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date posted: Oct 01, 2005 4:14 AM  |  updated: Oct 01, 2005 4:15 AM
Qui-Gon's Only Mistake
Qui-Gon Jinn.
Often viewed as a renegade, a wayward warrior of the Jedi Order who refused to tow the line. Jinn wasn't above using the Force to influence situations, manipulate turns of events for what he believed was the greater good. Perhaps even right down to the nature of his own death.
But what if Qui-Gon, in his own rebellious way, was right? What if his new, fresh approach to the teachings of the Jedi had been the true path?
Yoda had been training Jedi for 800 years, and it seems that his attitudes and tactics changed little over the years, while the galaxy - an ever changing environment - changed around him.
Jinn had a different view. He believed in the living Force, and yet he also believed in the prophecy of the Chosen One, an ancient teaching that said one would come to bring balance to the Force.
Anakin was certainly the Chosen One, but who would teach him? Qui-Gon? No. When he took the boy under his tutelage to the Council they rejected him. So Jinn knew he needed to do something special to bring Ani into the fold. And during the fight against Maul, a foe that Jinn knew was more powerful than he was, he found the way.
Meditate, prepare for the next level and become one with the Force.
But was Qui-Gon the first to do this? How did he achieve it? And why?
We know that, as Ben said to Vader, "If you destroy me now I'll become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."
Did Jinn know that from beyond the grave, where he was past physical harm or dark influence, he could dictate events to the Jedi's advantage? Ben followed the same path as his master to great effect.
But as a consequence of this Anakin was passed into the care of Obi Wan Kenobi. And we know that, while he got things right with Luke, he got things disaterously wrong with Anakin.
So, my question. Was Qui-Gon's biggest error allowing Anakin to pass into the care of Obi Wan and his training?

  AnAkAiNsOlO
Star Wars: The Final Frontier
date Posted: Oct 01, 2005 4:57 AM
Interesting, very interesting, you know, only the other day, I watched TPM for the first time in ages, and I said to my sister, "Why does Qui-Gon, after Obi-Wan is pushed away, jump down to engage Maul? He knows Maul is stronger, why not wait for his apprentice to gain them the numbers advantage." Watch the film again, Qui-Gon has all the time in the world to wait for Obi-Wan, but he rushes in to attack Maul, strange, meditate on this I will, :D
  jedimaster13109
Meditations of a Star Wars Fan
date Posted: Oct 01, 2005 7:00 AM
I don't know. i would not go so far as to say Qui-Gon sacrificed himself so Anikin would be trained. Even if he hadn't died he still could have had Obi-wan train him.
  Osilio Remus
date Posted: Oct 01, 2005 8:28 AM
I think he died willingly, he knew that the Jedi had to change but they would never do that. So if Anakin would be trained they had to change...
  mubos
date Posted: Oct 01, 2005 10:07 AM
i wouldnt call it a mistake. qui-gon had great faith in obi wan's abilities, maybe overconfidant, that he could train anakin better than himself. obi wan being made a jedi knight and having an apprentice foisted on him straight away,and that apprentice being the prophicyed "chosen one", would have applied a lot of pressure and obi wan would not want to let his old master down and tryed to hard to train anakin and mold him into the perfect jedi and please the order instead of focusing on the kind of person anakin was and treating him as such.
  the_real_chozen_one
date Posted: Oct 01, 2005 11:45 AM
besides obi was about to pass the trials. even the council was going to discuss it later. they just said first things first, take care of this sith guy. besides anakin didnt fall because of obi's training, even yoda said he was doing a good job with him, but anakin knew he was the chozen one and it ll went to hi head. it was his own fault
  Obi-Tyler
Master Obi-Tyler's Blog Archive.
date Posted: Oct 01, 2005 1:57 PM
I wouldn't say Qui-Gon sacrificed himself, b/c Anakin would have probably never gone to the dark side if Jinn had trained him, I woud say it was just a cheap move on Jinn Maul hitting him in the face with the hilt of his lightsaber.
  goofygunganofdoom
date Posted: Oct 01, 2005 7:03 PM
I simply think maul over powered him. surely he was doing just what it looks like in the ray shield. resting. i believ he would have died anyway.
  goofygunganofdoom
date Posted: Oct 01, 2005 7:04 PM
I simply think maul over powered him. surely he was doing just what it looks like in the ray shield. resting. i believ he would have died anyway.
  Xqun
date Posted: Oct 02, 2005 5:13 AM
I agree with Osilio Remus
I dont think it would be hard for Qui Gon to kill Maul ,afterall, he had a strong connection to the force..
  Darth Desimus
date Posted: Oct 12, 2005 3:46 AM
Great blog. Although he was a relatively weak jedi, Qui Gon has always been my favourite character out of the prequel Jedi simply because he was a pretty cool guy who actually had some flexibility. Anakin wouldn't have turned had Qui Gon been around.

Both Yoda and Obiwan were way too inflexible to ever bring out the best in Anakin. Even after they loose the whole republic they remain as dogmatic as ever. Yoda fans are even now arguing that Yoda fled from Sidious because he gained some greater insight into beating the sith further down the line! pah rubbish, qui gon was the only jedi with any real imgaination (I might include Mace to alesser extent)
  Darth Desimus
date Posted: Oct 12, 2005 3:47 AM
P.S Cool as he was Qui Gon was clearly no match for Maul, even Obiwan had to have a bit of sneaky luck to beat him.
  Fish1941
date Posted: Jul 05, 2006 2:22 PM
I don't think that Qui-Gon had sacrificed himself. Nor do I believe that he had simply allowed Anakin to pass into the care of Obi-Wan. I believe that his death had come as a surprise to him. I also believe that the only reason he wanted Obi-Wan to train Anakin, was because he feared that the Jedi Council would never accept Anakin into the Order.

But once they did accept Anakin, Obi-Wan should have realized that perhaps an older and experienced knight should train the nine year-old.
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