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The Boy Has No Patients
date posted: Apr 15, 2007 5:17 PM
"You don't need our identification."
Force Persuasion:

How does it work? Of course, we are never to understand. But knowledge is different from understanding. For example we can know why lightning strikes and explain everything there is to know about lightning yet we will never understand why lightning decided to strike at all. Just think of people who must spend hours, weeks, years or their entire lives studying and discovering things about lighting. What would happen if lightning had never existed? What then? What fragile balance that existed when the science of lightning had been around would collapse....yet if lightning had never existed life would go on, regular. That was both an example of me rambling and of the difference between knowledge and understanding.
There's more to that topic (the difference of mercy and pity) but back to the point. Knowing how Force persuasion works is one thing. To understand it is another. Does it work like a Jedi has gone into the other being's mind and then make their strong decisiveness very....fuzzy....? But then if thats the case why can't a Jedi mass destroy armies by entering their minds' and setting off the "self destruct". That reminds me of Eragon to those who've read it. To be precise: Eldest. The empire of Alagaësia (thumbs up to Christopher Paolini on this book!!) is threatening to crush the revolution: the Varden. Eragon must try to destroy the enemy mages' mental resistance. Once he does he can destroy them by making their heart stop, or make them turn on their own men. Is this what Jedi can do?

If so then why don't they? I think the answer to that is fairly simple. They can't destroy by thought alone. Maybe the way Force influence works is the way a mesmer works in Artemis Fowl.
A fairy's voice, layered in magic makes the hesitant victim unable to resist.

OK. So far there are two possible ways that Force persuasion might work.
I think i eliminated the first way. So that leaves us with answer 2. The problem i have with that is this. If the Force persuasion bends the victim to the Force-user's complete and total will then the Jedi might not have been destroyed. Just think. If the Jedi are being destroyed all around the galaxy, those with limited warning could commandeer the clones against themselves. The survival percentage would be higher. Whatever. Either way that can't be it either.

Thoughts?

Yôda

  rj_peters
Memos from the Imperial Finance Department
date Posted: Apr 15, 2007 5:23 PM
But then if thats the case why can't a Jedi mass destroy armies by entering their minds' and setting off the "self destruct".

Jedi can't necessarily do that, but I believe there were a few Jedi out there that could use Battle Meditation to do something very similar. They were able to influence the will of large numbers of fighters with this Force technique. Wookieepedia has brief discussion here.
  indyStarWarsFan
Code is Hapspir, Barrini, Corbolan, Triaxis
date Posted: Apr 15, 2007 6:40 PM
Battle Meditation isn't necessarily a "self-destruct"; it's more of a discourager than a suicide creator. When used, the enemy still gets defeated, but by the user's troops, not by the enemy's own troops. Yes, the will could be influenced to change the course of a battle, but not to the point to make an army turn on itself.

Good thought though.
JediMelindaWolf
Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
date Posted: Apr 16, 2007 6:35 AM
Interesting idea you pose here, dy. Meditate on this more I will.

Off the top of my head, however, I'll say that by the pure essence of the Jedi, destruction never would be their main objective. The Jedi don't use their powers for that end.

That being said, not all Jedi had the ability to influence a weak-minded individual's mind.

Consider this, too - when one's thoughts are concentrated on a particular objective, one - even a Jedi - might not be as aware as one should be of what is going on around him/her. A Jedi is not all powerful (as Anakin wished to be). Not even Yoda was. We shouldn't forget that.

MTFBWY :)
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