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Bai Ahzur's usless, but hopefully entertaining, yet somewhat eneventful, however rewarding, blog.
date posted: Jan 12, 2006 8:21 PM
The Meaning of Life.
Well first off I would like to yell out, yeehah. Why you say? Well, I finally saw the ROTS. It was great to see it in it's entirety again. In fact I got the idea for this blog while watching ROTS.

During the Utapau battle scene; I saw something. I saw a clone helping another and asking for medical aide. This brought to mind a debate I have heard many times, and I would like to share it with you in a question and answer form.

The first question is; are clones really human?
This is a subject that has long been discussed. In my opinion, clones of any type of being are still part of that species. But then the argument of what if they are altered to obey all commands without question and are mass produced. Does this still make them human. Of course it does, they still have emotions, and they still have their needs. People still argue that clones produced on a large scale are an expendable resource and don't need human rights. Thats true, but only if you control their minds. However, a free thinking ,human, mind will attemt to gain freedom, and recodnition of it's humanity.

Well, I leave you discuss the humanity of ,human, clones. I however, am moving on to the subject of droids.
When you ask a person, what qualifies something to be human? Most will reply, a soul. But then you ask, if having intelligence counts as being human? Even I would say no. But what happens if you create a program designed to mimmick the soul. Would you qualify it as human? Disturbingly the majority answer is no. So, what makes a soul a soul. I would say that the ability to communicate with a deity, to beleive it in you're mind. So if one creates a programming to mimmick this, it should qualify as a soul. Then they say, if it's synthetic it can't love, feel, or communicate with a deity. So the debate remains, what makes something human, or life. Can AI count as life. After all, it posesses all the traits that make sentient life. AI can speak, reason, and think on it's own. Even act on it's own thoughts and ideas. Some reason; that since it is artificial, it does not count as life. But we can be seen as artificial, we after all have all the same problems. We need to keep power up, and need to maintain our body's.

So, do droids, or clones, count as life or human? I think so, but still, does having all the traits of life and a soul, mean that you have one. This may be a question that echos throughout the ages.

If anyone has a question or comment, or presentation of their own, leave them in the box below.

  Zelaskowski
date Posted: Jan 12, 2006 8:26 PM
I hate to bring this up incase someone hates it but... You should watch the episode of Star Trek the Next Geberation called The Measure of a Man. There's an android named Data, and there's a trial to determine wether or not he has rights. Specifically, to refuse to submit to certain experiments. It touches on every single issue you brought up. Even if you aren't a Star Trek fan, it's an oustanding, stand alone episode!!!
  Bai Ahzur
Bai Ahzur's usless, but hopefully entertaining, yet somewhat eneventful, however rewarding, blog.
date Posted: Jan 12, 2006 8:30 PM
I've seen just about 150 Star Trek episodes.
  Aadi_Rila
Jedi Master to my God-child
date Posted: Jan 12, 2006 8:42 PM
I'm a huge Unsolved Mysteries fan and there was this episode which dealt with whether or not human cloning will ever be possible and the affects. Many people have stated warnings of consequences should we clone the wrong person. Of course they used cloning Adolf Hitler as an example. They determined that there would be no guaruntee that the new Adolf Hitler would grow up to be the same evil dictator that we are all familiar with, but that he would be carried and birthed by a women, raised from infancy and only his new life and own choices would determine his later outcomes in life, not his DNA.
  Aadi_Rila
Jedi Master to my God-child
date Posted: Jan 12, 2006 8:45 PM
I think as far as the SW clones are concerned, they were bred to be soldiers and good soldiers help out their fallen men on the field. They did as they were trained to do. But they werent fully human, though they looked it. They didn't have fully independent minds like we do. As soon as Order66 was given, they went on the killing rampage. To be human is to be of choice. From my point of view, that is.
  macewindu882
Don't Go All Chewie On Me!
date Posted: Jan 12, 2006 9:24 PM
True.
  cestus183
date Posted: Jan 13, 2006 1:39 AM
i agree with Aadi, it's the choice. Even though i'd like to say the choices are usually of moral choices. Humans have the sense of right and wrong
  Bai Ahzur
Bai Ahzur's usless, but hopefully entertaining, yet somewhat eneventful, however rewarding, blog.
date Posted: Jan 13, 2006 4:34 PM
So do droids, if programmed to have them.
JediPug1
Like My Father Before Me
date Posted: Jan 19, 2006 10:43 AM
Your immortal soul, given to you by the Creator, is what makes you human. Droids may be programmed to act human, but they never could be. Intelligent or not, they do not have a soul. Ethicists, theologians, etc., still debate whether or not clones would have souls or not... we may never know the answer... some things only God knows, but I think they would have souls. Of course, I'm hoping we never have to deal with human cloning....
  Bai Ahzur
Bai Ahzur's usless, but hopefully entertaining, yet somewhat eneventful, however rewarding, blog.
date Posted: Jan 23, 2006 4:52 PM
We already are mate.
  EvilDarthBear
The Grand Admiral's Club
date Posted: Feb 07, 2006 7:21 PM
The meaning of life is not about what you have at the end, its what you leave behind in people......boy....that was lame-sounding...hehe
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