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date posted: Apr 23, 2008 12:52 PM | updated: Apr 23, 2008 7:59 PM

The downside of YouTube

Girl fights on YouTube - we've all seen them, Kevin and Olivia fawn over them and even my main man Bill Maher doesn't take them seriously - but it when it happens close to home, then you have to start re-evaluating how f***ed up we are becoming as a society.

Some of you may have met my little buddy, Travis, at C IV last year - he's a great kid, and his 14 yr old sister is equally cool - she's a straight A student and a sweetheart to boot.

So, imagine my anger when I heard that yesterday she was attacked by three other girls, while a bunch of punks stood around videoing it on their phones for YouTube.

She was hit on the head from behind and fell to the ground, getting knocked out in the process. That wasn't enough for these little b****es - they proceeded to kick her repeatedly in the head with their boots on - and when a teacher finally intervened (this all happened on campus), the girls started kicking him too.

Travis's sister ended up going to hospital in an ambulance, and she is severely beaten and has lost some hair.

These miserable specimens have picked the wrong victim for their attack though - Travis's dad is a police detective - and soon a huge police force swept into the school, rounding up the girls, confiscating phones and tapes - and they are now in some serious s**t.

Because they kicked her in the head with their boots that is considered a felony - good - I hope they get a f****ing criminal record and are permenantly expelled from that school district - you can guarantee that her dad will bring the full force of his influence down on them and their parents.

All this so that they can load a few seconds of crappy footage on YouTube - why are we fostering this attitude?

I'm not a violent man - but give me a few minutes in a room with those punks and all those who stood and watched, and I'll show them what a f***ing beating really is.

UPDATE

Thank you all for your words of support (I'll pass them along), and I am glad that you are all sensible enough to be similarly outraged.

My apologies for my burst of potty-mouth - it doesn't really belong on these blogs - but I was pretty mad when I wrote it.

Travis's sister (I'll call her 'L' from here on) was released from hospital last night, but had to return today for a second CT scan. No results as of yet, but L is sitting up and talking. The police took photographs of her bruises today - I sincerely hope these kids get the maximum punishment available for juveniles.

The family is pretty distraught and I haven't had a chance to speak to my apprentice, Travis, but I'll try to keep you in the loop - I'll probably give another update next Monday with the Dork Side.

Thanks again!

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	Corterville Yoda's House of Pancakes
date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 1:08 PM What a bunch of idiots. I hope they see some serious jail time, even the ones who stood around recording it. They attacked the teacher as well? Send these f*ckers to hell!

Tosche Station Manager
The Power Converter

date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 1:44 PM

Damn. It reminds me of the Jackass phenomenon. When all the kids with video cameras tried to repeat the stunts that the trained stuntmen were performing.

Some people upload fake clips of fights, other people upload clips of real fights, and before long kids are creating fights just so they can get their 15 second of internet fame, without considering the consequences. Truly sad.

gold5
I lost Tiree, lost Dutch!..or How I learned to stop worrying and love the Death Star.

date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 1:52 PM

Wow! Nob01. I think that is the harshest language I have ever from you. You have good reason so it is forgivable.

This kind of thing is getting too common now. As a rule I don't believe in any violence and this criminal behavior of all ages toward others is getting way out of hand. It is one thing for two people who agree to fight each other with some limits but to do it to someone against their will and worse to send them to the hospital from it.

gold5
I lost Tiree, lost Dutch!..or How I learned to stop worrying and love the Death Star.

date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 1:52 PM

Humans deserve to be able to go through life without fear of what some jack hole creep will do them. Not to be reactionary but I hope they get their deserved punishments. Kids need to think before they do something that will ruin the rest of their lives or that of others. If it happened to Abby I would forget my non violence stance very quickly I think.

I hope Travis' sister will recover well and quickly. My thoughts go out to her.

JediPug1
Like My Father Before Me

date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 2:05 PM

I'm with you, Nob... I've seen all these things on the news recently and it is insane. These kids are old enough to know better.

Try them as adults and send them to jail. In some cases I think the parents should be held responsible, too. Most kids don't just end up this way... it starts at home with lazy and ignorant parents who never should have had kids in the first place.

I pray Travis' sister recovers fully... and sees some justice done...

megatrends
Confessions of a Psychotic Jawa

date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 2:14 PM

I blame parenting, though some people have always been rotten and they just have more technology to exploit it imho.

When i was young there were 4 of us walking down the street and a car with two guys got out who were apparently black belts decided they would use us as practice. They got a little more than they bargained for but the experieince was disheartening to say the least.

Sh*t happens Neil ... not sure why but it does.

usetheforce19
MasterMonkey13

date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 2:17 PM

Now that just burns me up! That's just terrible, what people do these days. You have every single right to be angry. I sincerely hope that Travis' sister gets better soon. Be sure to tell her that everyone here loves her and is praying for her quick recovery.

Humans deserve to be able to go through life without fear of what some...creep will do them.

Exactly. We live in a scary world, a very scary world.

MTFBWY! God bless us all.

	darthgrievious93 Hey, Ho, Let's Go!
date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 2:27 PM Shallow scum. They don't even deserve to be charged, just send them to a place where they could endure suffering!

jedilily1026
Years Matter Not (Gone Crazy...Be Back Soon)

date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 2:28 PM

I understand your sentiments. I got mad as "heck" when I saw the beating the girl in Lakeland Florida got from 6 of her "friends" and I don't even know the girl. Now you blog about your friend getting beat.

Seems that kids now-a-days have no respect for others and most of the time I blame the parents just as Megatrends said. If one of my kids would have done something like that, my child would do better staying in jail because I would beat the crap out of my kid as soon as I could get my hands on he/she.

You can see...I was raised old-school.

	darthgrievious93 Hey, Ho, Let's Go!
date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 2:28 PM Their parents should endure worse!

	hansgirl3 Invoking the Squee
date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 2:30 PM OMG, Nob, I'm so sorry! Did they say whether Travis' sister will be ok? I don't understand what has happened to this world. It has changed so drastically just in the 40 years I've been around and it never ceases to amaze me (in a bad way, that is). Please keep us updated on how she's doing. And what they little dirtbags that did it are going to get...

	jedilily1026 Years Matter Not (Gone Crazy...Be Back Soon)
date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 2:36 PM Please keep us up-dated on this situation and I hope your friend comes out of this in an ok state. And I must know that justice will be done!!! The only way I can keep my faith in these stressful times is knowing that people who resort to violence will be punished!!

	Granny-Wan I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 2:57 PM These are very scary times, indeed. There's no respect for others anymore. And no fear of getting in trouble... from the poilce, the school, their parents... I hope the felony charge sticks and they all get jail time... and a civil suit against their parents ought to be in the works!

	gahmah80 Gahmah's Lair of Trauma (Blog Closed Due to Inability to Renew Hyperspace Account)
date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 3:15 PM I'm sorry about your friend's sister, and I do hope those b***es get served. Is it really that hard for them to control their own behavior?! It's called decision making*. I guess everyone has mental disorders these days, regardless of what geneticists say. (cont'd.)

gahmah80
Gahmah's Lair of Trauma (Blog Closed Due to Inability to Renew Hyperspace Account)

date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 3:18 PM

(cont'd.)

Mindless violence aside, I'm more disappointed in the spectators. I mean dammit kids! These people aren't beating the crap out of this girl for your entertainment! If these retards are so desperate for action, they should just to turn to "professional" wrestling or something. What's also worse are the kids recording it in hopes of making their "E-p****es" bigger. The people who post that BS should have both the video removed and their account permanently banned.

In truth, violence is only cool when it isn't real. Real violence leaves more traumatic effects than you might think.

gahmah80
Gahmah's Lair of Trauma (Blog Closed Due to Inability to Renew Hyperspace Account)

date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 3:31 PM

There's no respect for others anymore. And no fear of getting in trouble... from the poilce, the school, their parents...
Exactly. It shouldn't be that hard to follow simple rules/laws and control their hatreds/desires. Kids who inflict violence such as that are making it look almost as if it was actually the Communist Party that won the Cold War. (Before anyone overreacts and accuses me of Commie propaganda, I'll let you know I wasn't saying the Soviet Union won. Besides, the Red Scare ended long ago, so drop it)

	Jedidz23 Jedidz23's musings, anecdotes, and all around fascinating stuff! :)
date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 4:30 PM This is terrible and ugly on so many levels. Prayers are certainly needed for many, and I really am hopeful justice will be done. Truly, a disgusting display.

zach starwalker

date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 4:46 PM

I cant beleive these idiots. I'm right beside you on how they should be treated. And beating a teacher? How did that happen? Either these kids need some serious rehab(not the normal kind, the kind where they are handcuffed to a chair in a mental hospital next to someone knitting something that isnt there) or they need to go to jail and be charged as adults without bail. They must have heard about the other beating.

The people who post that BS should have both the video removed and their account permanently banned

Plus their IP address to every website known to man and their mac address so they cant get around it.

zam-eli
From the mind of ZAM-ELI

date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 5:20 PM

Humans deserve to be able to go through life without fear of what some jack hole creep will do them
i agree.it seems that the younger generation are going haywire...or worse. it is outrageous that these things happen more now than they did decades ago. it sickens me to know that some pre-teens are going out of hand in society.In a way I blame the parents for not setting walls as to what can and cannot be tolerated, and not setting their kids straight instead of spoiling them. as to the treatment, i believe that if they're old enough to think this way,and respond, they are old enough to be treated as adults. or they should be put on some program like hardcore bootcamp or something, somewhat harsh but will do them good.

	leia19886 Some One get this big walking carpet out of my way
date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 5:43 PM Nob -- as a gal whom works with kids, I know that not all kids are punks like the ones whom pummled your buds. The girls should be made to face the consequneces of their actions as an ADULT. Mabey, just mabey it would make just one or two kids somewhere else re-think their actions. God Bless you Nob and Travis will be in my prays Leia

Jade Sabre777
A luminous being, I am...

date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 5:45 PM

Wow Nob, I am so sorry!

I'll definitely be praying for you guys!

This is just sickening. What kind of moron hurts an innocent person just to get a few seconds or minutes of "fame?!" And why on EARTH would you want to be famous for THAT?!?! Really shows how stupid some people are nowadays and how little respect they have for eachother. I definitely agree that the parents are partly to blame. Still, kids always talk about how they want to be treated like adults and how they aren't little kids anymore, so I say, let them. Let them take responsibility. Let them be tried as adults and get adult sentences.

Jade Sabre777
A luminous being, I am...

date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 5:51 PM

Of course, then they'll just go whining to mommy and daddy that life isn't fair, and some idiot will stand up for them and condone their actions.

Well, I'm just glad her dad is a police detective so hopefully she has a better chance of getting justice, instead of those freaks just getting a little slap on the hands. And of course knowing that the punishment is small just encourages more crimes like this in the future.

Again, I'll be praying for you all. Let us know how she's recovering.

ewanandhaydenfan5
I Have You Now!

date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 6:34 PM

it starts at home with lazy and ignorant parents who never should have had kids in the first place.
I agree.

Why do these kids think that this behavior is tolerable?!?! Do they think there won't be any consequences?!?!

I'm so glad that Travis' dad is a police detective...serves 'em right. Throw the book at 'em, and then some.

I'm so sorry this happened, and I'll keep Travis' sister and the family in my thoughts.

usetheforce19
MasterMonkey13

date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 6:47 PM

What kind of moron hurts an innocent person just to get a few seconds or minutes of "fame?!" And why on EARTH would you want to be famous for THAT?!?!

Everyone is going to be remembered for something. It's up to them to decide if they'll be famous...or infamous.

Those kids will be responsible for their own actions, even if their parents haven't raised them well. They can't stand in front of the judge and say, "Wait, it's not my fault I'm an idiot; it's my parents' fault."

As others have said before, keep us updated.

Michelle1968
M68- Star Wars Kid at Heart

date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 7:33 PM

Oh Nob, this is just terrible. I read it with my hand over my mouth in horror. I am so sorry for your friend and how her family and friends must be feeling right now. I hope those girls get the most punishment possible...

The real punishment will be how they feel when they grow up. It'll replay in their minds over and over and over, and Im glad. They deserve it.

(((hugs)))

zach starwalker

date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 7:34 PM

or they should be put on some program like hardcore bootcamp or something, somewhat harsh but will do them good.

There was this thing my county did a while back. Most of the schools sponsored it for a while. It was called the Star program. Basically you had a military guy follow you around everywhere. Up at 5 am in bed at 8 or something. No internet or phone. It was nuts. But it worked. For a while. Then one of the kids went nuts and the state shut it down. It was a wonderful program. It showed the kids that they were worth nothing and showed them harsh reality of what would happen. Unfortunately the kid couldnt be forced into it without parents consent and most of the kids parents didnt care.

	nob01 Oil Bath Bubbles
date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 8:00 PM Thank you all for your kind words of support - I will be sure to pass them on.

	Darth_Hiram A Journey into The Force
date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 8:15 PM Nobby, this is absolutely disgusting behaviour from these kids and it makes me sick to my stomach that it's going on. As has been said, no person should have to endure any of this senseless violence and it needs to stop. I sincerely hope L and Travis are doing ok now, and my thoughts and support go out to them, and to you my friend.

jediprincess77
I Don't Know Where You Get Your Delusions...

date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 8:38 PM

I have a terrible, sick feeling in my stomach after reading this...sometimes I can't recognize the human race. It makes me so angry!!! Do they not realize what they are doing??? It's easier to imagine that being the case than these kids realizing and doing it anyway...

I'm glad to see that such action has been taken to make sure the kids responsible know exactly what they did and just how much they hurt little L. One bright light in all of this is that she has such support behind her...and now she knows that without a doubt.

I'll be thinking of her & all of you.

((((((L))))))

	The Stooge Star Wars Joke-A-Day
date Posted: Apr 23, 2008 9:33 PM Good Lord, that's screwed up. Easy enough to ignore it when it's on the news... but when it becomes someone you know... or someone close to someone you know. My prayers are with her, hoping for a full recovery.

	cowboy_11c Musings from the Shadowlands
date Posted: Apr 24, 2008 12:44 AM There's a special place in He!! for people like that. Let us know if L needs anything to aid in recovery and please continue to keep us posted on her progress.

ral_kleest
The Jedi Way: Preserving the Light

date Posted: Apr 24, 2008 5:10 AM

Unbelievable! My prayers for the family as well.

I won't presume to be able to diagnose the diseases of a society that leads to children perpetuating violence on each other for entertainment. Such behavior has existed for thousands of years of course, though not so much (I hope) among the young. Perhaps we just haven't been exposed to these horrors.

I find nothing but sadness in this attack, regardless of what future developments may come.

DJ Maul: Got Feet?
DJ Maul's Dancin' Cantina Party

date Posted: Apr 24, 2008 5:30 AM

Im SO saddened to hear this my friend; my best to L and her family at this time.

Im all about An Eye For An Eye...I say take these punks and kick them with their own boots....and while we're at it kick their PARENTS too.

Oh I could TRULY get medieval on their a$$es but as you said these blogs arent really the place for me to vent that stuff...

I truly truly hope L is Ok; please keep us posted on her health.

Is there a way perhaps we could send a card? Im sure that would help cheer her up.

	Hedec Ga War Journal of Hedec Ga
date Posted: Apr 24, 2008 7:39 AM This is despicable. Please pass my love and support on to your friend, nob. I've got a daughter myself and if some punk kids did this to her for a laugh on YouTube, hell would not be able to contain my wrath.

	Lord Harald The Council of Evil
date Posted: Apr 24, 2008 8:08 AM Whatever these girls get is too good for them. You have my full support, I have a couple of cousins about that age, and if something like that happened to them... no mercy.

comanderbly
That's Impossible. Even for a Computer.

date Posted: Apr 24, 2008 9:53 AM

I am very sorry to hear that this happened. I hope L gets better both physically and mentally, after such a traumatic event. I also hope some good comes out of it and the spectators and the attackers all get what they deserve. While I know nothing about you aside from the blogs I do know you are good people, nob01, and you will be able to help L get through this and be stronger for it, although no one deserves to go through such an ordeal.

	leia19886 Some One get this big walking carpet out of my way
date Posted: Apr 24, 2008 6:57 PM I'm happy to read the L is home. Here's to L and Travis getting mentally and physically better very soon! You take care and we will see on the Dork side soon

MissPadme
Miss Padme's Naboo Love Nest

date Posted: Apr 24, 2008 8:29 PM

I work for the DA's office in the juvenile branch and we get cases like these all of the time. There is a bit of copycat phenomenon going on, with kids recording fights and posting them on the internet.

Coming from the prosecution side of things, I can tell you that juveniles with no previous record almost always get probation and little to no jail time aside from detention after they are arrested. The system is designed to rehabilitate kids, not so much to punish them. Personally, I think there should be a bifurcated juvenile system that handles typical kid crimes like shoplifting and minor vandalism separately from violent ones.

MissPadme
Miss Padme's Naboo Love Nest

date Posted: Apr 24, 2008 8:40 PM

In any case, if I were to give advice to your friend's family on how to go about the criminal part of the case, it would be:

1. Cooperate with the cops.

2. Cooperate with the deputy DA/prosecutor. Don't complain about coming to court. Not coming could mean a bench warrant. Defense attorneys COUNT on victims/witnesses not cooperating and not showing up.

3. Don't be surprised if the case ends with an admission/plea bargain, most of them do.

4. Keep copies of all medical records and police reports, and photos if you have them. The court might order restitution, too.

jkthunder
Seven Pieces

date Posted: Apr 24, 2008 9:00 PM

What a travesty. It's hard to believe things like this can really happen. Even scarier to think that bullying has come to what it is today compared to when I was a kid. Do these kids even have parents who watch over them? Mentors? Anyone to look up to (aside from video games and youtube)?

Things like this kind of make the world seem hopeless, but rather than dwell on that I'd like to put my energy, hopes, and compassion towards little L.

padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy

date Posted: Apr 24, 2008 9:06 PM

Oh my, Nobby!! This is just horrible...and I don't blame you for being that mad. There really is no sense of respect or anything anymore and it is sad...especially when it comes to children.

Violence is everywhere...on tv, in movies, and in video games. This, in no way, should excuse anyone's behaviors. I hate seeing this happen to anyone...of any age (and I do see it in my work, unfortunately...especially to babies).

I'm glad to hear she is doing better...and I do hope there are no lasting physical effects from this. The mental/emotional effects will stay with her, and I hope they don't cause her too much distress in the future.

nob01
Oil Bath Bubbles

date Posted: Apr 24, 2008 9:35 PM

Thanks again to all of you who have responded to this.
I forwarded your comments to the family - and am now awaiting permission to share the latest news with you.

Miss padme - you truly are in a great position to know all about this - and as I mentioned, L's dad is a senior detective in the Bay Area, everything will be done not only by the books, but extremely thoroughly.

Thanks again to everyone - your words of support will mean a lot to them.

Sarlacc-Pitt
Slowly Digested Over A Thousand Blogs

date Posted: Apr 24, 2008 9:44 PM

OH my goodness, nob... I am truly so sorry to hear of this.... so sad and awful... Echoing what others said, I hope that L recuperates well and that the truly disturbed girls who did this get the punishment that they deserve. Reading this made me sick... I hope that the ******* that did this will feel that way someday soon, too....

All of my thoughts are with her and Travis, and their family.

	megatrends Confessions of a Psychotic Jawa
date Posted: Apr 24, 2008 10:31 PM Too bad it is illegal to draw and quarter any longer. Well maybe that is just a little bit severe.

Cousin Itt
You don't know how to fix the hyperdrive...!

date Posted: Apr 25, 2008 6:06 AM

Only just caught up with blogs as I've been busy this week...this is absolutely awful...I am really disappointed in society and that these things go on and worst of all scum of the earth like this actually get away with it.

I HOPE THAT THEY GET ALL THATS COMING TO THEM!!! and that they are made examples of.

My thoughts and prayers are with the family and of course I wish L a speedy and full recovery.

	Oriana Dantra
date Posted: Apr 25, 2008 10:16 AM I think it's REALLY sad when it comes to this in schools of all places! Unfortunately, this is happening all over the world. People need to start taking a stand about these things and actually changing society itself. She's really lucky her dad's a policeman or these people might not have gotten caught and punished. Remember : God sees everything

rappingrancor
Rappingrancor's Pit -- And No, I Don't Mean My Room!

date Posted: Apr 25, 2008 4:05 PM

What has the world come to when we can see these things every day on the news and not really care? I know personally that I tend to do that when I don't know the people, but Stooge's right. When this happens to someone close to someone you know, it truly hits you like a punch to the gut.

It's a sick and perverse world we live in. Let's hope that people like this see the errors of their ways -- or better yet, STOP IT BEFORE IT BEGINS!!!!

Some society. I hope those kids get what they deserve.

Your family is in my prayers.

Wherever the Force may guide you, God will bless you.

RR out.

	rappingrancor Rappingrancor's Pit -- And No, I Don't Mean My Room!
date Posted: Apr 25, 2008 4:07 PM Kriff, that sounded self-righteous. I apologize if I sound trite. Remember, God will always be there when you need him. Wherever the Force may guide you, God will bless you. RR out.

JediMelindaWolf
Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.

date Posted: Apr 27, 2008 11:42 PM

oh, nobby, I don't know what to say except that I am so sorry to hear that something so atrocious happened to this young girl. I am so sorry for this late post...I have been awol from the blogs for too long, and just learned of this today. I am outraged and saddened that something like this should happen to one so innocent. I hope she has a full, speedy recovery.

Which brings me to my next comment . . .

JediMelindaWolf
Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.

date Posted: Apr 27, 2008 11:48 PM

It never ceases to amaze me how stupid some people are . . .

Did they actually think they wouldn't be caught?

"Look at me! I'm committing a crime! I'm appearing in the footage! I'm putting it on YouTube!"

I think that in itself speaks volumes as to where these young ladies' brains were and are . . . suffice it to say not in their heads . . .

My best to L and her family.

(and there is no need to apologize for your "outburst". You were much more restrained than I would have been.)

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