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Smugglers Rants
date posted: Sep 25, 2005 9:09 AM  |  updated: Sep 30, 2005 3:57 AM
Ben Kenobi - Palpatines New Best Friend
Here's one to think about.
When Anakin killed Dooku he was coerced into doing it by Palpatine (even though not so deep down he probably wanted to do it anyway as revenge for losing his arm)
When Palpatine fought Mace he was scarred and changed by Vaapad and the force lightning Mace turned back on him.
Fighting Yoda would have taken it out of him too (for my money that's the real big battle in ROTS. While Ben and Ani fight over love, Ani's soul and a fractured friendship gone bad, Yoda and Palps are the true embodiment of Light vs Dark, Jedi vs Sith...Empire vs Rebellion in a way).
But, when it comes down to it the best thing, from the Emperors point of view, was Anakin being burned in the lava. A full-powered Darth Vader would have eventually killed Palps, and he knew that. So did Anakin - he said it to Padme on Mustafar and Luke on Bespin.
But Ben hacking Vader to pieces broke him body and spirit. Putting him in the armour trapped him. Telling him of Padme's death, by his own hand, gave him nowhere else to go. The only people who could have helped him had been slain by his own hand. Less than he was but still powerful, Vader was the perfect tool for Palpatine. He had a titan that he could control. Without the dip in the lava he could have controlled Anakin for so long, but only for so long.
So, my point is - did Kenobi do Palpatine a VERY big favour defeating Vader in the manner he did?

  Darth Kevinmhk
date Posted: Sep 25, 2005 9:24 AM
nice blog... well i never thought it that way.

Well.... Yes, Obi-Wan did Palpatine a great favour....
but thank god this is not Obi-Wan's intention.
  Osilio Remus
date Posted: Sep 25, 2005 9:24 AM
Yeah that's true... acctualy it's true. man youre on clever son of a cow..
  jediknight2210
Where did you dig up that old fossil?
date Posted: Sep 25, 2005 9:27 AM
Yeah i agree with the last 2 comments, awesome blog, that is an cool way to look at it.
  Ki-Adi-Andy
A Tremor In The Force....
date Posted: Sep 25, 2005 9:35 AM
Nice blog. I agree with you. A question I have is, After ROTS, did palpatine really need Vader that much?
  darkqueen3
Lord Vader... Yes Master RISE
date Posted: Sep 25, 2005 10:33 AM
THat was a good blog I would of never thought of it that way. But I agree with Darth Kevinmhk Obi-Won did give PAlpatine a huge favor
  TIE hunter exrordinair 2
date Posted: Sep 25, 2005 10:39 AM
Wow, never thought of it that way! I bet Obi-Wan was slapping his forhead for that one!
  darthvader1053
shoudn`t the sith have anther color then red
date Posted: Sep 25, 2005 10:43 AM
I wonder wat the triolgy would be like if Anakin didnt go in the vader yes he would kill sidous but wat else?
  darthvader1053
shoudn`t the sith have anther color then red
date Posted: Sep 25, 2005 10:44 AM
whoops Vader suite
  shatterpoint282
''This Party's Over ''
date Posted: Sep 25, 2005 11:34 AM
Great blog and yeah Obi accidently did old Sid a favor by dissecting Anakin . Of course he didn't mean to but still .But [haha]Vader ended up killin Sid anyway.
  skywalker27199
date Posted: Sep 25, 2005 11:55 AM
no i don't think he likes him at all!!!!!!!
Tyranus2005
Tyranus Rumblings
date Posted: Sep 25, 2005 3:09 PM
I agree with your line of thinking. Check out my blog about why Palp didn't just roll Anakin in the lava and find a new apprentice.

Palp now has the strongest and most powerful Jedi at his disposal. One who is fueled by anger, hate and a thirst for revenge. A man who's sense of self-loathing must be pretty deep. Rebuild this into a killing machine and your in business to have a one great henchman.

Tyranus
  spartin2008
What do u think???
date Posted: Sep 25, 2005 7:48 PM
I like your blog. Anyway i think Obi-wan did it on pupous so he could die in a hounorable way!!! Of course it was an accident but i argree with the fact that he did do him a big favor. But what if Obi-wan would have been killed by grevious??? Did u ever think about that???
janlomona
Smugglers Rants
date Posted: Sep 26, 2005 9:49 AM
Ben dying at the hand of Grevious would have been a real spanner in the works. For Palps it would have been a bonus because he would have already had Anakin, and all that would need to be done would be for Vaderkin to take out Grevious. No fight with Ben neccesary. But then how to deal with Padme. Palps needed her out of the way (or else he would lose the fear factor that was his controlling influence over Ani). How would Padme then be eliminated? Probably in a very simple way I guess, it wouldn't matter.
  Darth Prophetus
date Posted: Sep 26, 2005 2:28 PM
I agree. Ben did, in a way do Sidious a big favor.
However, I keep on hearin about how the suit made Vader so much weaker. I can agree with that to some extent, but the mechanical parts did give Vader superhuman strength, and not to mention a more intimidating appearance. Also, in the fight with Luke in ESB, that metal suit saved him his arm. Anyway, just something to think about.
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