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The Force Is All Around Us
date posted: Jan 16, 2006 10:58 AM
It doesn't matter in Star Wars
Ok, I need to know something here. I want as many opinions as I can get. I have heard that some people don't believe that video games about star wars don't have any credibality in the Star Wars universe. That if it happends in a video game and not in the movie than it is not true. I have also heard the same thing about the Expanded Universe. Since it didn't happend in one of the 6 movies than it doesn't exist at all. So what does everyone else think about this?? Should we believe what we read in the EU books and what we play in the SW video games or should we just stick to the 6 movies and anything else is just rubbish.

  jedimasterninks
date Posted: Jan 16, 2006 11:04 AM
It can be interchangeable. But just cuz you don't see it in the movues doesn't mean it never happend. Most of it really happend, and a little didn't. Atleast that's what I think.
  Numéro7
date Posted: Jan 16, 2006 11:08 AM
As Lucas statet: ''The EU tells other stories than mine and I only concentrate on mine, but I'm sure that sometimes the right people can do some good things in my world."
I read that on another Blog, I forgot the the name ...
I personally take everything that is canonical with the timeline, so everything that does not contradict the movies or earlier sources. In fact you take what you want ! EU is there to enjoy, because Movies are SHORT and Kotor Rules
  nathanielobi1
date Posted: Jan 16, 2006 11:10 AM
In my opinion, it's up to the individual. I believe many aspects of the EU and the video games, but there are many things in each that I truly refuse to accept. For example, I have no problem accepting that Han and Leia have twin children together. That doesn't bother me at all. However, I refuse to accept that Palpatine was cloned, and Luke became a Sith and all sorts of other (as I would call it) nonsense. You may very well believe in all of it, or none of it, but I think it's up to the reader (or player).
  Lai-Gonns
date Posted: Jan 16, 2006 11:22 AM
I agree w/nathalielobi. If u have played Jedi Pwr. Battles, u'll find a zillion inconsistencies w/the original story, like Mace's "blue-bladed" lightsaber, not 2 mention that Mace never fought for the freedom of the Naboo and neither did Adi Gallia or Plo Koon. So, I guess it's up to interpretation.
The Dark Moose
Moose Poodoo
date Posted: Jan 16, 2006 11:43 AM
More importantly, bluejedi32 - what do you think about it?
  DeathDestroyer
date Posted: Jan 16, 2006 12:02 PM
i think that what happens in the video games and expanded universe. like how Mr. Lucas wrote ep. 7, but isnt directing, its about the time after ep.6 oviously:D . thats expanded universe. also i think they should make a series of amminated or somthing about the sith war and what not
  jedihooplah
A whole bunch of hooplah.
date Posted: Jan 16, 2006 12:03 PM
You seem to have heard mostly the ideas of Anti-EU persons. This is the basis of most seperation in the Star Wars community. People who think the EU is legitimate and canon and people who think its just spoofs. For an argument about it's legitemancy go here.
  Lai-Gonns
date Posted: Jan 16, 2006 12:12 PM
Ok, hooplah, I've read your blog and agree w/u. I like the EU, especially the novels, but like u said I don't think all of it has 2 b taken so seriously. I HATED Dark Empire, but love the NJO books, so again, I believe it's open 2 interpretation and believing what u want 2 believe.
  bluejedi32
The Force Is All Around Us
date Posted: Jan 16, 2006 12:17 PM
You ask me what I think, but people will flat out tell me I'm wrong for believing the video games goes along with the movies and other things like that. It just gets really frustrating. Sometimes I just want to bust a lightsaber in their chest you know. :D
  Darth Reklivek
date Posted: Jan 16, 2006 12:21 PM
The expanded universe is real in my opinion. but in some video games the outcome can be the exact opposite, like in episode three the game, you can play as vader, beat obi one, and rule the galaxy. One game that does have the story right is KOTOR and KOTOR II. not only are they some of the best games ever, they also follow the story. I do beleive that palpatine was cloned and luke turned to the darkside, I agree with all the expanded universe ideas.
  Darth_Starius
date Posted: Jan 16, 2006 12:29 PM
like everyone said is it is all based on interperation there are all lot of good things in eu like boba fett , but some stuff is out of controll im just glad i get to play or read about what happens before or after the starwars movies.
Hedec Ga
War Journal of Hedec Ga
date Posted: Jan 16, 2006 1:35 PM
EU - whether it be comics, fiction, video games - go with the movies unless it is otherwise noted as "Infinities". Also, fan fic and fan pics don't count, either...sometimes unfornuately. And that's official. Now, some people don't choose to believe that. They think it's only the six movies or nothing at all. Luckily, Star Wars works both ways. If it's just the 6 films, then you get a complete story. But if you believe what LFL says that EU is canon, then you have a much larger world.
Hedec Ga
War Journal of Hedec Ga
date Posted: Jan 16, 2006 1:36 PM
Way I see it, the EU has been confirmed by GL and his reps so it IS canon. Whether people choose to accept that is their own opinions, but it doesn't change the fact that the EU is here to stay, good, bad, what-have-you.
Hedec Ga
War Journal of Hedec Ga
date Posted: Jan 16, 2006 1:39 PM
Also, and I'm treading on thin ice here, I know, and don't take this the wrong way but...I can't agree with this "Well I accept NJO but REFUSE to accept the Young Jedi Knights series because I thought it was stupid." It's all part of the same continuity, regardless if it was good or not. That's like saying "Man, when I was 14, that was a crappy year of my life so I'm not going to count that as actually happening." :) :) I certainly don't like ALL EU that I've read, but I accept it as the way things have unfolded. And, until GL asks me what I would do differently, I'll continue to accept it, though I may not always agree with it.
  ...::::Jedi knigth::::...
Jedi Spot
date Posted: Jan 16, 2006 3:20 PM
Thats Like Saying That The Sarwars Game Starwars Episode III Is a Lie Because its a game ... its all True ...im not sure about EU .....
  jerkyaholic111
date Posted: Jan 16, 2006 3:34 PM
If you have the Star Wars Trivial Pursuit game, then you will realize that there is a lot of information that isn't in the movies. Names of characters, races, ships, vehicles, etc. can be found in the games and especially the books. Now, as for things being able to happen, like getting hit with a lightsaber and dying...no. But most of the things that can happen in a book or a video game can happen in the movies. The movies are just the first source of information. Everything else is definitely not rubbish.
jkthunder
Seven Pieces
date Posted: Jan 16, 2006 4:18 PM
yeah - its just simply up to the individual, what they choose to accept as star wars. and its pointless arguing with others about what they accept in contrast to you.
  jerkyaholic111
date Posted: Jan 16, 2006 6:39 PM
its like politics. after watching all six star wars movies, you realize that arguing is useless, because there is always someone better than you who will get what he/she wants, and you will get nothing... or you'll be dead
  ahuggins
date Posted: Jan 17, 2006 9:48 AM
None of it "really" happens, its fantasy, as far as saying the movies and everything else are separate thats a load of you know what. Alot of the EU stuff fits just fine, yes stuff contradicts here and there but big deal real history contradicts itself too when told from different points of view. Its all in you, if you enjoy the movies and EU stuff thats great alot of it is entertaining, dont let someone bash it and tell you its canon or non canon, who really cares what someone else says. Besides Lucas liscences this stuff and you cant tell me he doesnt have some kind of input or final say so based on that its all part of the same universe.
  bluejedi32
The Force Is All Around Us
date Posted: Jan 17, 2006 10:17 AM
Why do people say it is canon or it is not canon??? Where did that expression come from???:|
Hedec Ga
War Journal of Hedec Ga
date Posted: Jan 17, 2006 12:40 PM
If something is "canonized" it means that it had been made official by the Powers That Be. The EU that's canon is given the stamp of approval by LucasFilm as having actually happened in the Star Wars saga. If it's not canon, then that means it's a good read - or good play - but it's not what really happened. Like the Infinities comic or a lot of the stories in that Visionaries. It's kind of like an alternate reality to an alternate reality :)
  KetchHoel
date Posted: Feb 22, 2006 6:58 AM
If EU were not a part of the Lucas sanctioned universe, then it would not be displayed on Star Wars.com so prominently in the database.

For my personal opinion, I will always consider the EU, and most of the games as part of the official universe.

However, games like Galaxies without fixed plot lines.. they are hard to place into the universe because the same thing can happen in two opposite ways!
Games that have to clearly bend the rules like this, I am less susceptable to considering them to be official EU material.

Games like Knights of The Old Republic, X-wing Vs. Tie Figther, Tie Fighter, Jedi Knight, Dark Forces etc.. are awesome additions to the Star Wars EU.
  Oboe-Wan
Oboe-Wan's Hive of Scum & Villainy
date Posted: Mar 07, 2006 8:09 AM
I haven't really played many SW video games (item #327 on things to do in 2006 list) but I have just started to read EU. Seems to me that if EU is approved by GL, then it's "official." Fan fic, of course has no bearing whatsoever. Of course, someone will say no, EU doesn't count.

But, the way I see it, if you want answers about the MOVIES then you have to find them in the MOVIES alone. If you want answers about SW universe then EU is fine.
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