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A little while ago, the Norwegian Green cross (a subsidiary of the red one), created a human library. The idea behind this is that it will be possible to borrow a human being for a few hours.
Not just any other human, but one that a lot of people are prejudiced against. Blind, in a wheelchair, gay/lesbian/transgender, HIV-positive, immigrant, bulimic, old, soccer-fan, jew, preast, and so on. I think they've got a politician as well.
The reason of doing this is that people, schools, organisations etc. should be able to redeem their prejudices by learning more about so-called weird people.
If you could borrow a person for a few hours, and thus learn more of who they are and how their world is built, who would you choose?
I think I would pick a Star Trek fan. I've always wondered what they're on about.
Thrupp: To hold a ruler on one end on a desk and make the other end go bbddbbddbbrrbrrrrddrr
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Sam The Smuggler
Things...Stuff
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 4:21 AM
Hey, I'd Like To Help, But I Gotta Go To Work, But Then Maybe You're Not Back Yet. Anyway, See You Later.
Live Long And Prosper.
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Darth_Alpha1
Sith Happens, but Jedi Rocks
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 4:31 AM
Hey as long as you feed me, entertain me, let me have minimal bathroom breaks and a five-gallon bucket of Cherry Vanilla Dr. Pepper, and a pantry full of bugles, I'll be that Trekkie!
Oh that and not mind me reciting Klingon battle chants at night or pretending the Living Room is the bridge to the Enterprise...Enterprise-D That is, my favorite of the bunch... 
Send me a click, meet my demands, and respond when I call you "Number One", and I think I'd really enjoy myself...
DA1 Peace and Long Life, Live Long and Prosper...
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Darth_Alpha1
Sith Happens, but Jedi Rocks
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 5:18 AM
I CAN'T HEAR MYSELF SCREAM!!!!
In space...no one can hear you...oh wait...sorry wrong franchise!
AHHH!!! WEIRDO!!!! I HATE TREKKIES!!! SAY SOMETHING SOMEBODY!!
Oh I'll say something, Commander, set Phasers to kill! *Phaser sound*
Damn it, he has a Lightsaber! Run!
At least we don't have Ewoks! Ha, Ha, Warp 9 Ensign! Engage! Oh Double Damn, they have a Hamburger-shaped craft capable of Warpspeed as well! NO!!!! 
DA1 Force be with Ya' (Whispering: Live long and prosper)
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leialookalike1
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 6:49 AM
May the force be with you
for you YY. Happy now?
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RuniVode
We're out of rockets, sir.
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 7:17 AM
lol what an absurd idea! Borrowing people of a specific social group to know about them? why the hell not... At least it would be honest, although awkward, naive and alienating  I don't think people would naturally reach out for those who are different... So yeah, whatever floats your drakkar!
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Kenobi-fan
The Jundland Wastes Journal
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 7:59 AM
The idea behind this is that it will be possible to borrow a human being for a few hours.
So where exactly do they place the 'due back by' stamp on them? Ha!
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Captain Peabody
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 8:01 AM
Star Trek rules! Way to go, Darthalpha1! You show 'em! 
Live Long and Prosper (does Vulcan salute with hand)
bwaha
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luuke.skywalker
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 8:30 AM
I'd like to borrow a Norwegian for a few hours.
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Darth Rex0
So be it....
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 8:46 AM
Kenobi-fan, I must say I'm shocked. I don't have a comment. I'm still too in shock. Unbelievable. The world must be coming to an end.
What happened to everyone over the weekend? First jkthunder, now K-fan.
KKKKKHHHHAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNN!
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Zak Vorkon
The blog of a Balosar
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 9:27 AM
I'd like to borrow a Norwegian for a few hours.
That'd be perty cool.
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Tkia Fett
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 9:51 AM
I would borrow an American for a few hours, but I would probably run out of food!
Sorry, that was harsh.
Anyway, you're funny 
Thrupp
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NecRomance
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 10:26 AM
I'd like to borrow a Norwegian for a few hours.
A goodlooking, female specimen, preferably.
Beam me up, Obi-Wan!
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luuke.skywalker
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 11:25 AM
A goodlooking, female specimen, preferably.
Well, I didn't say just any Norwegian. I'm looking to borrow one Norwegian in particular. Yes, she is of the type you describe.
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NecRomance
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 1:29 PM
Well, I didn't say just any Norwegian. I'm looking to borrow one Norwegian in particular. Yes, she is of the type you describe.
I know.
Well, rather: I had guessed. But still.
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Darth_Alpha1
Sith Happens, but Jedi Rocks
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 1:38 PM
Joe: Hey Guys, what's in the boxes and why'd you get em'?
Phil: It's a blow-up woman to play with...
Jackson: It's my...Russian Bride...for you know what...
Tom: It's a Trekkie...I want to get over my prejudices against them...
Joe: Uh...okay...cool...Jackson, come on pal!
Personally I'd like a Vulcan bride, I hear you don't have to deal with those pesky emotions as much! Ah, the fantasies of a nerd...
DA1 Force be with Ya'
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Tkia Fett
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 2:12 PM
I would borrow a Brit, but I hear they can't fight.
Where did you hear that?
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NecRomance
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 3:21 PM
I would borrow a mute, but I hear they're boring conversationalists.
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Tilrem.
The deeper meaning of Liff.
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 3:45 PM
Well, I didn't say just any Norwegian. I'm looking to borrow one Norwegian in particular. Yes, she is of the type you describe.
I have just one thing to say: 
Sorry I haven't commented myself yet, had a little BDS emergency, and had to go away for a few hours.
Seems like that library wasn't such a bad idea.
But I checked, and they don't lend out any Trekkies. They did have an old slab of SW-fan in the basement though.
PS: BDS=Beer Drinking Society
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ithekro
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 5:51 PM
Lets all remember, the two, Star Wars and Star Trek, could not exist without each other. Star Wars is still here because there was a large sci-fi fan base that developed in the late 1960s and through the 1970s. A fan base that enjoyed what could be called a real space based show, Star Trek, rather than the monster or earth based shows that came before it.
And Star Trek as is exists today could not exist without Star Wars. The kick from Star Wars jumped Star Trek to the big screen, and the visual effects of Star Wars (and ILM itself) made Star Trek look better than ever.
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ithekro
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 5:54 PM
And while some think the two are competion, they are not, and never really have been. Star Trek films come out in November or December, when they do come out, and Star Wars comes out in May. Not fighting for theater seats, no fighting for tape or DVD sales. They even ended within the same month (the final episode of Enterprise and the final Star Wars Movie were released within a week of each other).
I've been a fan of both for a very long time. in the earlyt 1980s I would switch favorites when a film was released (1982: Star Trek, 1983: Star Wars, 1984: Star Trek). Both mean something to me. I've never understood the fight between fans. Even if fiction, I use them together. Done right, they fit like a glove.
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Ms TK-421
I do believe that they think I am some sort of God
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 6:05 PM
Well, first I'd borrow JarJar and ask him how it felt to bring an end to the Old Republic, then I'd borrow Kenobi-fan, realize he was just a lego all along and weep uncontrollably
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Darth_Alpha1
Sith Happens, but Jedi Rocks
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 6:10 PM
I've been a fan of both for a very long time. in the earlyt 1980s I would switch favorites when a film was released (1982: Star Trek, 1983: Star Wars, 1984: Star Trek). Both mean something to me. I've never understood the fight between fans. Even if fiction, I use them together. Done right, they fit like a glove.
Ah, yes. Well done Mr. Ithekro. I will admit that I became a "Star-Trek fan" near the end of last year, forcing myself to watch an episode of TNG on G4. I became hooked, and now I'm starting my second-favorite season, and regretably the last season, Enterprise
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Darth_Alpha1
Sith Happens, but Jedi Rocks
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 6:12 PM
(continued)
I may start Deep Space Nine, but don't know about Voyager or TOS, VOY seems too different, and TOS seems too old for my tastes. But before I continue my rants, allow me to sign off for the night. Later'
DA1 May the Force be with Ya', and may ya' live long and prosper!
"Like Ponda Boba, two different hands to form a single being..."
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Kenobi-fan
The Jundland Wastes Journal
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 6:23 PM
...then I'd borrow Kenobi-fan, realize he was just a lego all along and weep uncontrollably
As long as you don't lose any pieces, I can be put back together in a variety of forms: spaceship, lightsaber, blaster, Sith Lord, long winded blogger...you name it.
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ithekro
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 7:13 PM
That a tough ride. DS9 was one of those shifting plot line series that still kept to the core over time. Nice war in the later seasons, but still its an acquired taste, even to Trekies (I still use the older term even), I liked it, but I know enough people who didn't care for it...or some that didn't like Voyager, or Enterprise.
But there are some facts: 10 movies, 5 television series and one cartoon series. Just in seasions alone for the 5 series that's 28 years worth of television seasons. It is something like 575 hours of Star Trek. That's a lot of television in 40 years time. So give it a shot, there is bound to be something in all of that for anyone to like even a small piece of Trek.
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ithekro
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 7:19 PM
Star Wars has a wider appeal due to it fantasy nature, realism look (lived in look to the galaxy), and its general fast action storytelling method. Star Trek is more technology and humanity based (cultural and current events stories) which sometimes is suppose to give us a look at ourselves. Its a slower way to tell tales and sometimes they hit a little close to home. Its suppose to reflect human nature, both good and bad, while staying solidly in the science fiction setting rather than fantasy. (Thought admittedly they could use a fresh start with new writters...but then with so many shows, you are bound to repeat yourself from time to time.)
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Sam The Smuggler
Things...Stuff
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 7:20 PM
That a tough ride. DS9 was one of those shifting plot line series that still kept to the core over time. Nice war in the later seasons, but still its an acquired taste, even to Trekies (I still use the older term even), I liked it, but I know enough people who didn't care for it...or some that didn't like Voyager, or Enterprise.
An Acquired Taste Indeed, But Once I Acquired It, I Never Let It Go.
I Particuarly Liked How They Made The Final 10 Episodes One Big Story To End The Series.
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ithekro
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 7:23 PM
True. I still think Babylon 5 did the whole space station based long term story arc better, but DS9 is still a good show. A rarely missed an episode once I found a regular station to record it off of. Season 3 is where it picks up, though the first two seasons aren't bad.
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Sam The Smuggler
Things...Stuff
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 7:26 PM
I've Never Seen Babylon 5, But I Do Wanna See It Sometime. As For It Doing Better, That's No Surprise. DS9 Was Still Star Trek And They Still Try To Keep That Episodic Feel When They Could Afford To.
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ithekro
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 7:43 PM
Babylon 5: from the views persective
1st year: feeling it out and setting things up, generally without the viewer knowing what is being setup and what is a diversion.
2nd year: the pieces and story start to take form and the viewer starts going for a ride.
3rd and 4th years: hold on tight and don't miss a show for you are in for a long and good ride.
5th year: aftermath. starts off not quite as good as before, but ends as good as they started. A result of being cancelled and then being uncancelled...meaning they thought year 4 was going to be it, but were given the 5th year...now they had to do something.
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Sam The Smuggler
Things...Stuff
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 7:51 PM
Thanks.
BTw, A Post Someone Made On Another Board Might Interest You.
Star Wars = Brain Candy
Star Trek = Brain Food
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trills13
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 10:50 PM
What we're on about? Tilrem, Trekkies are about idealism! About a future where people on earth have eliminated hunger and poverty and all work together to solve problems and explore the galaxy together. What more could you ask from the future?
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trills13
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date Posted: May 22, 2006 10:51 PM
Not that I don't love Star Wars (why else would I be on this board). As ithekro says, they're very different. Star Wars is a hero's journey, Luke setting out to discover who he is and redeem his family name. The plot is not unique, but Lucas's way of telling the story carries the magic. Star Trek is much more character and plot driven. As a result, if a particular Star Trek series fails to develop interesting characters, the series doesn't have much to offer (hence my problem with both Voyager and Enterprise). DA1, give TOS a try- still the best characters of the entire franchise.
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Tilrem.
The deeper meaning of Liff.
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date Posted: May 23, 2006 12:07 AM
I would borrow a Brit, but I hear they can't fight.
I agree, they can't.
Exept Ewan.And Alec. And Liam. And Ian. And David.
Wow! You're sqrewd Vicky.
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luuke.skywalker
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date Posted: May 23, 2006 6:10 AM
No worries T, I'll return you when I'm done. 
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skystalker567
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date Posted: May 23, 2006 7:32 AM
"Ludacris Speed captain!
Yessir!"
folks.... where would we be without Star Trek and Star Wars coexisting as ithekro so elegantly put it (hey and to think without either we probably wouldnt have Spaceballs one of the greatest parody movies of all times)
"You fool youve captured their stunt doubles!"
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Darth_Alpha1
Sith Happens, but Jedi Rocks
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date Posted: May 23, 2006 8:00 AM
Okay, there's only like six comments left, but all the people who have recommanded DS9, I just have one question. I've heard that if someone jumps right in the storylines may be confusing, so should I start with renting the DVD's and start from point one, or just catch it this afternoon on Spike TV?
J/W p.S. Never saw Babylon 5, heard it was good though...
DA1 Force be wi---ahh you know the rest.
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darthbaker613
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date Posted: May 23, 2006 8:07 AM
Have any of you ever actually WATCHED star trek?
And without star trek, there would probably be no star wars, let alone such a large population of sci-fi/fantasy geeks.
star wars is cool and all, but i dont see why people get all hyped up over a couple of movies, whereas star trek is hundreds upon hundreds of episodes and movies to keep your mind satisfied.
so instead of borrowing a trekkie, why not actually try WATCHING the shows?
Live long and Prosper. Peace and long life....
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Tilrem.
The deeper meaning of Liff.
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date Posted: May 23, 2006 9:30 AM
Yes, I've watched some Star Trek, and it simply didn't do it for me. I simply didn't get as excited by it as I am by SW. Easy as that.
Besides, I started the Star Trek thread only because of the mandatory dislike a SW fan is supposed to have with ST. I honestly don't mind one bit what people watch or don't watch.
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jedimaster5972
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date Posted: May 23, 2006 9:33 AM
I agree, they can't.
Exept Ewan.And Alec. And Liam. And Ian. And David.
Ewan is Scottish and Lian is Irish. Alec and Ian and I think David all had stunt doubles.
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darthspanna
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date Posted: May 23, 2006 9:58 AM
I would borrow a Brit, but I hear they can't fight.
I agree, they can't.
Exept Ewan.And Alec. And Liam. And Ian. And David.
you forgot Ray and Christopher (maul and tyranus respectivly)
oh and chewi was played by a brit do you want to tell a wokiee he cant fight?
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darthspanna
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date Posted: May 23, 2006 10:00 AM
It occures to me Ray Parks was a Scot as well ... must be something to do with the celtic nations (though there all still British)
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