If I see one more person say 'But Anakin was created by the midi-chlorians, Qui-Gon said so in Episode I'....

Ugh. What a weak, stupid, whiney arguement. First, he didn't actually state it, he said 'it is possible'. Then, he didn't have all the facts to go on himself anyway. How was he to know the 'Legend of Darth Plagueis'?

To quote one of my comments from below, Qui-Gon would surely have made this assumption as it is 'most logical [explaination for] a Jedi. You find someone gifted in the Force you arnt going to immediatly think 'A Sith created this child' are you?'

These are comments I posted at the following blog, but comments were closed and I took so much time constructing this arguement and I'm interested in seeing peoples' opinions. Don't bother commenting if youre just going to say 'But Qui-Gon said Anakin was conceived by Midi-Chlorians' because what makes him so infallable? If the Force itself had somehow said 'I created Anakin' then ok then, but it didn't did it?

And that's not to say I think Palpatine said he did either, I'm completely undecided on the subject.

http://blogs.starwars.com/Palpatinefans/4

'I find it truely amazing how so many Star Wars fans think that interpretation doesnt come into it. I also find it amazing how so many state their opinion as fact.

After first watching the movie I thought, despite not wanting to believe it, that Palpatine had created Anakin. After reading this blog I was converted to thinking Plageus created Anakin, as if Palpatine had then he should really know where Anakin is. I think its safe to say that whether Palpatine knew about Anakin beforehand or not, after the Battle of Naboo he wanted Anakin as his Sith apprentice, assuming he turns out to be the Chosen One.

'Anakin was conceived by the Force itself as explained in The Phantom Menace.'

Yeah, and who said that? If memory serves me correctly, it was Qui-Gon. That was Qui-Gon's assumption. That would surely be the most logical choice to go down as a Jedi. You find someone gifted in the Force you arnt going to immediatly think 'A Sith created this child' are you?

Also, any good creator of a book, movie or tv show which features a prophecy will more than likely have it worded in such an engenious way that it is not exactly what it seems. It's the interpretation thing. Surely if you agree that the prophecy is correct in that Anakin is the Chosen One because of his murdering all the Jedi, you can be open-minded enough to believe that this prophecy doesnt actually say that this Chosen One was not created by the Sith. Even in RotS, Yoda says the prophecy could have been mis-translated or mis-interperated (I think, I might have made that bit up, but Im pretty sure its there somewhere. Regardless of whether Yoda said it or not, its still true, and its the whole interperatation thing again).

And someone said 'Why would the Sith create something that could destroy them?' The simple answer is they didnt do it on purpose did they? Perhaps they didn't even know of the Jedi prophecy, and Plaguis/Palpatine was simply trying to create a powerful apprentice. If it was Plaguis this would mean Palpatine would have to be killed before Anakin could take his place, and if Palpatine found out about this then perhaps that was a second motive for killing his master. Kill or be killed.

A final thing is I am of the opinion the whole Prophecy storyline was slightly ill-concieved as surely if the Jedi thought the Sith were extinct they would have forgotten about a prophecy which states the Force is out of balance. I think it would have made slightyly more sense if the Prophecy had been forgotten about and someone re-discovered it with the reemergence of the Sith. Though it doesn't matter either way really.

What's my stance on this? Well, to be honest, I'd like to believe that Anakin was created by the Force but I'm afraid the evidence is actually stacked more in favour of the Sith manipulation argument. The only thing really supporting the 'created by the Force' arguement are speculations of the Jedi, who we know have already been once coz they sure didnt see the Prophecy fortelling all of their deaths did they?'

Then, having posted all of the above, I notice jedi_bountyhunter22 had made another point. It's a real shame he brought in EU stuff, some people won't take note of his argument for that.

Quote jedi_bountyhunter22:

'Darth Plageus couldn't never have created Anakin...... for you see masters and lords that Darth Maul was trained by Lord Sidious since he was a small boy (according to the data banks here). Maul must have been in his late 20's when he fell to Master Obi-Wan. The timing isn't right for Pleagus to create him since he would've been dead for quite some time since Lord Sidious has been jumping from one clone body to the next for and unknown amount of years.

i believe that the prophocy (sorry spelling had a brain #### lol) was indeed correct that THE FORCE created Anakin not a Sith Lord......... '

My responce:

'I assumed Maul was trained since birth because the Jedi had no knowledge of Sith so he wont have been a Jedi defector like Dooku. So it's a good point: Plaguis couldn't have created Anakin. I think it's safe to assume Plaguis had to be alive to manipulate the midichlorins, and Sith can't keep form beyond the grave (deleted Qui-Gon scene). Someone may try and suggest that Plaguis did it before he died, I ask are you seriously suggesting Shmi was expecting for more than 10 years at least?

Though this doesn't rule out Palpatine having created Anakin.'

I don't know if I'm really allowed to post comments made by myself or, more importantly, others in my own blog. I don't see how quoting someone else's comment is any worse than quoting a George Lucas interview, nor can I see why I can't post my own words in my own blog.

So, if anyone has actually bothered to read this, as long as you arn't thinking 'But Qui-Gon said...' then I'm dead interested in hearing what your view on the subject is.