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The Council of Evil
date posted: Oct 04, 2008 10:10 AM
The NEW Jedi Order
Recently, I posted a blog about my doubts regarding the old Jedi Order of the pre-Imperial era. That got me thinking. If I was to design a new Jedi Order in the way I think it should be, what would it be like? My Jedi Order doesn't resemble the old one too much, and I'm not saying this is a revolutionary new way so bare with me.

My Jedi army would be organized like a military army. Anyone can join, and everyone will start as recruits, training with blasters and vibroswords as well as meditating. The new recruits will be tested to see if they can be trained to become Jedi Knights, the elite commando forces of the Order. The ones who don't make the cut will be given the opportunity to serve in different ways throughout the ranks of the Jedi army.

Keep in mind that the infrastructure is more complex than I've written here, this is going to be a long blog entry, if I was going to write everything on my mind, it would take much, much more space (and your time to read through).

Army

Infantry

The core units of the Jedi army is the Jedi Soldiers. Armed with blaster rifles with lightsaber bayonets attached, they are lethal at both medium range and close quarter combat. They will learn as much they can about the force, the main focus will be on healing and sensing danger. The best of the healers will serve as field medics.

Armored forces

Tanks, ground transports, basically armored assault vehicles piloted by soldiers like the infantry. Will cooperate with the infantry in battle.

Support

Supply units, medical units and artillery that will support the infantry and armored forces with firepower and supplies, they will set up medical stations commanded by Jedi that will retrieve and treat seriously wounded soldiers.

A Jedi Master will command an army, and Jedi Knights serves as officers and spec ops forces. But regular soldiers can be promoted to officers as well.

Navy

Recruits that are more force sensitive than the infantry, yet not enough to become Jedi Knights will be pilots of fighters, air transports, gunships, bombers, support vessels and capital ships. The chain of command will be similar to the army, with Jedi Admirals and Captains. Well trained squads of soldiers commanded by Jedi Knights will be marines that boards enemy ships.

Jedi Knights

Those recruits that are accepted for training as Jedi Knights will receive basic training as Jedi, then they will specialize in different fields. But everyone will initially have a low rank and serve as low ranking officers in the Army and Navy. Those that are skilled in combat and stealth will be commandos that will sneak in behind enemy lines or assist the regulars when assaulting enemy positions. Discipline is important, everyone has their role and is expected to do their part to the best of their abilities. As the Jedi become older and more experienced, they'll ascend in the chain of command until they become masters.

Jedi Masters

Jedi Knights that started at the bottom and proved themselves worthy of more responsibility will eventually become masters, their role in the Jedi Army is the role of the generals and admirals. They command the armies and navies of the Jedi Army and plan battles. The highest ranking Masters sit in the Jedi Council, they elect their own members and appoint generals and admirals. They are the strategists that plan campaigns and decide which battles should be fought.

What would they be to the Republic?

The Jedi Army is loyal to the council, and take orders only from those with the authority within the Order. The Order takes missions on request from the republic. Through the Council, the Order would be loyal to the Republic, but would not engage in direct war with anyone on their own initiative. They would not be a political power in the senate, and their primary role would still be keepers of peace and justice.

Hope this wasn't too long or weird or anything. This is just the short version of how I would organize a new Jedi Order. I don't think I have the patience to write the long version though. And I left out the non-military role of the Order, which would be similar to the old one anyway. The Jedi would also be diplomats.

MTFBWY!

  Qui-Gon Reborn
The Fifth Dimension
date Posted: Oct 04, 2008 12:24 PM
Ahhh, I've been waiting for this! Finally!

Hmmm, great ideas, and somewhat similiar to the Roman army, but I think this sort of defeats the purpose of the Jedi as peacekeepers, rather than soldiers. It kind of tells the galaxy, "Alright, cut the podoo. We're soldiers, and you all know it anyway, and forget this 'peacekeeping' thing so we can fulfill our awesome potential!"
  Qui-Gon Reborn
The Fifth Dimension
date Posted: Oct 04, 2008 12:25 PM
If the Jedi really wanted to, they could assume the role of soldiers, and conquer the galaxy. But they're not like the Sith. In order to preserve peace, they really can't be like this.

But I love your ideas, anyway. :D

MTFBWY!
Lord Harald
The Council of Evil
date Posted: Oct 04, 2008 2:07 PM
somewhat similiar to the Roman army
:( I thought it was more similar to the Knights Templar.

"Alright, cut the podoo. We're soldiers, and you all know it anyway, and forget this 'peacekeeping' thing so we can fulfill our awesome potential!"
That's why there's so much focus on discipline, the soldiers obey the commanders, the commanders obey the council, the council acts on behalf of the Republic. Above all else is the Jedi code, who prohibits the army's potential as a marauding gang of thugs.

f the Jedi really wanted to, they could assume the role of soldiers
But not as conquerors.
  Qui-Gon Reborn
The Fifth Dimension
date Posted: Oct 04, 2008 3:40 PM
I thought it was more similar to the Knights Templar.

You're right, or the Knights of Malta, I suppose. I wasn't thinking. :8}

Above all else is the Jedi code, who prohibits the army's potential as a marauding gang of thugs.

I understand. But they'd have to seriously reign in those lesser members, who might want to claim the power or their superiors.

But not as conquerors.

Ok, I get it now.

MTFBWY! ;)
leia19886
Someone get this big walking carpet out of my way ...
date Posted: Oct 04, 2008 4:14 PM
Now, if the politicians would stay out of it you would have yourself a darn good military:)

hope you are enjoying your weekend!
Lord Harald
The Council of Evil
date Posted: Oct 04, 2008 6:20 PM
But they'd have to seriously reign in those lesser members
First of all, they would be trained in Jedi morals as well as combat. Then they would have a Jedi commander to restrain them if they were to get too zealous in their quest to vanquish their enemy. They would be almost brainwashed.

Now, if the politicians would stay out of it you would have yourself a darn good military
Military force is the extended arm of politics.
leia19886
Someone get this big walking carpet out of my way ...
date Posted: Oct 04, 2008 6:29 PM
Military force is the extenteed arm of politics.

I know. It's just that polititions sometimes forget to listen to the generals about how best to continue with the operation at hand.

nice blog btw
Lord Harald
The Council of Evil
date Posted: Oct 04, 2008 6:49 PM
It's just that politicians sometimes forget to listen
They need to think about what's going to get them reelected next year.
JediMelindaWolf
Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
date Posted: Oct 04, 2008 7:59 PM
Interesting.

MTFBWY :)
  cowboy_11c
Musings from the Shadowlands
date Posted: Oct 07, 2008 12:22 AM
Well, I think you have clearly defined the definition of a slippery slope. On the surface, at face value, you do have a point that an entire army of Force sensitives would indeed be formidable. However, when you get below the surface, the wheels fall off, IMO. First and foremost, how will the galaxy at large think of an army of Jedi? When a Jedi arrives on scene, the sundry cultures of the GFFA, for the most part, know that he or she is there to bring peace and stability to whatever situation is brewing. Most of the time this involves up to 2 Jedi: Master, and Padawan. cont.
  cowboy_11c
Musings from the Shadowlands
date Posted: Oct 07, 2008 12:30 AM
cont. To some beings, even 2 Jedi are too many. Now imagine a task force of battalion or brigade strength showing up in orbit. This may seem tatamount to an invasion. I realize that any army could be viewed as such. But the Jedi themselves are the epitomy of truth and justice, Superman with a lightsaber if you will. On the flip side, an army is used for one thing, and one thing only. Destruction. Causing personal injury and property damage on a large enough scale that the enemy will stop fighting and agree to your point of view. Not very Jedi like. And for the most part, this new Jedi army will not be fighting inorganics. cont.
  cowboy_11c
Musings from the Shadowlands
date Posted: Oct 07, 2008 12:46 AM
cont. There's been countless discussions involving what happens to a Jedi when forced to fight a war. What then will happen to Jedi whose sole existance is fighting a war? Also, how dangerous to have mere Force sensitives, not even full flegded Jedi, doing the fighting? Remember, the partisans fighting on Haruun Kal were Force sensitives, and that was a huge mess. I realize there were mitigating circumstances there, but it pays to keep that in mind. Interesting concept, however, and if these concerns could be addressed, could have an intersting impact on things. In the long run, though, I think it's more hassle than it's worth.
Lord Harald
The Council of Evil
date Posted: Oct 07, 2008 7:07 AM
an army is used for one thing, and one thing only. Destruction.
A very good point.

I guess the central theme of what your saying is that a Jedi Army would cause more problems than it solved. And in reality, the Jedi Army could be unstoppable, but I didn't intend it to be so large it could threaten the Galaxy in the wrong hands. It would be thousands of Jedi and force adepts, enough to fight single battles, but not the millions needed maintain an occupation of several planets. Galactic conquest would not be an option for the Jedi, good or bad. Then again, they would be able to overthrow the Senate and the Chancellor in a coup.
  cowboy_11c
Musings from the Shadowlands
date Posted: Oct 07, 2008 9:22 PM
True, but I don't see them as a threat to the Senate or law-abiding citizens. My point was how the galaxy at large would percieve them, especially those systems not part of the Repbublic, such as the Chiss, or the Hapans. I know Chiss military doctrine would prevent a first strike, but who knows how they would react to this. And the Hapans could feel extremely threatened by this. But you do bring up an interesting idea, and possibly may work as a trimmed down QRF until larger forces could be brought to bear. Sort of a Force induced Special Operations.
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