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From the Desk of Ghent
by: Ghent
date posted: Jun 20, 2005 12:30 AM  | 
updated: Jun 20, 2005 12:48 AM
SW Exegesis: How does Leia remember Padme?
Episode III reveals that Padme dies of a broken heart shortly after the birth of the twins. So how can her daughter, Leia, have memories of her more than 20 years later?

It's worth noting that the film doesn't get specific about the time frame between the birth and mother's death. It could be minutes, it could be hours. I think it's reasonable to say that the intent is less than 24 hours, since it is inter-cut with the re-construction of Anakin. By the time the Vader suit is on, Padme is dead and Anakin's medical needs seem pretty urgent. Suffice to say that regardless of a timeframe or minutes or hours, it seems fast for Leia to have made memories.

Yes, Leia's talking about Padme
I've seen it suggested that Leia is speaking of her adopted mother (the Queen of Alderaan, Bail's wife) rather than Padme. Let's look at the exchange...

LUKE: Leia... do you remember your mother? Your real mother?
LEIA: Just a little bit. She died when I was very young.

Asking someone if they remember their real mother is really gutsy, unless you've had previous conversations establishing that they are adopted. In that context, the "your real mother" clarification definitely means biological mother.

If they hadn't previously discussed it, Leia would have replied, "How did you know I was adopted?" (assuming Leia knows), or "What do you mean my real mother? I have only one mother."

Besides, if it's not Padme then this exchange has no dramatic meaning.

Images and Feelings
So, what does Leia claim she can remember?

LUKE: What do you remember?
LEIA: Just images, really. Feelings.
LUKE: Tell me.
LEIA: She was very beautiful. Kind, but sad.

It is certainly common for every day people to describe their earliest memories in terms of emotions and images. These impressions may or may not be accurate, but feel real. Typically specific lasting memories are not formed until a few years into life, but there are exceptions. This may or may not be true in the Star Wars universe.

While it is in no way critical to this discussion, nor can it be backed up by movie evidence, it is even possible that Bail at some point showed Leia a photograph of her biological mother. It is commonplace for the brain to mix memories of images with memories of the actual event.

Memories or Visions?
Yoda tells Luke, "Through the Force, things you will see. Other places. The future... the past. Old friends long gone."

The movies imply that Leia is Force sensitive. It is certainly possible that while growing up, Leia received visions of her mother through the Force. Visions of the past, precisely as Yoda describes.

Notice that Luke's Force vision of the future also came in images and feelings, "I saw a city in the clouds" and "They were in pain".

Pre-Birth Connection
It is also possible the Leia's impressions of her mother formed before her birth. What can the films tell us about this?

Yoda says of the Force, "Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you. Here, between you, me, the tree, the rock. Yes, even between the land and the ship."

Yoda is certainly not placing the burden of conscience or will, or even sentience, on the connections the Force will make. Life-to-life seems to be the only requirement. (Are rocks alive?) A mother-daughter binding in the Force existed in some form.

It is inconclusive as to whether the general connection in the Force of all things is enough for specific awareness or not. Certainly Padme is not aware of both twins. Then again, Padme is not portrayed as a Force user, so we can't necessarily expect her to feel these Force connections.

Qui-Gon explains to Anakin, "Midi-chlorians are a microscopic life form that resides within all living cells and communicates with the Force." Again, this is a clear description of the nature of the communication and connection in the Force to be an involuntary one, happening without need of will or consciousness.

It is safe to assume that as a feared offspring of Anakin, Leia has a midi-chlorian count that is at least above average if not exceptional. In the months Leia was in the womb, there would have been a lot of Force-based communication and connection with her mother, whether Leia was aware of it or not, leaving cellular, midi-chlorian, and even "real" memories of Padme.

Conclusions
Exceptionally early memory-making, later-in-life visions from the Force, or pre-consciousness connection through the Force are all viable reasons why Leia would have formed lasting memories of Padme in the minutes or hours they shared in a medical room together.

This isn't a plot hole.

Beyond What we "Know"... My Thoughts
My personal opinion cannot be backed up from the films, so I leave to you only as food for thought.

I believe that the highly Force sensitive twins were abnormally conscious and aware even in the womb, and that Leia's memories were more than passive, but were part of a real relationship formed before birth.

This line of thought is endorsed in the Star Wars expanded universe. In Dark Empire, Leia's unborn twins (Jacen and Jaina) lend their Force power to their mother, to help defeat Palpatine one last time.

Why not Luke?
I can hear many of you asking... OK, so why doesn't Luke remember? If you're the father of more than one child, you'll need little convincing that each sibling develops very differently... but perhaps I will tackle in more depth in the future.

Norway
Letters from Hoth
date Posted: Jun 20, 2005 3:57 AM
Sorry man. I just don't buy your arguments.

I guess the one that strikes the most plauability is your "Memories or Visions?" segment, backed up with the Yoda quote. Still, IMO not convincing enough and remains a plot hole.

However, I must say that your previous efforts were well conceived. Keep it up! :)
  mavrick889
Here's where the fun begins - timelines, continuity and that sort of thing
date Posted: Jun 20, 2005 7:36 AM
Good post. I think I'm convinced (I wrote a blog entry on why Leia might very well be talking about the Queen of Alderaan). I quick correction, though. It's an unborn Anakin Solo that helps defeat the Emperor in Dark Empire, not the Solo twins (who had already been born in The Last Command).
  edward10
date Posted: Jun 20, 2005 11:17 AM
i strongly agree with your blog and continue to think that you a very correct in you're connection
NerfHerdersAnonymous
Life, the Star Wars Universe and Everything
date Posted: Jun 20, 2005 12:15 PM
Exactly. That's exactly what I think as well, regarding Leia and her memories of Padmé. Thank you.
  ShariqAnsari
date Posted: Jun 20, 2005 1:08 PM
I've got to agree here; that's pretty much how I explained it to my sister. We also know from the EU that Leia's Force abilities manifest themselves most stronly as empathetic abilites; she's very receptive to others' feelings; this is part of what makes her such a good diplomat. It's entirely possible that as a child she was acutely aware of her mother's feelings through the Force, and because of her Force sensitivity, remembers that.
  Seb-X
Bet Heavily on Sebulba
date Posted: Jun 20, 2005 1:59 PM
I've only seen ROTS twice, but I'm of the opinion that Obi-Wan handed Luke off and was holding Leia near Padme when she both proclaimed there's still good in Anakin and died. Something that highly charged emotionally would be enough in my opinion that would create the connection Leia has with her real mom, versus Luke. I would have liked more, but this was good enough for me.
  napalm229
Republic Enemy: thoughts on the CIS
date Posted: Jun 20, 2005 7:27 PM
I think that you pretty much have it down! The only thing that I would add is that it seems that Leia was highly empathic, without any Force training. When Luke calls out to her in ESB she can feel it and knows to go to his aid. This natural empathic ability evidently manifested itself from birth. This is one of those things that GL could have elaborated on more, but shose not to due to movie length and not wanting to lose any momentum for the finale.

I also think that the holoimage thing is valid since we see images of Padme's past in the deleted scenes from Episode II. It is perfectly natural to assume that Bail had pictures of them together.

  Biff1138
Star Wars From A Certain Point Of View
date Posted: Jun 20, 2005 9:54 PM
The simplest solution is typically the correct one. As seen in the cut scenes from AotC in Padme's bedroom, pictures in the Star Wars universe are more akin to small film snippets. It seems most likely that Bail shared some of these with Leia at some point in time. What would be interesting to know is what exactly did Bail tell her about her parents.
  Darius, Lord Of The Sith
Thoughts From Darius
date Posted: Jun 20, 2005 10:28 PM
I think that the princess was probably at least given a little bit of information by Bail and may have seen holo-recordings of her, thus explaining that she remembers images. It is also likely that, given some knowledge of who her real mother was, Leia could then have drawn, unknowingly, on her force abilities to conjure up images in her mind of Padme and their brief interaction with one another, thus explaining her remembrance of feelings. Don't forget, Bail knew Padme very well and Leia's empathic abilities could also probably pull something from Bail's affection for her mother. Perhaps this is something that will be explored in the TV show.
  Darius, Lord Of The Sith
Thoughts From Darius
date Posted: Jun 20, 2005 10:29 PM
Since Luke was raised by the Lars family, who knew very little of his parents, we can assume that Luke was never given any idea of who his parents really were. We can see in ANH that Owen cuts Luke off when he mentions his father and that is most likely how most conversations about Luke's past went. Given no understanding of his roots, Luke would have nothing to draw on to conjure up a connection to his parents. Indeed, Luke probably does not learn how to use the Force to see the past until he is trained to do so by Yoda in ESB.

I went to see ROTS with some family members who are not as into Star Wars as I am and they all felt that Leia sensed Padme through the Force and I accept this.
  rfsdata19
date Posted: Jun 20, 2005 10:46 PM
I agree with the visions of the Force and the personal photos explanations. I also think of this a possible homage to Dune. If I recall correctly Aliyah was aware in the womb (and at birth) because of the influence of spice. Spice played a similar role to the Force.
  rfsdata19
date Posted: Jun 20, 2005 10:50 PM
For more on Alia (Aliyah above) go to http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/dune/section8.rhtml

It states "Melange (spice) also heightens the awareness of the unborn child inside Jessica, suggesting that Alia will also have to cope with superhuman powers. Both of Jessica's children, Alia and Paul, do not experience a normal childhood. Even in the womb, Alia is conscious of herself and her place in the history of the universe. She is never an innocent child, but instead she is born with the knowledge of all the sins, problems, and pains of the past."
Norway
Letters from Hoth
date Posted: Jun 21, 2005 2:48 AM
It amazes me how many readily buy into the "force connection" thing as though that was Lucas plan all along.

Isn't it possible that George didn't have the story fully sketched out when he made JEDI and thus figured Leia actually did spend more time with her Mom?

The argument that "Leia spent a few seconds longer with her Mom before she was wisked away and Padme dies." is just plain ridiculous. But whatever.
Norway
Letters from Hoth
date Posted: Jun 21, 2005 2:51 AM
The silly thing is (imo) that people buy into the notion that Leia has these "Force visions from the past" of her mother, but Luke - who is clearly stronger in the force and actually has some Jedi training - does not get these visions of his mum.

Isn't this a bit inconsistant?
Norway
Letters from Hoth
date Posted: Jun 21, 2005 2:55 AM
Oh and one final thing: Saying she remembers her mother based on holo pics that Bail showed her is outrageous.

LUKE: Leia, do you remember your mother? Your real mother?
LEIA: Just a little bit.


Does this not imply that she actually remembers her?

Why not face the facts that Lucas was making this up as he went along, and the dialogue is slightly faulty given the new facts.

Not a big deal, but surely nothing that should be claimed as "part of the plan all along."
  AnakinVader71
date Posted: Jun 21, 2005 3:59 AM
This is a PLOT HOLE ... a MISTAKE .... Simply GL forgot
To handle the matter of Leia and the memories about her mother ...
He could have handle that through ROTS movie ...
He had the chance to adapt it ... but he didn't ... he forgot ...
As he forgot to handle so many other points from the OT
(not to mention them here or now to keep the main topic intact) ...
No offense , But after all, GL is a HUMAN not a MACHINE
And he can make MISTAKES .... From time to time .....





  AnakinVader71
date Posted: Jun 21, 2005 5:03 AM
This is a PLOT HOLE ... a MISTAKE .... Simply GL forgot
To handle the matter of Leia and the memories about her mother ...
He could have handle that through ROTS movie ...
He had the chance to adapt it ... but he didn't ... he forgot ...

As he forgot to handle so many other points from the OT
(not to mention them here or now to keep the main topic intact) ...

No offense , But after all, GL is a HUMAN not a MACHINE
And he can make MISTAKES .... From time to time .....

  AnakinVader71
date Posted: Jun 21, 2005 5:06 AM
This is a PLOT HOLE ... a MISTAKE .... Simply GL forgot
To handle the matter of Leia and the memories about her mother ...

He could have handle that through ROTS movie ...
He had the chance to adapt it ... but he didn't ... he forgot ...


As he forgot to handle so many other points from the OT
(not to mention them here or now to keep the main topic intact) ...

No offense , But after all, GL is a HUMAN not a MACHINE
And he can make MISTAKES .... From time to time .....


Norway
Letters from Hoth
date Posted: Jun 21, 2005 6:14 AM
I think this AnakinVader71 dude got a little trigger happy with the "submit" button...
  Sithlordarthmaul
What was the significance of seeing Yoda's cloak falling after the fight with Sidious.
date Posted: Jun 21, 2005 7:10 AM
I looked at it as Bail must of obviously showed her pictures and talked to Leia about padme and as a result developed feelings and images of her. where as with Luke the Lar's would not know therefore not say anything about padme.
Either that or the fact she had a longer connection with her since she was born last??
I like the first one.
  Bartharror
date Posted: Jun 21, 2005 8:42 AM
I always felt that the premise for this association had to base itself in Bail's preservation of Padme's memory for Leia's sake. It would be easy for Leia to reconstruct a memory of her mother, given the technology available (we see a sampling of this in one of the deleted scenes from Padme's home on Naboo in Episode 2). Leia's power is somewhat limited in the force, so whatever impressions she receives of her mother would be vague. I think Lucas fully intended for the audience to relate to Leia the same way they did to Padme. Now that we have all seen all 6 episodes, doesn't it just thrill you to see that parallelism between the young Alderaanian senator in Ep4 and her mother in Ep1-3?
  KING T.J.
date Posted: Jun 21, 2005 9:35 AM
Hmmmmmmm. Has anyone asked Goerge Lucas about this?
  leiaremer
date Posted: Jun 21, 2005 9:52 AM
I read the scholastics book version of ROTS and in it baby Leia opened her eyes and memorized her mother. Baby Luke never opened his eyes too look at his mother. This is where Leia remembers her mom from and she looks beautiful but very sad. But that is only if you go along with what the books say. BTW, it wasn't in the Strover book this way, just the scholastic one. The both were written just a little bit different.
  Jawa-powa
date Posted: Jun 21, 2005 1:02 PM
The concept of the Force, as it was explained enough by Yoda in ESB, shows that in Star Wars movies, many peculiarities are easily dismissed by the fact that the power of the Force makes impossible things possible.

A safehaven, if you will, for the proclaimed inconsistencies and continuity ?'s between the PT and OT.
But the Legacy of Star Wars is imagination. Even for the viewers of it. To close the left-open doors that you find in the story, in your own way. In playtime, with the toys. (As my kids do since they have seen all the movies...'I'm getting too old for that sort of thing.':) )
  Jawa-powa
date Posted: Jun 21, 2005 1:03 PM
I imagine that Leia remembers Padme through the Force present in her, in dreams, or the images she spoke of. The Force has that ability on medichlorian carriers . ( Maybe GL at one time, or some of you fans would prefer a different layout in the plot about that in ROTS ) But with it being mysterious, that opens Imagination!! The Force is to be thanked for that. I think that is Lucas' intent all along.
  darthemma
date Posted: Jun 21, 2005 1:11 PM
I just don't buy the idea that Leia can but Luke can't see their mother. Leia was in a perfect position to learn about both her parents easily, especially because Padme and Bail were good friends, but Luke was not. Luke was denied information about his parents. I simply do not buy into the notion that she could figure it all out through just the force on her own, no less, when her skills were not as finely attuned as Luke's. Pointed in the right direction with guidance, perhaps.
  Senator Rachel
Star Wars For The PH.D. (Or At Least The Bachelor's Degree Holder)
date Posted: Jun 21, 2005 5:41 PM
I believe that the emotional memories Leia has were imprinted on her when she sensed her mother following her birth, her force sensitivity and Padme's strong feelings at that time only heightening this connection. I also think it is safe to assume that Bail did mention Padme to Leia as she grew older.
  Senator Rachel
Star Wars For The PH.D. (Or At Least The Bachelor's Degree Holder)
date Posted: Jun 21, 2005 5:41 PM
In Leia's position it would have been relatively safe to disclose such information (in comparison to Luke as he is the male and only one child was thought to have been born). Bail Organa's personal realtionship with Padme would have inspired such talk as well, whereas Beru and Owen didn't have the luxury of knowing Padme intimately. This combination, to me, seems a perfectly logical explanation for Leia's ability to speak on the matter upon Luke's inquiry. :)
MissPadme
Miss Padme's Naboo Love Nest
date Posted: Jun 21, 2005 6:34 PM
Very intelligent explanation...this is fantasy, folks, and it's not completely outside the realm of possibility that Leia formed her memories of Padmé (which were quite vague) in ways that are out of the ordinary and it's quite possible she might have seen a picture of Padmé sometime in her life.
Luminara Skye
My thoughts....
date Posted: Jun 22, 2005 7:34 AM
Thanks, Ghent, for your blog. I totally agree with you. However, there will always be people who feel it's still a plot hole. I've always thought Padme remembers her "real" mother and not Queen Breha. Now whether Leia picked her images and feelings directly from Padme at birth or Bail showed her a picture and told her something about her mother is anyone's guess. I'm satisfied with the way it has been done.
  arran_morik
date Posted: Jun 22, 2005 8:42 AM
I don't think it's a plot hole - it just leaves too much up to speculation. We can safely speculate this much - Leia knew their mother better than Luke did. As long as we can understand that, we can explain it however we wish since GL isn't about to say anything definitive so far.
  Pluto
date Posted: Jun 22, 2005 10:25 AM
I think it would be possible that Bail Organa`s wife dies just a few years after episode 3 and he marries a new wife that also adoptes Leia, so when Luke sais: Leia... do you remember your mother? Your real mother?, Leia believes he means the first wife of Bail Organa.
  Darthvegeta800000
date Posted: Jun 22, 2005 11:03 AM
Good arguments. Though my first interpretation was the same as Pluto's.
Food for thought indeed but just like EU opinions... usually never truly concluded.
  Yoda_mynameis
date Posted: Jun 22, 2005 12:04 PM
"Through the Force other things will you see: Other places, friends long gone..." Something like that. Anyhoo, my point: Yoda says this to Luke in Episode V, The Empire Strikes Back. So....me being a girl like Leia, I can see how she would wonder about what her mother must have been like. I'm sure her father talked highly of her. They were good friends. Leia could have seen her through the Force, and because she had been told about her before, she could have remembered the memories in the womb that were discussed earlier. That is my theory.
  mrl4214
date Posted: Jun 22, 2005 6:06 PM
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  Darius, Lord Of The Sith
Thoughts From Darius
date Posted: Jun 22, 2005 10:04 PM
Someone mentioned before that we're trying to say that this is not a plothole. I think we can all agree that this presents an inconsistency, we're just trying to speculate on what the official Lucas answer would be if he were inclined to answer these types of questions. There's no doubt that I always got the impression from ROTJ that Leia lived with her real mother for a few years. ROTS changed that perception, but I am not one to get bent out of shape by that. Some people do get angry over such inconsistencies.
  Darius, Lord Of The Sith
Thoughts From Darius
date Posted: Jun 22, 2005 10:04 PM
The only thing that does bug me is Obi-Wan's description of Anakin and how Uncle Owen didn't agree with his ideals. I think we have to chalk these up to 2 things... we know Lucas had to cut elements (that he brought back in ESB) from the story for ANH because he did not know if he would get to make more than 1 film and we know from ROTJ that most of what Obi-Wan tells Luke about Anakin in ANH was bunk.
  AnakinVader71
date Posted: Jun 23, 2005 2:40 AM
To whoever say that Leia remenbered Padme through the FORCE ....
if Leia is so powerful with the force to remember her real MOTHER
while Padme dead when Leia was just a born BABY ... !!!!

So, could anyone tell me plz:

1- Why didn't Leia sense - through the FORCE - that Darth Vader is
her FATHER when she met him while she was an ADULT in the very
early of ANH Movie?!


2- Why didn't she feel the same about her BROTHER Luke in ANH?!

3- Why she told Luke in ROTJ: "You've a Power I DONT have or understand" ?

[i]Well ..... Leia is NOT a FORCE SENSITIVE or a FORCE USER ....
and YES ....... THIS IS A PLOT HOLE IN SW SAGA ......

  AnakinVader71
date Posted: Jun 23, 2005 2:57 AM
AND .... to be very accurate ...
Here is the part of the conversation between Luke & Leia
which Proves that Leia was NEVER a FORCE USER ......

LEIA
Luke, don't talk that way. You have a power
I--I don't understand and could never have.

LUKE
You're wrong, Leia. You have that power too.
In time you'll learn to use it as I have. The
Force is strong in my family. My father has
it...I have it...and...my sister has it.

so, we can forget about that Leia remembered her mother
through the FORCE
  AnakinVader71
date Posted: Jun 23, 2005 3:46 AM
AND .... Before anyone gets me wrong ...
I'm NOT against GL .... I'm NOT against SW ....
I'm a real fan to both of the OT and the PT ....
but I dislike to find fans do their best to say GL
dont makes mistakes .... he meant so & so ...
he was referring to so & so ... and all that stuff ....

by another words:
THE PLOT HOLE IS A PLOT HOLE ...
THE MISTAKE IS A MISTAKE ...
and After all, it's just a MOVIE !!!!!!!!
Luminara Skye
My thoughts....
date Posted: Jun 23, 2005 7:26 AM
1- Why didn't Leia sense - through the FORCE - that Darth Vader is
her FATHER when she met him while she was an ADULT in the very
early of ANH Movie?!


Why should she? She was not aware that she had Force potential. Neither she nor Vader had any reason to suspect a connection to each other in the first place.

Luminara Skye
My thoughts....
date Posted: Jun 23, 2005 7:27 AM
2- Why didn't she feel the same about her BROTHER Luke in ANH?!

There was always an attraction between Luke and Leia and I don't think they understood it until they found out they were brother and sister. I would think their bond with each other would be stronger than the bond with their parents.

Luminara Skye
My thoughts....
date Posted: Jun 23, 2005 7:27 AM
3- Why she told Luke in ROTJ: "You've a Power I DONT have or understand" ?

Leia didn't know she had Force potential. Besides, how can you say Leia doesn't have this power? In ESB Leia does touch the Force when Luke calls to her after his fight with Vader. AND she senses that he is still alive at the end of ROTJ. She obviously does have Force potential.

Peace :D
  Young Kenobi1
date Posted: Jun 23, 2005 12:56 PM
Yeah, I agree w/ the blog. Luke prolly didn't have the powers, meybe b/c his aunt in #4 tells Owen "he's got too much of his father in him" Anikan didn't have those powers of sight or vision when he was little. So, maybe luke doesn't eithier. That's why Leia has those feelings and Luke doesn't. Unfortunatly, it was more a filming thing. They could not make the movie work right w/ the timing if Leia had to stay w/ her mother long enought to develop memories of her.

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  yedisan
date Posted: Jun 23, 2005 1:19 PM
Every married man knows about woman's "sixth" sense.
I think expirienced Lucas just sad what we all allredy knew about them.
Leia is a woman,a woman with the strong Force in her family!
Luke is wise,skillful,and inteligent.
But Leia is(compared to Luke)a master of foresieing,of introspection,of knowlege abot the past .Thru Force shee allways knew the Padme's face.
Leia always suspected that Luke is shees brother!.Luke was not so close in that feeling,Ben pushed him to that constatation!
  napalm229
Republic Enemy: thoughts on the CIS
date Posted: Jun 23, 2005 3:18 PM
Well, the Force is a mystery!!

That is the good thing about all of this. Some folks will feel that it is a plot hole. But i don't see this as true because GL wrote the movies is the first place and I would have to imagine that he has seen them at least once or twice since. When writing the scripts you would assume he at least brushed up on them to make the connections.

Not everything has to be set in stone, that is the nature of myth and the fact that we don't have concrete explanations for everything is what makes it work. Try to define magic. You can't because no one knows excatly what magic is. Same w/ the Force.

Don't think, feel. Use your instincts.
Master Ki-Aaron-Mundi
I was a Teenage Jedi
date Posted: Jun 23, 2005 8:48 PM
Well, Ghent, I did enjoy the blog. And while I agree your theories are reasonable, I'd say that everyone, when they first saw ROTJ, believe Leia was talking about her birth mother, and everyone, when they first saw ROTJ, believed Leia had spent a substantial amount of time with her mother, a year or two at the very least.

Not saying that this is a plot hole, just that I think Mr. Lucas' vision may have changed a bit.
Norway
Letters from Hoth
date Posted: Jun 24, 2005 2:54 AM
Not saying that this is a plot hole, just that I think Mr. Lucas' vision may have changed a bit.

I agree. And the "new vision" doesn't work 100%. At least not in a reasonable way.

You have to stratch quite a bit to make it work.

It would be interesting to hear Lucas' own explanation of this. :)
  yedisan
date Posted: Jun 25, 2005 4:57 AM


Force is strong with Leia obviously in the way somewhat different then Lukes.
Do not forget that Leia was never trained,she was without a mentor.Therefore she was,just like Luke before Ben instructed him,totaly anaware of the Force and of shees special powers.She cant control the Force therefore she is anable to interpret the results of it(Pictures from the past).

My feelings about this matter are clear.
  EthnVaderPhaser
date Posted: Jun 25, 2005 8:51 AM
I have always wondered how they would tie up this plot hole. When the movie finally came out I was disappointed that once again Lucas flubbed. (as he did with the whole Owen and Beru relationship to Anakin). The scene between Luke and Leia in ROTJ is pivotal I don't think it can be simply dismissed by a mere "oh darn I guess I don't really remember my actual member it was just a bunch of holo photos". Leia also says "she was very beautiful...kind...but sad". How could Leia have known her mother his kind unless she was able to interact with her? In describing her as sad, Leia implies that Padme spent time with her while still morning over Anakin's turn to the dark side.
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