotionally satisfying. What has always bothered me is that Padme is speaking about the past not the future. She feels that she is already dying, not that she will die. Padme is a character known for her strength. Outwardly, at this point Padme seems the same as ever. Despite her shift in wardrobe she is working hard to maintain a level head, she leaves the safety of the Lake Country to go to Tattooine, and persuades Anakin to come with her to rescue Obi-Wan. This is the image of a young woman who seems vibrant, confident, strong-willed, and independent. So, why this sudden admission of vulnerability? Why does she enter head long into an admission of love (other than the fact that she felt their lives were about to end anyway), while at the same time linking the feeling to an already dying self? Most of the time people associate new love with renewed energy and spirit, feeling it is a step into the light, not into the darkness.

Well, I have a new theory. This theory is linked to one of my previous blogs about the Skywalker Women, and then Angel wrote a blog inspired by Jedilily, that sparked some new thinking too. It's all wound up into something that may or may not work for others, but in the SW galaxy of my imagination it all makes sense. I think that what Padme was feeling was the death of her independent self. She could feel that to be in relationship with Anakin she would be giving 100% of her emotional self to that relationship, that her old sense of self would have to let go to make room for this new Padme who, instead of living "in and of herself," and for her ideals, would live for another person. For Padme to do this it would require a death of one part of her life and a rebirth into another, and that rebirth was as a Wife. This rebirth ushers in a whole new era of vulnerability for Padme. Her existence, her sense of self is for the first time tied to someone else, and that someone is both powerful and unstable. Padme knows this on some level. She loves Anakin but is "not blind to his faults" (ROTS novel), and she knows that becoming one with him means that her destiny will for the first time in her life be determined by someone else's. It is the first time in her life that who she is is, in some ways, out of her hands.

When I think of it this way Padme's physical death at the end of ROTS doesn't seem so sudden. Each step through AOTC is a step towards death for her. She herself dates the origins of these feelings not from actual attempts on her life, but from the re-appearance of a very grown-up Anakin. There is a part of her that has already died in order to be with Anakin at all, and the part that was left behind, or created, was a part that was not as resilient as what had been before. Padme as wife is vulnerable to the "slings and arrows" of Anakin's fortune. It is a tragic shift for her, but I'm not sure it's one that she regrets. She was true to her word. She was not afraid to die, and not afraid to die for him over and over again.


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Comments?

:)

  solo smelly
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 4:52 PM
Wow! That was a really good analysis. i've never thought of it that way. I thought that her words to Anakin before the arena was when she had finally given up and as her sister had told her in AOTC novel - to fall in love. And because she thought she was going to die she just gave in. Or something along the lines of that.

  solo smelly
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 4:55 PM
And also now since we know Padme's fate when she says I've been dying a little bit each day since you came back into my life..." I find it know that it takes a double meaning. One way was that instead of living "in and of herself," and for her ideals, would live for another person. For Padme to do this it would require a death of one part of her life and a rebirth into another, and that rebirth was as a Wife.

And the second meaning is that - since he's come back into her life, her whole life has begun dying as the choices that Anakin makes in the future will seal her own fate.
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Great blog! Hope i made sense!
jedilily1026
Years Matter Not (Gone Crazy...Be Back Soon)
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 5:00 PM
Great blog. Good reasons. Right up my alley. I now see other reasons why she might have been dying from the very moment she set eyes on him after those years of being apart.

I also think she felt she was "dying" b/c it was as a forbidden love. He couldn't marry, she was a Senator, definite conflict. What a dilema she was in before confessing her love.

anakinside1
Echoes from the Asteroid Field
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 5:01 PM
Thanks for your comments solo smelly! Those words are sooooo heavy with multiple meanings, and yes, you make sense!

On a separate note, you mentioned on another blog that "Anakin" means warrior. I was wondering in what language?
  The Great Emperor5
Palpatine's Sanctum
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 5:35 PM
Once again, an excellent blog! I had never realized this, and it is quite an insightful point. Well done!
  Zelaskowski
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 5:50 PM
Going along your train of thought, that her destiny would now be entertwined with someone else's, affected by someone else's choices, I have to add something. She has, up until this point, been fiercely protective of her people. First as Queen and now as senator. She has always put them first. Even putting her personal life on a back burner. She doesn't even admit this to herself. She doesn't realize she's even missing out until he shows up. Accepting her feelings for Ani will change her priorities and all her future decisions. She just can't be the person she has been once she admits these feelings to him. I would assume her feelings have already colored some of her actions and decisions. Love changes you irrevocably.
MomOf2YoungPadawan
Mamadala's Lair
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 6:00 PM
Bravo, bravo! *throws roses at feet*! :D I TOTALLY agree with you on this - not much to add do I....I was sitting here the whole time I was reading nodding my head and saying "yep...uh huh...right on...!" I guess great minds think alike! ;)

For Padme to do this it would require a death of one part of her life and a rebirth into another, and that rebirth was as a Wife. This rebirth ushers in a whole new era of vulnerability for Padme. Her existence, her sense of self is for the first time tied to someone else, and that someone is both powerful and unstable. This quote mirrors my thoughts almost to a "T"! Phenomenal analysis, AS1 !!!
MomOf2YoungPadawan
Mamadala's Lair
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 6:03 PM
She doesn't even admit this to herself. She doesn't realize she's even missing out until he shows up. Accepting her feelings for Ani will change her priorities and all her future decisions. Also well-said, Zelaskowski!! :D In the AOTC novel, it goes into detail about how Padme watches her sister's kids, almost yearning for a life like that. Sola also senses it, and when she meets Ani she instantly senses the bond bewteen he and Padme. I think that scared Padme a bit, and as you said Love changes you irrevocably.
  solo smelly
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 6:14 PM
Im glad you understood!

The name Anakin means 'Warrior' in the language of Sanskrit - i found it by going to wookieepedia.com and looking up 'anakin skywalker' its a great star wars site to find information.
  Kenobi-fan
The Jundland Wastes Journal
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 6:14 PM
That was a very elegant and sophisticated explanation, A1...I enjoyed that - nice job!
anakinside1
Echoes from the Asteroid Field
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 6:28 PM
The name Anakin means 'Warrior' in the language of Sanskrit

What an amazing example of synchronicity!!!! Thanks for that!

What a dilema she was in before confessing her love.

Yes, and also before even letting herself feel it!

She just can't be the person she has been once she admits these feelings to him.

Too true!

Bravo, bravo!
nice job!


:8} Aw, thanks guys! I've had so many ideas cooped up in my head for a year (before joining the site). It's fun to have a community to share them with!
  solo smelly
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 6:40 PM
Your're welcome! Looking forward to reading your next blog!

MTFBWY
  rj_peters
Memos from the Imperial Finance Department
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 6:55 PM
Well written and thought provoking. I agree with that since their love had to be hidden, it caused a bit of that 'dying' feeling. They never really got to have a normal relationship and that hurt her deeply.
viagoangel2
Were Anakin and Padme' really one?
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 7:09 PM
"I AM NOT AFRAID TO DIE".....
No, Padme' was *NOT* afraid to die and sacrafice herself for the salvation of others for Democracy. She was the most *powerful* and *persuasive* voice at that time in the Republic. Padme' to Anakin in AOTC novel, " My love for you is a puzzle Anakin, one I can not explain. Nor do I care. So before we die I just want you to know that I truly, deeply love you. " Something like that anyway, doing it from memory.
In references to Padme' leaving the *old life* behind and starting a *NEW* with Anakin.
She knew their relationship was a "No win situation" but nor could it be denied. As I have said before, " It is better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all." :x
viagoangel2
Were Anakin and Padme' really one?
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 7:22 PM
I'VE BEEN DYING A LITTLE EACH DAY SINCE YOU CAME BACK INTO MY LIFE.....
I have no doubt that she to knew that they (Anakin and Padme') were destined in some way to be together since TPM. On her royal cruiser heading for Coruscant, she covers little Ani with a blanket and begin talking about the temperature of space travel. He then gives her the japor snipet so she can remember him. She goes on to tell him that she doesn't need this to remember him and then she says, " Many things will change when we reach the Capital, but my caring for you will remain. " That whole hearted statement to me speaks of a future in the making. :x
  Zelaskowski
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 7:23 PM
I agree with you angel. I would just add, given Padme's personality, falling in love with ANYONE, even someone not "off limits" would have changed her drastically. She really was living for others until she gave in to her love. Never for herself. I think the sacrifice was intensified because of their uniquely forbidden situation, but the results would have been the same, if someone less dramatic, with anyone. She has always stricken me as an "all the way" woman. She does nothing without giving it everything she has. If it doesn't require her all, it isn't worth doing. (including love)
Sunnyskywalker
Sunnyskywalker's Star Wars Stuff
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 7:28 PM
Great analysis! She has a tough choice there: not being with Anakin is killing her because she no longer feels complete without him, but being with Anakin would mean deception and all sorts of bad things which also kill her.
MissPadme
Miss Padme's Naboo Love Nest
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 7:50 PM
You are so smart :). Thanks for a wonderful analysis of Padmé's character.

The analogy between falling in love and death is not new. It's been in literature for centuries.
amidalooine
The Emotional Galaxy
date Posted: Jul 06, 2006 10:03 PM
Such great thoughts, once again, anakinside1! But...um...kinda depressing??? As Miss Padme said, I've head this type of analogy before , though not quite so elegantly put. I have to wonder...does a man consider himself to be dying to self when he falls in love...when he gets married? Does anyone think Anakin was dying to self? Hmmmmm...most people think Anakin's devotion to himself was just getting started.

So I pose this question...why do so many see Padme as the martyr and Anakin as the demon?

...speaking as the devil's advocate...of course!...
anakinside1
Echoes from the Asteroid Field
date Posted: Jul 07, 2006 6:05 AM
The analogy between falling in love and death is not new. It's been in literature for centuries.

I'll have to keep a better look out for it!

viagoangel2
Were Anakin and Padme' really one?
date Posted: Jul 07, 2006 6:18 AM
WHY DO SO MANY SEE PADME AS THE "MARTYR" AND ANAKIN AS THE DEMON?
Ami, this is a perfect idea for a Blog entry, you should take it and run with it! As so many of (us) SW fans see this view of the 2, I on the other hand don't see this scenario. I see two people so madly in love living in 2 completely different *worlds* (same Galaxy :^O ) that no matter if they allow this love to bloom or decide against it, it's undeniable and leading in no other direction than to their demise. Along the destined journey to destruction, there will be sunny "blissfull" moments on the way.........:x :_| What a freaki'n *ROLLERCOASTER RIDE*
anakinside1
Echoes from the Asteroid Field
date Posted: Jul 07, 2006 6:22 AM
Ami the advocate, so many questions! Believe me I was depressing myself while writing it too...

I think it is possible for a man to die to self while falling in love, but I don' t think Anakin did.
At least not in any way he was aware of. I think his desires were so loud they drowned out any other thought.

why do so many see Padme as the martyr and Anakin as the demon?

I'm not 100% sure, but maybe because Padme is at this point more passive and Anakin is more aggressive? She is the trigger for his fear, but then he lets his mind run wild with it and basically destroys her. She is attacked by him and dies, while he turns into a monster.
anakinside1
Echoes from the Asteroid Field
date Posted: Jul 07, 2006 6:26 AM
Ami, this is a perfect idea for a Blog entry, you should take it and run with it!

I was thinking the same thing!

no matter if they allow this love to bloom or decide against it, it's undeniable

That's an interesting idea too. It's sort of like, no matter what they may have decided there was already a ripple effect. Perhaps if Padme had not decided to admit to her love, Anakin would have fallen to the darkside because of being unattached and not knowing how to live in that state.....
  padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Jul 07, 2006 6:57 AM
Another great entry AS1...and a great analysis. I never really thought of this that way before, but it does make sense the way you explain it. I really do no have much else to add to what has already been said. :)
  cbern
Omega Squad's 5th member
date Posted: Jul 07, 2006 8:30 AM
great thinking, as1, i never really thought much on this quote before

She was not afraid to die, and not afraid to die for him over and over again.

that is true, but she may have been a little too loving

despite all the care she gives anakin, he still turns on her, and kills her

  darthwannabe33
date Posted: Jul 07, 2006 9:57 AM
She was not afraid to die, and not afraid to die for him over and over again.

that is true, but she may have been a little too loving

despite all the care she gives anakin, he still turns on her, and kills her


It seems that the people we hurt the most are the people we love the most, because we know they will still love us despite our failures, because they love us unconditionally.
  Darth_Chick
Wonderful girl. Eithor I'm going to kill her or I'm begginning to like her (Blog Closed)
date Posted: Jul 09, 2006 1:59 PM
great blog!!! I didn't get a chance to read all the comments, but here is my very humble oppinion:

It is a tragic shift for her, but I'm not sure it's one that she regrets I never thought of it this way, but I think your right. it makes me think of how it's better to have love and lost then to never have loved at all. She didn't regret her death for him. she would have died any day of the week for him. she regretted his death, because he no longer loved her. you're right.

exellent blog!
Qui-Tom Servo loves Padme
You Must Unlearn What You Have Learned
date Posted: Jul 10, 2006 3:40 PM
Very thought provoking. I've been reading all sorts of blogs today from many of you on this thread that have got me to thinking about this. There may well be more to come in the future.:D
  Darth Dan X
Dan's Addiction
date Posted: Jul 11, 2006 4:30 AM
My take on it was that, like you said, Padmé was strongwilled, independent, and always in control of her life and her emotions. Anakin changed everything for her. Despite the facade she at first displayed (who would have known she felt that way about him?), they way his voice, his looks, or his presence were able to affect her wrested away her own control of self, as her feelings disagreed with her level-headed mind.

Also, the "dying a little each day" could have also been from an ache of the heart in what she would know to be a love that could not exist; starcrossed between a senator and a Jedi hopeful.
  Jedimasterpheobe
date Posted: Aug 02, 2006 9:40 AM
I thiink Padme Said that becoz she knows that the only waii for her to bee wiif Anakin iis for iit 2 bee a secret . I thiink she diidnt wont 2 put Anakiin thought the paiin of haviing 2 choose between her the women he loved or beiing a jedii the job he loved so much . And especiially after she told hiim that they couldnt bee together becoz of thiis & becoz there just about 2 diie anywaii & Anakiin saiid dont be afraid that she wasnt afraiid becoz she has been diieing becoz theycouldnt bee together !!!!!!

And she had already seen anger iin Anakiin & she wiis doiing iit for hiis own good becoz she know tht maybee beeiing wiif her & iit beiing would driive Anakiin mad iif anyfiink ever happened 2 her!!!

  Jedimasterpheobe
date Posted: Aug 02, 2006 9:45 AM
heyya me agaiin!

ii also think tht iif anyfiink happened 2 Anakiin liike iif he wiis kiilled juriing the war that maybe she saw comiing wiif wht had been happiingiing becoz iim sure tht Anakiin would bee gettiing updates of wht wiis happiing from the counsiil or maybe Padme her self wiis gettiing updates from the Queen so she thought tht iit would bee easiier 2 handle iif he wiid just a friiend that she cared a lot about & not her husband the man she loved

Just a thought
  Fish1941
date Posted: Aug 10, 2006 3:55 PM
I think it is possible for a man to die to self while falling in love, but I don' t think Anakin did. At least not in any way he was aware of. I think his desires were so loud they drowned out any other thought.

I think that Anakin did die. He just didn't die physically. He died in the worst possible way, when he became a Sith Lord. Padme wasn't the only one who surrendered to herself. After all, Anakin finally wanted to be open and honest about their relationship. Padme didn't, due to her own fears. And in the end, Padme's fears won.
jediprincess77
I Know...
date Posted: Jan 14, 2008 8:53 AM
I needed a little pick-me-up this weekend, so I was browsing through some of my favorite bloggers' past entries. This one...whew, really got to me.
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