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 | Anakin's Feminine Side |
 Ever since I wrote my blog about the Skywalker Women I have been bothered by a nagging lose end. All of the seven goddesses I spoke about found an amazingly well-aligned expression of their archetypal selves in a particular female character in the saga except for one - Persephone. While Leia is given that role in terms of the plotline our princess in the GFFA never reacts to her situation like a vicitm. She is a battle ready Athena more than a naive Persephone. It seemed that Persephone was no where to be found, until, finally, it came to me. I'd been looking for her in the wrong place. The goddess of spring was not to be found among the women, because the closest ties to this particular goddess were among the men, and more specifically with none other than Anakin Skywalker.
Now to refresh your memory Persephone is one goddess with two distinct phases to her life. She is at first a naive, young maiden wandering through meadows picking flowers. One day as she bends to pick a narcissus the ground literally rips open. Hades rises up from the underworld and drags the maiden down into the darkness where he rapes her, and makes her his unwilling bride. Demeter, meanwhile, Persephone's devoted mother, falls into a deep depression during which time nothing on earth will grow (winter). Zeus finally sends Hermes, the messenger god, to bring Persephone back to her mother and the world above. Before leaving Hades, however, Persephone has already eaten a few pomegranate seeds, the food of the underworld. Such an act requires her to spend half the year in Hades and the other half above with Demeter. It is through her abduction and the eating of the fruit that Persephone begins her second phase - Queen of the Underworld - as such she becomes the guide of many who must pass through Hades.
The similarities are astonishing. First, in SW, the Chosen One's character also has two distinct phases. First there is Anakin Skywalker the young, impressionable boy who is very attached to his mother (and then to his wife who also mothers him). Most people when watching ROTS find themselves aware of the fact that Anakin becomes Darth Vader not out of purely evil motives but out of confusion, and even naivety. Anakin does not walk into the underworld with his eyes wide open (as Palpatine does), but is manipulated into it by a being with much greater self control and understanding. As GL said we find in Ep. 3 that "the villain is really the victim." Just like Persephone Anakin is "abducted into Hades." He is dragged down to the darkside and overpowered not physically, but mentally and emotionally. However, once there both Persephone and Anakin act in such a way to seal their own fates. Persephone willingly eats the pomegranate seeds, and Anakin willingly commits horrendous acts of murder. Once these lines have been crossed even a messenger as fast as Hermes or as concerned as Padme couldn't get there in time - it's just too late - darkness will be a part of their lives forever.
The symbolism in mythology, as in the GFFA, is rarely wasted. I find it interesting that Persephone is dragged into the underworld as she reaches for a narcissus - a flower named for a being so caught up in himself that the results are devastating - for that is Anakin's contribution to his downfall as well. Self absorption, a near complete dependence on another person for emotional well being, and naivety (a dangerous combination) are all present in both Anakin and Persephone at the time of their fall.
With Persphone gone the world whithers - with the birth of Vader the Republice dies. It is only with the return of Persephone and the Re-emergence of Anakin that the "dark times" end. However, even though spring and sunlight return to our world and the GFFA, both Persephone and Anakin are forever changed by their encounters with the dark side. Altered, and also deepened, Persephone becomes a guide through the underworld. Having mined its depths herself Hades is no longer so much darkness as depth. It even gives her a new sort of beauty that others begin to desire. But what of Anakin? He dies so quickly after saving his son that there is hardly time to see what guidance he might give to his children (even as a shadowy, blue force ghost) after such a journey. I have to admit I was stumped by this question for a while. Then I began to realize that if Vader is a guide through the underworld it is not so much for other characters in the GFFA, but for those who watch it. I can't tell you how many times I have looked to Vader's story to help me understand the depths of my own darkness. How many times I have thought if Vader can make his way back to his soul then I can too. I soak up every detail from the fall to the redemption in the hopes of spotting a missing piece that will bring some part of myself out of the shadows and into the light. Thanks to the blogs I know I am not the only one who does this! I am grateful for my guide and the guidance his story brings.
It has also been good for me to see how a masculine character can contain such a feminine archetype. I have always wondered why I identify with Anakin more than any other male character I've ever encountered. I think part of that reason is we share an archetypal link - through Persephone. I too have been "abducted into Hades," and during those dark times, in a stunning instance of synchronicity, found myself developing a taste for pomegranates! The symbolism was lost on me then, but now I am amazed at how thoroughly I played the role of the naive, young person unknowingly sealing her fate. I have been through the darkness, I am willing to be the guide, but before that day comes I still have much to learn.....
Thanks for reading everyone! I really appreciate your presence and your comments. I don't know how I survived all of those lonely months before the blogs with so many SW thoughts and no one to share them with!
May the Force be with you all.....
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viagoangel2 Were Anakin and Padme' really one?
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date Posted: Jul 19, 2006 6:50 PM
WOW!! This absolutely floored me AS1. The similarity is uncanny but it's truly there.
Anakin was manipulated to think the reverse of everything he knew and had learned.
So what was normally right had become wrong and visa versa. Amazing, yet *chilling* great comparison! Angel
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hansgirl3 Invoking the Squee
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date Posted: Jul 19, 2006 6:51 PM
Wow, AS1, once again a truly phenomenal blog!
What thought you put into this (and research).
I think you are correct in finding so many similarities between Persephone and Anakin, it's uncanny! They both truly walked through Hades. Thank goodnes Anakin had the good sense to eventually make it back to the "light".
Excellent blog! I look forward always to your next one! 
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Jedi Arwen Skywalker
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date Posted: Jul 19, 2006 7:08 PM
Wow, wow, wow... You are amazing and so is this blog! I'm going to have to meditate on this one...
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anakinside1 Echoes from the Asteroid Field
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date Posted: Jul 19, 2006 7:37 PM
Anakin was manipulated to think the reverse of everything he knew and had learned.
So what was normally right had become wrong and visa versa.
Well said, and thanks for the comments!
I look forward always to your next one!
Likewise!
I'm going to have to meditate on this one...
If any new realizations come I hope you'll let me know!
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jedilily1026 Years Matter Not (Gone Crazy...Be Back Soon)
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date Posted: Jul 19, 2006 7:58 PM
Very well thought and expressed. I found this a "great" tread. I also identify with Anakin's character more than any other. I must keep on meditating & one day I'll be able to put my feelings why into words.
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anakinside1 Echoes from the Asteroid Field
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date Posted: Jul 19, 2006 8:01 PM
I must keep on meditating & one day I'll be able to put my feelings why into words.
I'd love to read them. I must say I am very interested as to why so many women identify with Anakin. I think this is part of it for me, but not yet the whole picture, I think there is more in there waiting to be found.
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Jedi Master Mina Another Galaxy, another time
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date Posted: Jul 19, 2006 8:48 PM
You have done an awesome job researching the greek mythology and its comparisons to Star Wars.
How many times I have thought if Vader can make his way back to his soul then I can too.
And you will... Trust me. I, too, have been in darkness, but was able to see the light and crawl out of the black hole I fell into. It was work and pure hell, but I fought back with love and support from my family and rebuilt my life.
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Jedi Master Mina Another Galaxy, another time
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date Posted: Jul 19, 2006 8:53 PM
I soak up every detail from the fall to the redemption in the hopes of spotting a missing piece that will bring some part of myself out of the shadows and into the light.
That "piece" or "sign" as I like to call it will be an insignificant moment when it happens. I can't describe it and you won't notice it either, except down the road when the picture is clear for you to see. Good things will start happening, one step, one moment and one minute at a time. Than you will look up and think "what the hell happened? Things are shiny again". An amazing revelation when it happens.
Best advice: Blog about something funny and silly. It will make you laugh, giggle and cry all at the same time. Sure feels great in the end.
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anakinside1 Echoes from the Asteroid Field
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date Posted: Jul 20, 2006 4:03 AM
And you will... Trust me. I, too, have been in darkness, but was able to see the light and crawl out of the black hole I fell into. It was work and pure hell, but I fought back with love and support from my family and rebuilt my life.
It is a lot of work. Things are better now, but I am still trying to grow and learn from my experiences. One of the best things the saga has given me is meaning - I used to feel like I was from an overly-sanitized strip mall culture with no depth. Now I see there is meaning everywhere as these ancient stories are reflected through us over and over and over again.
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anakinside1 Echoes from the Asteroid Field
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date Posted: Jul 20, 2006 4:03 AM
Blog about something funny and silly.
To be honest I think I might be afraid to! But I will give it a try.... Oh, wait there is no try!
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LTjedijunkie
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date Posted: Jul 20, 2006 6:17 AM
I just want to say- fabulous blog... really great!
I love the stories of ancient mythology and you paralleled Anakin's story so beautifully.
MTFBWY
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padmeskywalker77 Padme's Legacy
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date Posted: Jul 20, 2006 6:41 AM
This was a great connection here, AS1. It is amazing how well Anakin "fit" with the female persona of Persephone. I find myself identifying a little with Padme' and a little with Anakin. At different times in my life one comes forth more than the other, but they're both there.
Blog about something funny and silly.
It's really not that bad  . I'm actually trying to work on one right now (well...not exactly right this minute), and it will hopefully be up soon. Take that chance. It may feel "out of character," but it does feel pretty good.
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cbern Omega Squad's 5th member
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date Posted: Jul 20, 2006 8:42 AM
WOW!! This absolutely floored me AS1
me as well
very good job, i can see the similariteis also
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Qui-Tom Servo loves Padme You Must Unlearn What You Have Learned
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date Posted: Jul 20, 2006 9:30 AM
Another thought provoking blog. One of the things I've found with Star Wars is that while I've grown older, the saga has come with me. I now enjoy the saga on a more "intellecutal" level than I ever could have as a child, yet I can still have fun with the action and humor throughout the series.
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anakinside1 Echoes from the Asteroid Field
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date Posted: Jul 20, 2006 2:27 PM
I'm actually trying to work on one right now
I look forward to reading it!
while I've grown older, the saga has come with me.
It's so true. As a kid I loved to play SW, but it was only as I grew that I realized its depth. There are so few things in life that do that. I think that's why SW can really cross generations in a way little else does. Sometimes when I watch it I feel like a kid again, and sometimes I feel like an archeologist who's just found an ancient civilization hidden under a pop phenomenon.
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ewanandhaydenfan5 I Have You Now!
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date Posted: Jul 20, 2006 6:00 PM
Wonderful entry! I used to be into mythology, although I haven't re-visited it in a while. You integrated Persphone's and Anakin's stories very well.
I can't tell you how many times I have looked to Vader's story to help me understand the depths of my own darkness.
That's the beauty of Ani/Vader's story. Even though we can't relate to the time and place of the GFFA, we can relate to Ani's fears and struggles.
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JediMelindaWolf Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
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date Posted: Jul 20, 2006 9:24 PM
what an awesome blog!
. . . if Vader is a guide through the underworld it is not so much for other characters in the GFFA . . .
While I agree w/the second part of your statement (not copied), I think Vader/Anakin really was a guide for other characters (especially Luke), especially in the EU. Luke tries to understand who Anakin (the man who was his father) was, and how he became DV. As Luke gains a stronger sense of who his father was, who he became, Luke gains a great deal of insight.
There are, afterall, different ways to teach, to guide. V's/A's was just a bit different than most.
MTFBWY
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anakinside1 Echoes from the Asteroid Field
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date Posted: Jul 21, 2006 3:29 AM
Even though we can't relate to the time and place of the GFFA, we can relate to Ani's fears and struggles.
So true. In such an alien world the emotional themes are still very close to home.
Vader/Anakin really was a guide for other characters (especially Luke), especially in the EU.
Thanks for that! Which books do you think explore this theme the most? I'd love to check them out.
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JediMelindaWolf Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
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date Posted: Jul 21, 2006 7:49 AM
Which books do you think explore this theme the most?
Let me reexplore a few of them (I'm not talking about rereading them. Just perusing a few of them). I'm always amazed at how some fans have (at least what appears to me) photographic memories when it comes to what they read in the SW novels. While I remember bits and pieces of the books, unofrtunately I can't say "this . . . happened/was said in such and such novel."
Another point to consider? One can be a guide, so to speak, by being someone you don't want to emulate/copy. Luke wanted neither himself nor the Jedi Order to repeat the same mistakes his father did. Thus, A/V acted as a teacher. Does that make sense?
MTFBWY
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anakinside1 Echoes from the Asteroid Field
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date Posted: Jul 21, 2006 12:37 PM
Does that make sense?
Absolutely. And I agree that the mistakes of the previous generation became the lessons for the next. One reason I kept my thoughts in this entry focused on what happens in the films is that the EU is so big, and while I have some knowledge of it I know that there are many fans out there with more. I am interested in what happens, but can't comment too much on it yet.
I have to admit that my dream for what happens next with A/V is that he appears to Leia in a more substantial way than in Truce at Bakura, and helps Leia understand her mother and learn how to forgive him.
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JediMelindaWolf Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
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date Posted: Jul 21, 2006 9:15 PM
AS1, I know what you mean about the EU (it makes sense you opt to refer to the movies only, especially since there are plenty of fans who don't read the books following ROTJ), but they are fun reading (if one can find the time!). Quite frankly, I've run out of shelf space!
One interesting subplot in the three-book Dark Nest series (which takes place more than 20 years after ROTJ) is that Luke becomes aware of a recording R2D2 made . . . on Mustafar. I won't say anything more, in case you should ever read the trilogy.
I will page through some of the books I'm pretty sure deal with Luke and A/V over the course of the next few days (it may be longer because I might be going out of town).
MTFBWY
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anakinside1 Echoes from the Asteroid Field
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date Posted: Jul 22, 2006 6:16 AM
Luke becomes aware of a recording R2D2 made . . . on Mustafar.
That sounds too good to pass up!
I will page through some of the books I'm pretty sure deal with Luke and A/V over the course of the next few days (it may be longer because I might be going out of town).
Wow, thanks for taking the time. It's really kind of you to do that. If you do go out of town I hope it's to someplace fun!
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jkelly There Is No Conflict
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date Posted: Jul 22, 2006 11:06 PM
Much like Wayne, I must profess that "I'm not worthy"
I don't know that I can write another blog after reading this one.
It is a cyclical story, though, isn't it? Would the seasons on the many worlds in the SW galaxy also track Anakin's story? Does this mean that Persephone is the central god(dess) in ancient mythology? Food, shelter, and so many other essentials are dependent on her behavoir in Hades, aren't they?
Here's a chink, though (at least in my read of the PT): she ate out of weakness whereas Anakin always sought such fame/ power.
Either way, I'm going to have to do some deep thinking.
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anakinside1 Echoes from the Asteroid Field
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date Posted: Jul 23, 2006 5:02 AM
I don't know that I can write another blog after reading this one.
But then where would I go for a good time? And to have my patience tested ("Padme's Not so Great")
It is a cyclical story, though, isn't it?
Yes, but I think also no. I have come to find that these stories have many versions all of which are true. There is a part of the story which says that she goes home to her mother and then we have spring and summer. But whenever another character goes looking for her in Hades (no matter what the season) she's always there. There's never a sign that says "Sorry, gone home to mother."
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anakinside1 Echoes from the Asteroid Field
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date Posted: Jul 23, 2006 5:11 AM
As for being a central goddess again yes and no. One of the interesting things is that with so many dieties everyone's essential, and if Demeter hadn't allowed herself to fall into a depression winter wouldn't have happened. Persephone is important though, a main part of the Eleusinian Mysteries which was a major religion of the Greeks for 2000 years (BTW I am totally referencing my mythology books right now)
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anakinside1 Echoes from the Asteroid Field
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date Posted: Jul 23, 2006 5:19 AM
Here's a chink, though (at least in my read of the PT): she ate out of weakness whereas Anakin always sought such fame/ power.
Yes, while part of Anakin is influenced by Persephone it is not his only influence. Persephone is not known for being an ambitious archetype. More an "I will do anything that you ask." sort of facet to a person. I think I will have to study the male figures to see which archetype might guide ambition. However, Anakin's search for power, was really just an emotional smokescreen for the reason for his search: fear. And what was he afraid of? Losing his mother/mothering wife. Like Persephone his sense of Self was attached to someone else (at first).
Thanks for your comments jk!
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padmeskywalker77 Padme's Legacy
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date Posted: Jul 25, 2006 3:38 PM
Yes, congrats on making Featured Blog of the Day!!
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freshprice1694
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date Posted: Jul 25, 2006 4:29 PM
great job!!!!
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anakinfan913
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date Posted: Jul 28, 2006 8:44 PM
I'm a bit late (the power cord on my computer was shot - no SW for almost a week ~shudder~), but this is truly a great blog! I love reading your stuff, it's always very thought provoking.
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jkthunder Seven Pieces
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date Posted: Aug 04, 2006 12:38 PM
Hi! Wow, am glad these comments aren't closed yet - and I love these blogs. I haven't looked at clasical mythology much since high school, and you're inspiring me to do so again. I remember slighty different scenarios about some of the godesses, b ut basically the same story.
One of the overall factors I find interesting in the pantheon of gods and godesses is their duality, even within and otside of gender (does that make sense) - its sort of similar to the yin-yang thing, where each person can have feminine and masculine attributes that manifest. The mythological battles are symbolic of the internal struggles of humans, masc and feminine and otherwise. Even the great wars of gods and godesses portrayed are symbols of internal "war".
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jkthunder Seven Pieces
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date Posted: Aug 04, 2006 12:43 PM
I totally agree that Vader is a guide to the underworld for the audience as you say, but - It seems amazingly clear to me that Vader was also the guide to the dark side for Luke. Vader was the key that brought Luke inside the circle of the Emperor, where Luke learned more aout the inner workings of the dark from Vader and Sidious. It was Luke's heroic story to have not been tempted by the dark, but instead to learn from it and "triumph" over it for himself, his father and the galaxy.
I've been abducted by Hades too BTW.
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anakinside1 Echoes from the Asteroid Field
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date Posted: Aug 04, 2006 1:48 PM
attributes that manifest. The mythological battles are symbolic of the internal struggles of humans, masc and feminine and otherwise. Even the great wars of gods and godesses portrayed are symbols of internal "war".
Absolutely! That's what makes SW fascinating too. I've been toying with the idea that balance in the Force means a balance of masculine and feminine, but it's not clear enough to write about yet.
It seems amazingly clear to me that Vader was also the guide to the dark side for Luke.
Nice insight on that one.
I've been abducted by Hades too BTW.
Has Vader been your guide out too?
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JawaJoey Return of the Jawa
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date Posted: Aug 13, 2006 6:44 PM
Wow, great blog. I've loved Greek/Roman Mythology, but I never even thought to compare it to Star Wars like you have. And you're absolutely right about Anakin and Persephone. That's a great insight.
And as to Vader being a guide, although he personally did not become a mentor to Luke, just his story and Luke knowing it served as a warning and guide, just like his Story has guided you without him ever personally talked to you in Blue Ghost form.
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Sunnyskywalker Sunnyskywalker's Star Wars Stuff
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date Posted: Aug 16, 2006 3:49 PM
Awesome blog. Fascinating and insightful.
Now I'm thinking about that fruit Anakin and Padme eat in AotC. I've seen it compared to the forbidden fruit Adam and Eve eat, which is a comparison that defnitely works, but maybe it also has some things in common with that pomegranate.
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anakinside1 Echoes from the Asteroid Field
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date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 5:58 AM
just like his Story has guided you without him ever personally talked to you in Blue Ghost form.
Well, there was this once.... Just kidding. That would be going of the deep end of fandom!
Now I'm thinking about that fruit Anakin and Padme eat in AotC. I've seen it compared to the forbidden fruit Adam and Eve eat, which is a comparison that defnitely works, but maybe it also has some things in common with that pomegranate.
Nice connection. I bet there's probably some kind of link between the two types of forbidden fruit in our galaxy as well. In both it's the woman who eats, and in both it is a sort of "death sentence." Though Persephone becomes a queen whereas Eve simply falls.... very interesting.
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