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Star Wars: Storylines and Concepts, and What We Wish We Could See
date posted: Jun 02, 2006 2:01 PM
Star Wars vs Star Trek: Science Fiction Sagas for Different Purposes
Many people have compared and contrasted Star Wars to Stark Trek. This is of course like comparing apples and oranges, and in fact I've written on this topic before, on http://www.lit.org. Once on LiveJournal, a buddy of mine posted that on his radio show, people compared Star Wars against Star Trek during a discussion of the new Star Wars III release. In response, I found myself writing an essay, which I had not set out to do. It turned out so nicely that I repost it here:

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Star Wars vs Star Trek: Science Fiction Sagas for Different Purposes

Each of these science-fiction paradigms represents a different brand of storytelling and serves a completely different purpose therein.

Star Wars is a magickal mythos, very much in the same sort of vein of ancient mythologies just as Tolkein emulated them so well in LOTR. It is based on the Ring Trilogy by the German composer Wagner. In fact when George Lucas was recruiting John Williams to do the musical score for Star Wars in the seventies, he had placed Wagner's work over the nearly-final version of the film, certain pieces for certain scenes, so Williams would have an idea of how Lucas wanted him to emulate Wagner and what he wanted musically texturally for each scene. LOTR was also inspired partly by Wagner. However the true roots of these epics go back to mythos such as Beowulf and those of the ancient Greeks.

Star Trek is true speculative fiction in the literal sense of the word. While Star Wars simply presents an epic mythos in the vastness of space, it is in the past in another galaxy, and is not strictly 'speculative fiction'. That's not it's function: it does not predict nor attempt specifically to guide the developing mentality of society, although it does at times attempt to teach morality lessons as did the classic myths. Star Trek was meant to provide an influence in society as well as predict the future of Humanity in the most positive yet realistic light possible, and succeeded in inspiring multitudes of new scientists, astronauts and hordes of dreamers. There is a fantasy element but it is the original science-fiction touchstone: 'This is what we can do if we pull it together in these dangerous years.' Indeed, we need something with equal power or greater to inspire people again, for these are even more dangerous times than the 1960's which spawned Star Trek.

On a very practical level, Star Trek also predicted many technologies more often than not then-unheard-of, which have appeared amongst us today. Some of the predictions are expected to be impossible, such as the transporter, but warp drive is a possibility according to scientists, and we do in fact have devices much like communicators and tricorders with us now, long before even the projected fiscal calendar of the show's setting: the 22nd and 23rd centuries.

Most positively, Star Trek provided a powerful voice against social negatives such as racism, even giving us television's first interracial kiss. (Kirk/Shatner and Uhura/Nichols, 'Plato's Stepchildren', 1968)

Star Trek provides a great beacon of hope to those who still perceive its positive prediction of a bountiful Human future in the stars, for all of us. Unfortunately those in power seem to despise this dream, and there are too few who espouse it to fight for it effectively.

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Now, here on Starwars.com I continue:

Star Wars does many things better than Star Trek.

I believe that the continuity of the story has been much better managed than in Star Trek, whose future-history is full of holes, contradictions and now, of course, anomalies. (I specifically point out the 'Eugenics Wars' which were supposed to happen in the 1990's, which have already passed, but occured in Star Trek's universe - with an episode and a movie dedicated to the idea, thanks to Ricardo Montalban and the writers, there's not much they can do about it.) Star Wars doesn't have this problem, at least not in the degree to which Star Trek suffers from it.

Star Wars as a vastly more powerful 'romance' appeal. I don't mean simple boy-meets-girl (or boy-chokes-pregnant-secret-wife, for those who like that kind of action), but the whole swashbuckling, epic vibe of the whole epic. Star Wars lives up to the very word 'epic', in every way. It is a fantasy world that is easy and inviting to step into, and it is wonderfully lived-in. It breathes, and it is energetic. You can be a pirate, a scoundrel smuggler, a swaggering and womanizing gambler, a Dark Lord of the Sith, a Jedi Master, a barkeep in some wretched hive of scum and villainy, a droid, a princess, a farmboy with dreams of high adventure...

Do I really need to go on?

Star Trek is well-suited to its predictive style of storytelling, but it cannot do nearly as well what Star Wars does: provide a virtually unlimited venue for high fantasy adventure. There is nothing like it for what it does for the participant. For all my criticisms of it in my first couple of blogs, it is truly an amazing piece of work, worthy of all the discussion made of it.

It is a fine successor and competitor to 'The Lord of the Rings', and I think J.R.R. Tolkein (and even C.S. Lewis) would embrace it as a grand piece of work, even if it does not spring originally from a literary work. Lucas defied Hollywood to make the original motion picture; he deserves everything he derives from it today, especially in protecting it from corrupting influences that would make it child-unfriendly. As an educator, I commend him.

Now, for the feedback... the lectern is yours, gentlebeings.

  mandalore65
Mandalorian Pride
date Posted: Jun 02, 2006 2:07 PM
I cannot believe that people compare Star Wars and Star Trek,and some even choose the latter over SW.:O
  bret sith
date Posted: Jun 02, 2006 2:22 PM
as you said apples and oranges. Star trek is more of a futuristic military show. I prefur star trek. Another good si-fi show is futurama but that is a peach.
  Captain Peabody
date Posted: Jun 02, 2006 3:20 PM
I cannot believe that people compare Star Wars and Star Trek,and some even choose the latter over SW.
Hey, I can't believe that you choose Star Wars over Star Trek!;)
  Captain Peabody
date Posted: Jun 02, 2006 4:23 PM
Exactly, Darth Morbus; they're really from completely different genres.....the only possible way to compare them is at a purely technical level (sci-tech anyway) and in recent years some of that has gotten a little weird (i.e. Stardestroyer.net). But still, it can be fun to compare them, as long as you don't take it too seriously.....
  darth_morbus
Star Wars: Storylines and Concepts, and What We Wish We Could See
date Posted: Jun 03, 2006 7:36 PM
You'll get these people from time to time who want to match the USS Enterprise (whichever one, does it matter?) against a Star Destroyer. Now there are people who want to match one or the other against the Cylons from Battlestar Galactica.

Whatever.

People lack so much capacity in evaluative thought, and it's so hard to get them to pay attention to lessons in this kind of thought. That's why we have some of the problems we have in this society...

But that's a whole other blog, and it doesn't really belong here.
  gahmah80
Gahmah's Lair of Trauma (Blog Closed Due to Inability to Renew Hyperspace Account)
date Posted: Jun 04, 2006 7:50 PM
You are right here. Star Trek is about some big philosophy and technological advancement.

Star Wars, however, is about Good vs. Evil, and the archetypal conflict. Oh, and technology doesn't backwards in SW, it only seems like that because it is trying to fit with the theme.
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