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 | Could Padme ever accept Darth Vader? |
 Hello all!
Could Padme ever accept Darth Vader?
I don't think she could.
It is clear she loved Anakin, but I don't think she would do absolutly anything for him i.e betray the Republic. For example, When Padme learnt what Anakin had done she could not take it.
As she said: I don't know you anymore. Anakin, you're breaking my heart. I'll never stop loving you, but you are going down a path I can't follow.
That is what is most important, Anakin has now become everything she has fought against for the past 13 years.
Also, how could Padme accept Anakin as a Sith when they have been trying to kill her for the past 13 years, I mean would she really believe that Sidious would help keep her alive? When in Episode 1 he sent Darth Maul to kill her and in Episode 2 Dooku attempted to execute her.
It's like these things had not happened from Anakin's point of view.
What do you lot think?
MTFBY ALL!
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Darth_Hiram
A Journey into The Force
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date Posted: May 23, 2007 9:22 AM
you're right ... he was going on a path she could not follow. she knew it was wrong what he had done at the Jedi Temple most of all. how could she trust their own offspring with him?
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WifeofVader
Tales from the Death Star
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date Posted: May 23, 2007 11:24 AM
It's like these things had not happened from Anakin's point of view.
You know, I've never thought of that this way. He fights to find her assassins and then, for all intents and purposes, he becomes one of them. This is exactly what Palpatine wanted him to do. (sorry, I am mixing movies with EU there)
She obviously couldn't accept him as he was and the path he was taking. He wanted her to but, she just couldn't do it.
Like so many couples, they had severely grown apart. He did what he wanted to and she just couldn't support it.
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jedi_beth93
The best star wars humour site ever
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date Posted: May 23, 2007 12:40 PM
'He did what he wanted to'
I'm not sure I agree with that. Anakin did what he thought he HAD to do, he didn't want to betray the Jedi at first.
I don't think Padme would have joined Vader, but she may have done everyhing she possibly could to get her Ani back. Personally I woulda taken a frying pan with me, smashed it over his head, knocking him out, getting C-3p0 to help me drag him onto the ship, flew to Naboo, put him in chains and slapped him silly, whilst lecturing him on the whole what about the babies, what about me ladeda.
It's all Obi-Wan's fault! If he hadn't popped up at that moment, Padme may have gotten Anakin to see sense...
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Fish1941
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date Posted: May 23, 2007 12:59 PM
I don't know. I really don't know if Padme could ever accept Vader. Granted, she seemed unwilling to do so at first. But love is a strange thing. It can make the person do the unaccepted. And I guess I will be the only to admit that I have no idea on whether Padme would have remained unwilling to accept Vader.
Also, how could Padme accept Anakin as a Sith when they have been trying to kill her for the past 13 years The only time the Sith tried to kill Padme was in AOTC . . . and only at the bequest of Nute Gunray.
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darthtravis10
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date Posted: May 23, 2007 3:06 PM
fish1941 i personaly agree with the fact that the sith were trying to kill padme a few times in the last 13 yrs. on naboo qui-gon tells her (from memory) theirs something else is behind all his they will kill you if you stay. also in AOTC they try and kill padme three times, one on the ship and the second in her bedroom, and the third when nute gunray says,"jango finish her off, and cont dooku says, patience viceroy patience she will die. and although i dont know what happened in the three years of the clone wars it is obvious they werent happy she was still alive.
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darthtravis10
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date Posted: May 23, 2007 3:18 PM
now on to my personal views about the blogs, i believe that padme would never have accepted vader... but i do believe when she was talking to andakin and said (from memory) i dont know you anymore, your going down a path i can not follow, becuase of obi-wan, because of what youve done, what you plan to do, the jedi turned agianst me, dont you turn against me,
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darthtravis10
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date Posted: May 23, 2007 3:18 PM
ani come away with me, leave this all behind while you still can, i love you, liar you brought him here to kill me no.. anakin... no... let her go anakin, let her go, you turned her against me...! i believe that padme was reaching anakin, he was seeing that she really loved him and wasnt following him just becuase of obi-wan but becuase it went against her morales, then obi-wan apeared enraging anakin and making him believe that padme and obi-wan were plotting against him.
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Jade Sabre777
A luminous being, I am...
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date Posted: May 23, 2007 3:38 PM
Good question. I don't think she'd ever accept Vader, but I'm sure she'd never stop loving Anakin and trying to bring him back to the light. Kind of a "I love you but I don't love your behavior" sort of thing. That is interesting how Ani never seemed to put 2 and 2 together and realize that he was joining the man that tried to kill his wife on numerous occasions. Although whether Sidious did that because he hated Padme or because the Viceroy wanted her dead is unclear.
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Fish1941
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date Posted: May 23, 2007 3:45 PM
I don't think it is a good idea to say "never". That's equivalent to saying one can predict the future. And I'm not psychic. If Padme had survived the events of Mustafar, I don't know if she would turn her back on Anakin for good. I don't think that anyone really knows . . . save for George Lucas. And even he might have changed his mind if he had allowed Padme to survive. In TPM, Darth Sidious wanted Padme captured so that she could sign the treaty with the Trade Federation. He couldn't care less whether Padme was dead or alive in ROTS, although Anakin nearly strangled her on Mustafar. Only in AOTC, did it seem that the Sith wanted her dead . . . and only at the request of Nute Gunray of the Trade Federation.
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Darth Sleep
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date Posted: May 23, 2007 7:38 PM
Depending on your point view, if you think like Obi-Wan, then she will never accept or even like him since "Vader" is the one that betrayed and murdered her husband.
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Fish1941
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date Posted: May 24, 2007 9:11 AM
But does Padme think like Obi-Wan? She was still harboring the belief that there was still "some good" within her husband, on her deathbed.
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Darth Sleep
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date Posted: May 24, 2007 10:21 AM
Which Luke proved correct in ROTJ. So I guess what we just proved was that Padme was right, and Obi-Wan was wrong.
As far as Padme, I do think she would have went with him. She had already broken her own rules about marriage to Anakin as she stated in AOTC at the "safehouse". I don't see why she wouldn't continue following him. In fact when she finally admitted to him that she loved him in the arena, it looked like he had already accepted she wouldn't marry him.
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