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Smugglers Rants
date posted: Oct 14, 2005 10:51 AM  |  updated: Oct 15, 2005 1:47 AM
What's Changed?
They say it's impolite to ask a ladies age, but then again I'm a bloke so I guess it doesn't matter.
I'm 34 so I count myself among the fans who saw Star Wars on it's initial release. Same with Empire and Jedi. I've been a die-hard all the way through and have been thrilled all the way (alterations to Han vs Greedo aside).
But I have noticed as the years have gone by that there is a definite change in the way fans embrace the sagas two trilogies.
Before, I don't believe fans would have been so engrossed by the "Treknology" aspect of Star Wars (and if some take offence to that phrase, bear with me - it's there for a reason). I've been reading Karen Traviss' excellent blogs (how she gets the time to write is beyond me -hope she has time to answer the interview questions I'm sending her next week for Lightsabre) and she, as a writer, has to walk the fine line between being a sci-fi writer and making her sci-fi make sense to nit-picking fans.
For my money, hard sci-fi has no place in the Star Wars universe. The Force never needed to be explained in detail, neither does hyperdrive. But in Star Trek for example, these aspects would require explanation. Because Trek is sci-fi, while Wars is space fantasy. It's like expecting Tolkein to explain in hard scientific ways how the Balrog stays alight, or how Gandalfs magics work.
I read a cool blog today written about the age-old Trek vs Wars situation, which thankfully has died down to be replaced by similar sad and petty fueddettes. That was what made me think about this subject. Why are modern Star Wars fans different to old timers like me?
There could be reasons. In the 70's all you had were comics, novels and toys to see you through the summer holidays. Now kids are on the internet, browsing through thousands of sites dedicated to the saga. They have the films on DVD or at least video. There are dozens of novels and comics coming out regularly. In short, back in the 70's and 80's we were fed a restricted diet of Star Wars - and in a way that was a good thing, because we were hungry for it. Now it's everywhere, and so part of its exclusive magic has worn away.
Also, back in the late 70's sci-fi was nowhere near as prolific on TV. Just from memory there was Battlestar Galactica, Buck Rogers, Dr Who, Blakes 7, Sapphire and Steel, The Tomorrow People - no Star Trek, Farscape, Stargate, Andromeda or any of the other multitude of shows that came after TNG's launch in 1987.
Maybe that's it? Maybe the newer fans feel a kind of..jealousy? They don't know about seeing The Making of Star Wars on the TV, or the Holiday Special. They've only ever known the Star Wars Radio Drama on crisp shiny CD's and not heard them on Radio One during the summer. They don't know who C.Y.R.I.L is (that's one for the old UK fans). In short, maybe they feel late coming to the party?
I sincerely hope they don't, because Star Wars is for everyone. I have two nephews under 5 who just have no idea how many Star Wars toys they'll be getting for Christmas over the next few years...
Back then we took Star Wars at face value, the lads grew through puberty worshipping Carrie Fisher (still do), the girls worshipping Harrison (or Peaches as he is occasionally called). Anything with Lucas, Ford, Hamill, Baker, ILM or any tangiable link to Star Wars we ate it up. Spielberg came under that umberella too, as George and Steven ruled the box office during the 80's.
Now there are so many other things to do that we didn't have - Playstations (still have my Atari 2600 somewhere), mobile phones, computers, music trends (it was Adam and the Ants and anything mod for me), fashion (oh, when are flares coming back in? And tank tops! I liked looking like Benny from Grange Hill, and I'm not even black!). I guess in the 70's, when the Fonz was still cool, Farah Fawcett Majors was the new Monroe and Kevin Keegan was everyone's favourite football (soccer) player Star Wars changed our universe completely, like the Beatles breaking out.
Today Star Wars is just another franchise.
Thank goodness it's by far the best one.

  Rogueish
W.I.E.R.D.
date Posted: Oct 14, 2005 1:27 PM
Best blog I've ever seen. From one Brit 34 year old to another: "you rock, dude."

From my point of view, having rolled my eyes at 90% of blogs on this site, and knowing full well that most of them are from under 20 year olds, it's as simple as this: us oldsters hate kids.

However, in their defence, I'm sure I would have been seen as a worthless blogger in 1983, had home computers been invented.
  Lieutenant Wiggum Jansen
DETENTION BLOG AA23
date Posted: Oct 14, 2005 1:43 PM
Nothing has changed all these years. To this day there are no two fans alike.

I'm a34 year old fan, I love all six episodes with equal affection. The nice thing about the Episodes is that they are like the fans. No two are alike.

I'm not really an EU person (Traviss is the only thing I've read recently that I enjoyed).
  jedimaster13109
Meditations of a Star Wars Fan
date Posted: Oct 14, 2005 3:20 PM
Mostly I would say that since Star Wars isn't as popular as it was in the 80s it has opened the way for the fans to not be so much into Star Wars this, or Star Wars that but the fans have once again returned to the movies and analyzing them on sites like this.
  jediknight2210
Where did you dig up that old fossil?
date Posted: Oct 14, 2005 3:28 PM
Er....... I don't know if this is my place here on this blog since im only *gulp* 16 nearly 17.

But yeah this is a good blog. I really wish I could have lived back than when SW ruled all (of course in my POV it does) I just mean in everyone elses POV.
  Diviner525
In the Flesh
date Posted: Oct 14, 2005 8:13 PM
I love that we have more access to Star Wars, and I'm not sure age has anything to do with it. Of course, there are differences between the Star Wars generations, and that is what is so cool about all of this.

It speaks to the legends that George Lucas touched upon that cross cultural (as well as genrational) differences.

D525.
janlomona
Smugglers Rants
date Posted: Oct 15, 2005 1:45 AM
Best blog I've ever seen. From one Brit 34 year old to another: "you rock, dude."
No Roguish, you rock!
Nothing has changed all these years. To this day there are no two fans alike.
Agree with you there Wiggum, we all like different aspects of the saga.
the fans have once again returned to the movies and analyzing them on sites like this.
I think that may be the big difference in the two eras Jedimaster
Er....... I don't know if this is my place here on this blog since im only *gulp* 16 nearly 17
Can I see your ID please?
It speaks to the legends that George Lucas touched upon that cross cultural (as well as genrational) differences.
Amen to that.
  vaderqueen45
date Posted: Oct 15, 2005 4:21 PM
i think the difference is that in the origional trilogy everyone hates vader but after seeing 1,2and3 Anakin is so loveable that you cant and dont want to hate him !! you actually feel bad for him.I pesonally after seeing 1-6 am angry at obi-wan for degrading anakin to the peak of his anger "My young Pattowan" syas obi-wan he has a name you know just because he is a pattowan does not mean that he is not powerful. after seeing 1-6 i cant hate vader i actually think he is my favorite character!:D
  vaderqueen45
date Posted: Oct 15, 2005 4:23 PM
i agree with janlomona:D
  Frostor
date Posted: Oct 15, 2005 7:36 PM
I got into SW later in the game, around the time of the SEs, but I'm in my 20s. I sort of consider myself part of what I call the "Luke Skywalker Generation" of SW fans. By that I mean, like Luke with the Jedi, I'm between the old and the new. I think that contributes to why I equally appreciate both halves of the saga while many do not. I've made up for lost time, but I don't feel jealous of the older fans' experiences, nor do I feel spoiled by the amount of SW stuff available now. It's just a great modern mythic saga, and I'm glad that it's still popular, if not as ubiquitous as it once was.
  jediknight2210
Where did you dig up that old fossil?
date Posted: Oct 16, 2005 9:10 PM
Can I see your ID please?

Ah....er........*runs off*
  oyjaswf
date Posted: Oct 23, 2005 1:35 AM
Hey, you could write a blog detailing more exactly what it was like at that time, us kids had no idea! The amt of stuff available doesn't have too much influence: most of our parents aren't very willing to spend the $$$ onthem...:D
vaderqueen45, Ani does seem young to Obi, you cant blame him for that You're a fan of Ani, I 'm a fan of Obi's, so some opinions might clash
And... I'm 12 if you're interested and You don't need to see my ID
I love theese Jedi mind tricks!!!:^O
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