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Was he ever free?

by: Anakin/Vader16

date posted: Dec 29, 2005 5:52 AM

Was he ever free?

Was poor Anakin ever truly free in his life? If you think about it he never was. When he was young he was a slave to Watto and the Hutt. So along comes Qui-gon and Obi-wan to take him to the Jedi Council. He becomes a Jedi but barely. None of the Council trust him. So even when he is a Jedi the Council makes him stay with Obi so he is watched. Then he kills Mace, younglings, etc..... and is now Vader. He fights with Obi-wan, gets all his real limbs cut off and a new black suit. So now he thinks he can do anything. But even Sidious has him on a short leash and fears he may kill him. I mean he even makes Vader a wimp. Just look at him in the movies. He is liked a scared puppy. So the only time he is free is when he finally dies and becomes one with the Force to join Yoda and his old master. Comments are welcomed at this time.

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littlethree

date Posted: Dec 29, 2005 6:55 AM

The only time I can think of when Anakin was free when he was alive was when his son was calling out to him and he made a decision to destroy the Palpatine and when he was talking to his son with his mask off...and then he goes and dies. Then he was free in death.

I've thought about this before, and glad to see a blog about it. Born into slavery, then slave to the Jedi (he couldn't really do what he wanted, he was hurting as a Jedi), he was even becoming a slave to Palpatine when he was still a Jedi slave, then slave to Palpatine as Vader. You could also say he was a slave to his fears and all sorts of other emotions. His emotions controlled him, rather than him working with them freely.

jeditee
The Jedi Diaries

date Posted: Dec 29, 2005 7:11 AM

Hello, Anakin/Vader 16!

What a thought-provoking entry!

I understand your POV, but it's also good to bear in mind that Anakin made a good many decisions on his own. As you'll no dout recall, he was part of the Jedi Order, but he certainly didn't do everything which the Order required of him. He had a good deal of freedom in this respect. As a matter of fact, he was even more of a rogue than Qui-Gon Jinn, doing things like cruising off to other planets, slaughtering villages full of people, and getting married (without the knowledge or consent of the Jedi Order).

To be continued...

jeditee
The Jedi Diaries

date Posted: Dec 29, 2005 7:11 AM

Here's the continuation...

Additionally, I realize that Qui-Gon bartered with Watto for Anakin, but once Qui-Gon died, Ani was his own person, choosing to become a Jedi. And nobody was forced to remain a Jedi (there were several who left the Order and followed their own path). So it was by choice that Anakin remained a Jedi for a while, and it was by choice that he joined the Sith. He freely made these decisions for himself.

Very truly yours,
-jeditee

	Anakin/Vader16 Was he ever free?
date Posted: Dec 29, 2005 7:11 AM h I agree about the emotions part and how they controlled him

	Anakin/Vader16 Was he ever free?
date Posted: Dec 29, 2005 7:14 AM I agree that he did make many of his own choices but he was sort of forced to. Where would he go if he left the Order? I agree with you on that but i still think he wasnt free much of his life

Kenobi-fan
The Jundland Wastes Journal

date Posted: Dec 29, 2005 8:52 AM

Anakin was enslaved to the Hutts and Watto from a very early age. Following this, he was tied to a strict monastic order, with rules of conduct regarding love, marriage, and societal behavior. He wasn't even allowed to retrieve his mother, who was still a slave. As a result, Anakin decided to live a double-life, one that clashed with everyone and everything, even his own beliefs. Adding to this, his 'fatherless' birth and prophetic possibilities coupled with incredible abilities, caused most everyone to eye him with suspicion, doubt, and greed. Anakin may have been responsible for his choices, but few respected him or viewed him as a 'person' as opposed to an 'oddity'. A view virtually guaranteed to produce a bad result.

littlethree

date Posted: Dec 29, 2005 6:13 PM

Sure Anakin made choices, and so-called "bad" choices. But how and where does one learn to make "good" choices? Being born into "slavery" and not brought out until he was very old, compared to the average Padawan, he already had pre-conceived ideas about the world and how it treats him and what he had to do to survive in it. He had a "rambuncious" attitude when they found him on Tattooine, a product of the "conditioning" of living life as a slave. Shmi did as best as she could, but her world was slavery too and she had to survive in the same way. Much of our "core" learning comes at that early age. The foundation was set. Very difficult to change that foundation.

Yoda was very right...he was too old to begin the training.

littlethree

date Posted: Dec 29, 2005 6:25 PM

Anakin could have made better choices, but no one took the time to give him the attention he needed. They just threw him into the same old training. When the same ol' wasn't going to work with this boy. Seems like the Jedi order was very sloppy with him. Since Yoda thought him too old, they should've known Anakin was gonna have problems. Qui-Gon was so sure he was the Chosen One, but he didn't have enough time to convince anyone. I don't know if anyone really every believed it fully, except Qui-Gon. Out of love for Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan obstinantly told Yoda he was gonna train the boy. No one really knew what they were getting into, never realized that Anakin needed much more attention and a different approach.

littlethree

date Posted: Dec 29, 2005 6:33 PM

The fact they gave him the same 'ol training, tells me they were sloppy and tells me they didn't believe he was the chosen one. Else, you would think if the Jedi believed it, they would've done everything they could for this "chosen one", taken into account his late start, explored his past influences, "counseled" him in a theraputic way, developed special ways of training him and had a "team" of people working with the boy. They didn't take care of the past influences. And those early years were where he learned to be who he was and how to approach the world. The Jedi training only gave him tools and "tricks"; it was like giving a gun to a 5 year old.

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