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Continuity, Criticisms, and Captain Panaka
by: Dan Wallace
date posted: Apr 11, 2006 8:49 PM  | 
updated: Jun 18, 2006 7:52 PM
Hot Chocolate, or, How Spacey Should Star Wars Get?
When Tim Zahn's Heir to the Empire came out in 1991, it featured a scene between Luke Skywalker and Lando Calrissian, where Luke sampled an "exotic beverage" called ... hot chocolate.

This rubbed some fans the wrong way. I think it's a perfect example of the "spaciness factor" -- namely, how much should the Star Wars universe feel like a comfortable, well-worn pair of jeans, and how much should it reflect the bizarre exoticism of things that you never could have imagined?

George Lucas did a masterful job straddling this line. The cantina scene in ANH is frequently cited as an example of Lucas' vivid imagination, but unlike other sci-fi movies of the period (see Alien), Lucas showed his monsters getting drunk and slapping each other on the back. Because the scene has been parodied and copied so many times, it's difficult to remember that at the time, this was completely fresh and funny. Space monsters, enough to populate a dozen separate space monster movies, sitting together in the same bar and sharing a beer!

Here's my personal areas of complaint whenever I judge the "spaciness factor."

Names.
Luke, Ben, Owen ... those are SW names. Heck, there's even a Y-wing pilot named Dave. The more time I spend in the SW universe, the more I find it difficult to embrace names with apostrophes or lots of consonants (especially the letters Q, X, and Z). I'm a big fan of the Evasive Action webstrips, and I think "Drake Logan" is a pitch-perfect SW name -- so I cringe that it's actually spelled "Drake Lo'gaan." For the same reason, I dislike "Jacen," when "Jason" is more straightforward and carries more mythological resonance.

Animals.
It's the Millennium Falcon, right? And there are mouse droids. Star Tours has goose droids. There are rats in Jabba's dungeon, and snakes and monitor lizards on Dagobah. The Ewok movies have ferrets and horses. Yeah, I know many of these on-screen animals were used for budgetary reasons, and that these beasties might have completely different SW names, but I think it shows that Earthly animals can live comfortably in the galaxy far, far away (alongside that very common Earthly animal, the human being). On the other hand -- and here's where I'm having it both ways -- the fact that Luke once owned a dog, and his infamous "What's a duck?" line (both from Alan Dean Foster's novelization of A New Hope), still kind of bug me.

Alphabets.
While I think that aurebesh looks cool, and I've gotten to the point that I can almost read it unassisted, it doesn't offer anything other than spacey window dressing. If each aurebesh letter represents a specific phonetic sound, and if the letters are strung together in the sequences seen in the prequels and elsewhere, then the characters are speaking English -- so from a suspension-of-disbelief standpoint, you might as well use Roman lettering. (Yes, it bothered me that the DVDs changed the Roman lettering on the Death Star's tractor beam controls.)

Also, if aurebesh is the SW alphabet of choice, what to make of X-wings and Y-wings? They're not called Xesh-wings and Yirt-wings, nor do they bear any resemblance to the aurebesh letters xesh and yirt.

Calendars.
I'm on record as being no fan of West End Games' 10-month calendar, as it offers no advantages other than upping the spaciness quotient.

In summary -- world-building is a balance, and I don't think anybody did it better than George. SW might have a planet where people mine an anti-gravity metal called zertroonium, but under George Rules, the settlement would consist of a rookiee sheriff, a bumbling deputy, a madam with a heart of gold, and a band of thievin' claim-jumpers. And there would be a saloon where patrons tie up their six-legged saberdiles at the watering trough.

Also keep in mind that I've written more than a million words on Star Wars, and therefore I'm a big hypocrite because I've broken all these rules several times over.

So anyway, what about the hot chocolate? Truth be told, it kind of bugged me too. I think it was because it was presented as an exotic drink, as if Lando had somehow entered our own universe and escaped carrying a packet of Swiss Miss.

Dan
(writing projects and current releases)

Pabawan
Fragments from the Mind's Eye
date Posted: Apr 11, 2006 9:00 PM
I remembering finding it so refreshing in Yoda: Dark Rendezvous, where a character refered to a common, terrestrial something as a common terrestrial something. Now, of course, memory escapes me. I like to think it was a rose being called a rose, and not a Zebtrookian thistlebud, or some such.

If the screenplay to Episode II was written solely as an EU book, Dex's line about "how big your pocketbook is" would have been changed to something far less readable, like, "how big your certified cred interchip is" or something.
Pabawan
Fragments from the Mind's Eye
date Posted: Apr 11, 2006 9:06 PM
Oh, and on a tangential aside, Star Trek has something similar. I remember a comedian (it might have been Kevin Pollack) noting that whenever something historic is cited, there are always two Earth examples, and then a ridiculous spacey one.

eg. "It ranks up there with the Magna Carta, the signing of the Declaration, and the Abolition of the Konflikkian Thermite Wars" :)

ph
The Dark Moose
Moose Poodoo
date Posted: Apr 11, 2006 9:14 PM
I think it's a perfect example of the "spaciness factor" -- namely, how much should the Star Wars universe feel like a comfortable, well-worn pair of jeans, and how much should it reflect the bizarre exoticism of things that you never could have imagined?

I like to call this the amount of "Earthropomorphism" that, often by necessity, we have to take part in. I think it comes down to this - we all have earth-bound eyes attached to earth-bound grey matter, so there is really only a certain range of things we can possibly approach understanding.
Jedi Master Mina
Jedi blogging, go back to your drinks!
date Posted: Apr 11, 2006 9:15 PM
Why was the beverage referenced as hot chocolate anyway? Why not use a little imagination to come up with a completely different name. How about Hot Mustafar. :^O

No one can produce the magic that GL brings to this universe. I found it funny to read that Luke enjoys hot chocolate and even Tea! Now, excuse me while I go and have some hot chocolate, with mint! ;)
The Dark Moose
Moose Poodoo
date Posted: Apr 11, 2006 9:18 PM
That being said, its nice to be challenged...but on important concepts like gender or moral codes or family roles. The more mundane stuff, like chocolate - I look at those as generic building blocks every society has. Everyone has metal alloys, everyone has a type of glass, everyone has a type of chocolate. It may not be made of cocoa beans or whatever...but the generic concept is there.

The Dark Moose
Moose Poodoo
date Posted: Apr 11, 2006 9:18 PM
Kinda like, if you think about it - every nation has their version of a burrito. Yep. Think about it. Anyhoo, I talked about this a little here...it's a very interesting subject to me - just how much of it can we tolerate without it being distracting, but how much can we do without it and be able to relate?
jkthunder
Seven Pieces
date Posted: Apr 11, 2006 9:46 PM
Ha! This is great. These are the very things I was so determined to not let the EU kill for me - the spaciness, as well as the new and unknown. Heck, maybe it was because I was such a youngun' when I saw the OT, I beleived in it SO much... but the 'earthly' things in the films, primarily the OT, never bothered me. I willing gave that huge leap of faith (even though I didnt have faith in much 'cept maybe grilled cheese sandwiches). Then you get the EU, an author's interpretation of something so unique... the earth-isms stand out much more to me.
jkthunder
Seven Pieces
date Posted: Apr 11, 2006 9:50 PM
The calander thing, Id just rather not think about it. Its sort of like contemplating infinity... or something. "A long time ago, in a GFFA" made perfect sense to me (somehow) until someone went and explained it.

And what about all that tea that Wedge was slugging back?
The Dark Moose
Moose Poodoo
date Posted: Apr 11, 2006 10:12 PM
I thought this bit was interesting from the Star Wars Questions & Answers about if Naboo has horses (it shows the same accompanying picture appearing in this blog entry), and it says they are actually not horses, but guarlaras. They're just an earth-like equine species.

.. I wonder if there are moose-like species in the GFFA...?
Halagad
Only Sith Deal In Absolutes!
date Posted: Apr 11, 2006 10:52 PM
Dan, this is one of your best blogs to date.

Personally, I liked the Hot Chocolate yuk yuk yuk factor when I first read the line in Heir to the Empire. It was the perfect line to set me at ease and put me in the state of mind that I was entering a distinct but familiar place.
The Stooge
Star Wars Joke-A-Day (gone fishin')
date Posted: Apr 12, 2006 12:03 AM
as if Lando had somehow entered our own universe and escaped carrying a packet of Swiss Miss

You got a lot of guts coming here... after what you pulled.

Fantastic blog! One of the best I've read in a while. Thanks!

And aren't there ducks on Naboo?
Dark Spork
Sporktastic Voyage
date Posted: Apr 12, 2006 5:12 AM
The hot chocolate thing always kinda bugged me, but I'm bothered more by the stuff like 'Corellian gar-tigers' so I'm willing to let it slide.

I rather like the guarlaras and the various Naboo horse-like animals. I'd rather see a new word than call them 'Naboo swamp-horses' or something; it's when the SW and earth terms begin mixing that I start eye-rolling.

It does occur to me that the ten-month year could be used to deal with the various timeline gaffs, though... Or maybe it already has. :D I don't know. I generally avoid such nitpickery.
  Hedec Ga
War Journal of Hedec Ga
date Posted: Apr 12, 2006 7:25 AM
I know what you're saying, Dan. The one line is ESB that always bothered me was when Han said "I'll see you in hell" The record scratched and I was like "Whuzzat?" I think it's been retconned since then that Corellia has a "hell", but still. It's a hard line to tow. I mean, REALLY, all things SW are Earthen. If you think about it, if we - as humans - can imagine these things or understand these things, then they're not REALLY "alien" are they? I think of alien as in "I have nothing to compare that to." Most alien species in SW are variants of things that exist on Earth. I don't think we're capable of coming up with something totally "alien". Does that make sense?
  Tarkin the Ewok
date Posted: Apr 12, 2006 9:18 AM
I've never had a problem with suspension of disbelief in this area. The characters already speak English and make references to Earth stuff in the movies, so it just seemed natural that they would have things in common with us in the EU as well.
JMMC
date Posted: Apr 12, 2006 12:40 PM
Dan, I agree with you on the names. I hate reading a book trying to figure out how to pronounce something. Apostraphes and extra dashes, etc, are just annoyances. The most irritating are "real" Chiss names. Thrawn is really afdgafg'thrawn'hiijkjin or something. When I see one of those names, I skip over it. GL' characters have down-to-earth or at least pronouncible names. Han Solo, Boba Fett, Tarkin, Jabba, are easy to say and obvious. Even later silly names -- Jar Jar Binks -- are still simple. Some EU names are solid and obvious, though, like Corran Horn or Talon Karrde. Six vowels in a row and twelve apostraphes just aren't necessary.

JMM
JMMC
date Posted: Apr 12, 2006 12:42 PM
eg. "It ranks up there with the Magna Carta, the signing of the Declaration, and the Abolition of the Konflikkian Thermite Wars"

And Pablo, usually those lists -- especially the on old show -- have Mars in there somewhere... :)

JMM
Dan Wallace
Continuity, Criticisms, and Captain Panaka
date Posted: Apr 12, 2006 3:30 PM
I like it when we get dueling spacey metaphors. Tim Zahn used "kill two dune lizards with one throw," while Steve Perry used "kill two fleek eels with one trident."

On the other hand, I know for a fact that I once wrote "out of the cooking pot and into the flame," on the assumption that frying pans weren't spacey enough.

Dan
Pabawan
Fragments from the Mind's Eye
date Posted: Apr 12, 2006 4:47 PM
As much as I love Jaxxon, even I cringed when he referred to "space carrots" in one issue.

Space carrots? What, do they have fins?

ph
bonniegrrl
Droids Just Wanna Have Fun
date Posted: Apr 12, 2006 4:47 PM
At first I thought this entry would be about Kevin Spacey's Walken impersonation as he auditioned for the Star Wars films.

but alas I was wrong.
Pabawan
Fragments from the Mind's Eye
date Posted: Apr 12, 2006 4:50 PM
Oh, and the worst way to make something spacey is by combining two terrestrial terms. I won't name the particular author who was notorious for this, but I will cite some of his creations: mucuous salamander, hawk bat (okay, that one's not too bad), lizard-ants (that one just embarrassing), crystal snakes, and spider-crab.

It always reminds me of the Simpsons with the founding of Springfield film, wherein a settler, upon seeing a buffalo for the first time, refers to it as "some sort of land cow!"

ph
  jedifaith06
My thoughts on starwars....
date Posted: Apr 12, 2006 6:25 PM
Great blog!!
the hot chocolate thing bugs me 2. but it's still kinda funny!
  Blackhawk003
The Enigmatic Waterfowl
date Posted: Apr 12, 2006 7:06 PM
I refer you to my blog...

THE ENIGMATIC WATERFOWL

Named after the one and only Star Wars duck.
masterkenobiwan
Certain Point of View
date Posted: Apr 12, 2006 8:24 PM
really great blog -
I have to say the hot chocolate thing really bothers me too it just kinda smacks you in the face being an "exotic beverage"
I think everyone has their own limit to spaciness and it can vary from situation to situation, I personally don't like too much Earth-stuff in my Star Wars, but it really depends on the situation, and like you said its all about balance and GL is def the master of it, he got the perfect blend of spaciness and reality for the movies
Dan Wallace
Continuity, Criticisms, and Captain Panaka
date Posted: Apr 12, 2006 8:50 PM
Space carrots? What, do they have fins?

Don't know why, but this reminded me of Futurama's "space Pope":

Fry: "Well, thanks to the internet I'm now bored with sex. Is there a place on the web that panders to my lust for violence?"

Bender: "Is the Space Pope reptilian?"
  Dark_Lord_of_the_Kupo
date Posted: Apr 12, 2006 10:07 PM
Extended scene:

Lando: "Here you are, Luke."
Luke: "What is this?"
Lando: "It's an exotic drink. I believe the name for it is...hot choc...chocolate."
Luke takes a sip.
Luke: "Wow! This hot choc-chocolate is good."
Lando: "No, Luke, it's one 'choc' in chocolate."
Luke: "Oh... This wonchockin-chocolate is good."
Lando: "No! It's pronounced HOT CHOCOLATE."
Luke: "Oh...what're those things over there called?"
Lando: "I believe those are called Marshmallows or Marshmaloos...I dunno."
Luke: "No, not that. Those!"
Lando: "Oh...those are ducks."
Luke: "What's a duck?"

-LFL
SilverForce
Delusions of Grandeur
date Posted: Apr 12, 2006 10:13 PM
I'm a big fan of Zahn, but the hot chocolate thing completely killed my suspension of disbelief and took me out of the story. The same goes for the "Are you brain dead" line in Ep.1. No one is immune, I guess.

Metaphors cause big problems for writers in non-Earth based universes. Either they use one that is so earth-centric as to not fit within the story, or they try to make it "spacey" and wind up sounding ridiculous...as seen above. They're better off dropping the detracting metaphor all together.

Normal names with phonetic spellings are equally weak. Just spell it normally or come up with something completely new....and pronounceable.

And I'm sure I've done the same in some game products...they still make me cringe.
  xoccnodd
Unlimited Power!! ....From The Desk Of Xocc Nodd
date Posted: Apr 12, 2006 11:28 PM
Excellent blog, this is something I've struggled with but probably never put into words. I can't stand it when things are over-spacified, and also when things are much too Earthen. It's a fine line to tread.

BTW, why would a space carrot have fins? Aerodynamics? There's no air in space!
  xoccnodd
Unlimited Power!! ....From The Desk Of Xocc Nodd
date Posted: Apr 12, 2006 11:29 PM
P.S. That Ewok on a horse looks absolutely ridiculous!
Dan Wallace
Continuity, Criticisms, and Captain Panaka
date Posted: Apr 13, 2006 5:40 AM
More on Futurama and the "space carrots" issue. An in-universe commercial shown during an episode of Futurama contained the following disclaimer, which doubled as a shout-out to Star Wars collectors:

"THE FOLLOWING SPECIES ARE INELIGIBLE: SPACE WASPS, SPACE BEAVERS, ANY OTHER ANIMAL WITH THE WORD 'SPACE' IN FRONT OF IT, SPACE CHICKENS, AND THE ELUSIVE YAK-FACE."
  Darth_Alpha1
Sith Happens, but Jedi Rocks
date Posted: Apr 13, 2006 5:52 AM
I agree that there's a fine line between too "spacey"

Luke: Hey, look at that cruiser!
Han: Yeah I think its a new Milikian Voot-Cruiser!


and too "earthen"

Luke: Hey, look at that cruiser!
Han: Oh yeah, I think that's the new Ford Fusion Cruiser!


Yes, that would be blatant advertising if anyone put in that line but you get the gist of it. I think that things that may seem earthen have to be put in subtly like with the ducks in ep. I + II. I do agree though that GL has done an excellent job avoiding dialogue that might include disputible observations like this:

Padme: Look at those ducks, Ani!
Anakin: Oh yeah, cool. (This from a kid raised on Tatooine)


DA1 Force be with Ya'
  Darthflaga
date Posted: Apr 13, 2006 9:29 AM
Oh, and the worst way to make something spacey is by combining two terrestrial terms.

indeed. I guess this is part of the attraction, trying to recruit more fans into the starwars unverse, giving them something to relate to. If the GFFA is not so different than us it is worth watching. Although I believe it would be better to give us something more alien like. Then again what do I know :D ?
RyanKaufman
Look, sir! Zombies!
date Posted: Apr 13, 2006 10:59 AM
Great blog, Dan.

When I was the continuity minder at LucasArts, I had to field this kind of stuff all the time, and it's interesting to see that my feelings fall along pretty much the same lines as yours.

The advantage that the films have every time is that they can use visual elements in a highly-controlled way. Consider blue milk. In a novel, you actually have to decide to write "blue milk" or "Snivvian gut lactation" or whatever. You have to make a declarative choice.

On film, GWL lets the audience interpret the visual any way that's palatable to them.
RyanKaufman
Look, sir! Zombies!
date Posted: Apr 13, 2006 11:00 AM
So the degree of spacey-ness is slideable.

Although, in the case of an Ewok riding a horse, there's a clear violation of everyone's trust and sanity.
The Dark Moose
Moose Poodoo
date Posted: Apr 13, 2006 4:25 PM
Normal names with phonetic spellings are equally weak. Just spell it normally or come up with something completely new....and pronounceable.

It's a little overspent - its as if we've run out of names for all of sci-fi, so now every single name resembles a Trekkish contraction.

There just can't be that many cultural naming conventions with an affinity for apostrophes in the universe. Not every name has to look like "D'ar K'Moose".

Me, I like like the old idea of spelling things backwards. I think Esoom Krad is a very coolio spacey name. or not :0)

EK out
jedivan2
Jedivan's Viewpoint
date Posted: Apr 13, 2006 7:03 PM
Keep in mind that Lucasfilm allowed Timothy Zahn to use the term for a Japanese longsword as the name of a class of dreadnought. Also, the Katana ships are "dreadnoughts", not some made-up name that is unique to the Star Wars Universe. Lucas himself referred to Leia's ship as a Correllian corvette. Note that "corvette" is also a term from Earth, as are the following terms: "princess", "general", "senate", "senator",
"republic", "empire", "emperor", "shuttle", "admiral", and "captain". So, I have no problem with "hot chocolate" being in the Star Wars Universe.
jkthunder
Seven Pieces
date Posted: Apr 13, 2006 8:31 PM
In a novel, you actually have to decide to write "blue milk" or "Snivvian gut lactation"...On film, GWL lets the audience interpret the visual any way that's palatable to them.

Thats it! At least for me, and for the most part. Reading about the look of the "carpeting" in the Imperial Palace... wait... there's no carpets in space! But even CF asking someone to "get this walking carpet" out of her way, it doesnt seem as bad. Actually, sort of a bad example, b/c that was one of the few things in the films that briefly yanked me out of SW la la land.

But for the most part I agree. To read it is one thing. To visually imply it is another.
  Singin Hobo
I find your lack of pants disturbing
date Posted: Apr 13, 2006 8:46 PM
I've always been bothered by terms for everyday material... it took me a few books to realize that "transparisteel" is, more-or-less, "glass."

Real-life terms aren't a distraction... in fact it's silly things like you've mentioned that actually pull me out of the fantasy, but it's fun things like hot chocolate and the great "duck line" (I didn't ever read ANH until about a year ago and I laughed out loud) that remind me that it's fun to be a Star Wars fan.

For people who get caught up and uptight about this sort of thing I have to say that you've missed the point of the universe... it's about having fun.
The Dark Moose
Moose Poodoo
date Posted: Apr 13, 2006 8:49 PM
"Transparisteel" I've never minded, because it was something we don't have but would be an incredible innovation - transparent metal alloy. Now, the word itself is a hybrid of well-known Earth words, but still - the concept, early on, was kinda cool. Its old hat now, but when I first heard the term I thought it was innovative.
  jSarek
jSarek's Infonet
date Posted: Apr 13, 2006 10:22 PM
I rarely have suspension of disbelief issues about this sort of thing. The mere fact that there are humans in the GFFA mean I have to be pretty generous with that suspension, anyway; adding English and horses and hot chocolate to the list is no big deal.

When an author coins a new term for something familiar, I enjoy the difference between the SW galaxy and my own. When an author *doesn't* coin a new term, I enjoy the way a perfectly mundane, earthly thing adds richness to the galaxy, especially when, like ducks and hot chocolate, there's a certain sense of dramatic irony in the fact that something I know all too well is fresh and new to the characters.
  jSarek
jSarek's Infonet
date Posted: Apr 13, 2006 10:24 PM
In this respect, there's no way for me to loose.

However, I do dislike tongue-twisting names. I cut "Mitth'raw'nuruodo" some slack, because that name was designed to cover the identity of Thrawn in Mist Encounter, but Zahn kind of painted himself and others into a corner as far as other Chiss names go. And there was *no* such excuse for other cases, like Joruus C'baoth or the Bpfasshi system.
The Dark Moose
Moose Poodoo
date Posted: Apr 14, 2006 6:54 AM
What cracks me up is that in-universe, aside from the Beowulfian "kennings" (ala "whale-road" for you lit-philes), as was pointed out before, they use a modifier to describe its origin or its configuration. So you come up with the Guldarian Six-Legged Thatch-Beast.

I think this actually comes from Bird Watching - you know - like European Red-Breasted Wood Sparrow or something.

But in the real world we don't go around doing this. I don't go around saying "Louisianian Fang-Gator" or "Alabaman Swamp-Fish" or "Oklahoman Subterranian Ground-Beaver" or even "Texan Winged Owl-of-Prey". At least most of Star Wars has short, simple names like Mynock, Gundark, Eeopie, etc...
Ithorion Guy
Ithorian Guy's Official Continuity Universe
date Posted: Apr 14, 2006 7:18 AM
I'd never thought of why they call them X and Y-Wings instead of Xesh-wings and Yirt-wings... Great blog! :)
Dan Wallace
Continuity, Criticisms, and Captain Panaka
date Posted: Apr 14, 2006 8:34 AM
I'd never thought of why they call them X and Y-Wings instead of Xesh-wings and Yirt-wings...

And who could ever forget that great droid duo, Reshtoo-Dorntoo and Cresh-Threepethosk?
  Rogue_Follower
What Ever Happened to Grambo the Worrt?
date Posted: Apr 14, 2006 11:26 AM
>>>Truth be told, it kind of bugged me too. I think it was because it was presented as an exotic drink, as if Lando had somehow entered our own universe and escaped carrying a packet of Swiss Miss.<<<

Sounds about right. We really need to see more of Lando... :)

But right up that alley is Campbell's Cream Of Womprat Soup, straight out of Beru's kitchen. ;)

Just one more reason why I love Decipher.
Joe Corroney
Drawing in the Empire
date Posted: Apr 14, 2006 9:27 PM
I think it was because it was presented as an exotic drink, as if Lando had somehow entered our own universe and escaped carrying a packet of Swiss Miss.

Surrounded by a bevy of beautiful Rutian and Lethan Twi'lek females, Lando slyly leans over the table in the cantina, looks Nein Nunb directly in the eye and then says, "Swiss Miss... works every time!"


C'mon, you were already thinking it, someone just had to say it.
jkelly
There Is No Conflict
date Posted: Apr 15, 2006 9:18 AM
I just don't like the weird names of characters because it's hard for me to follow when I read the story. If I'm introduced to "Bob Smith" on the first page, I immeidately tag to the identity. If I have trouble pronouncing the name, it slows down my comprehension and confuses me as more characters are introduced. But it happens when I read about characters from other countries, too. Japanese names used to be trouble, but, with a lot of work, I'm getting over that.
  Oboe-Wan
Oboe-Wan's Hive of Scum & Villainy
date Posted: Apr 17, 2006 10:49 AM
I think it was because it was presented as an exotic drink, as if Lando had somehow entered our own universe and escaped carrying a packet of Swiss Miss.

I knew it! He looked awfully shifty & suspicious when he left my house that night.... I've been one packet short ever since. ;)
Pabawan
Fragments from the Mind's Eye
date Posted: Apr 17, 2006 1:23 PM
Transparisteel" I've never minded, because it was something we don't have but would be an incredible innovation.

The thing about transparisteel being an EU creation, and not a George Lucas-creation is that if George wants glass to break in his movie, it will break like glass, regardless if a sourcebook labelled it as transparisteel somewhere... which then prompts the question -- what benefits does transparisteel have if it shatters like glass?

O.J.
date Posted: Apr 19, 2006 7:37 PM
Pablo, I think you've got transparisteel confused with glassteel.

;)
  shizumadrive
Adventures of an over-active acklay!
date Posted: Apr 21, 2006 11:01 AM
Some of the reasons I don't like EU stuff as well. George had a weequay jedi and I thought cool Geroge shows that not every member of a alien race has to work for jabba on a skiff. Then the comics decided oh he's a weequay he must really be evil after all. West End and others did that with Rodians (yeah they came up woht the name) but every one of them had to be a bounty hunter and their culture has to revolve around hunting. We then see a dancer and one working as a aide to Palpatine. Everything shouldnt be all good or all bad. Show some of both and tons inbetween.

I won't even get into the multiple races of nikto.
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