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 | FIVE THINGS I LIKE ABOUT PALPATINE |
 Join me in a short trip down the dark path.... I promise we won't stay long... only long enough to satisfy our evil curiosity...
5. Patience. No human could have that sort of patience in the world we live in today. Think of the YEARS he spent waiting for just the right moment to reveal himself. He trained Darth Maul from birth, twenty years at least. And another ten years after that, he waited. It hardly matters whether or not he knew of Anakin's existence before Qui-Gon discovered him, because either way he had to wait for him to grow up and learn the ways of the Force. He had to wait for just the right times to manipulate things to his liking.
4. Mental discipline. He hid his Force sensitivity from the Jedi, even from Master Yoda. How tempting it must have been to just once say, "You think you're so hot, try THIS" and zap a little Force lightning across the room just shut up the Jedi Council.
3. Guile. Guile is defined by Merriam-Webster as "deceitful cunning." I would add to that being calm and cool at all times while being deceitfully cunning. No one could ever say he lost his cool or gave himself away at any time while he was manipulating the fate of the galaxy...
2. Taste. His taste in clothing and office décor was, well... a little overdone. But it was PERFECT for a dictator-in-waiting.... His wardrobe and his surroundings DEMANDED respect in a subtle, elusive way. He comported himself with dignity and automatically expected to be treated with dignity. He acted the part of statesman and gentleman.
1. EVILNESS! While I expressed some disappointment over the lack of true evil in Anakin Skywalker, there was no lack of this characteristic in Palpatine. He was "bad to the bone" and the glimpses we catch of that dark side are tantalizing, especially if one has seen the OT first and KNOW he's bad and just hiding it. How many times have you wanted to shout "He's lying!" or "He's manipulating you!" or something similar at your TV screen? The close up of him being somber and serious at Qui-Gon's memorial was brilliant and gave me the chills. Which was destroyed, the master or the apprentice? Well, the Jedi didn't know, but WE did.
I remember after seeing the Emperor's face for the first time in ROTJ, one friend saying "What WAS he?" He was so hideous and disgusting. To see him as a fine looking, middle aged man in TPM made him all the more intriguing. How and when would the truth come out? What would be that final step that makes him "Emperor?"
Young Padawan Obi-Wan Kenobi says at the beginning of the movie, "I have a bad feeling about this!" and "It's something elsewhere, elusive." Perhaps Qui-Gon should have paid more attention instead of correcting him, telling him to concentrate on the here and now. But the elusive evilness he sensed was out there.
Palpatine is one of the reasons I'm glad I'm old enough to have seen the OT first. Watching him develop from seemingly honest and dedicated Senator in to Emperor was a treat in itself!
We now return you to the light side of the Force.....
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JediMelindaWolf Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
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date Posted: Feb 08, 2008 9:56 PM
hmmmm, g-w . . . you aren't being seduced by the dark side, are you?  I am going to surmise that it is just your inquisitive mind at work here, your examination of that into which your would not tread . . .
Yes, DV was bad . . . by Palpatine was e-v-i-l. His last words to Luke  still make me shudder. So calm. So cool. So sure of himself.
Boy, did he have the tables turned on him.
Great blog, g-w!
MTFBWY 
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GalacticBabe I Have a Bad Feeling About This!
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date Posted: Feb 09, 2008 1:04 AM
He hid his Force sensitivity from the Jedi, even from Master Yoda. He did! I never thought about it that way! Now THAT'S powerful!
"You think you're so hot, try THIS" hee hee hee
Perhaps Qui-Gon should have paid more attention instead of correcting him, telling him to concentrate on the here and now. But the elusive evilness he sensed was out there. Qui-Gon taught Obi-Wan better than he thought, didn't he? It seems like after Qui-Gon met up with Anakin, that was all she wrote as far as Obi-Wan was concerned. Qui-Gon had other "things" to occupy his mind.
Well, that made more sense in my mind.....
Another fantastic entry, Granny!
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FAN4YRS A Rebel's Ramblings
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date Posted: Feb 09, 2008 2:44 AM
Palpatine was patient, which is a quality you don't normally find in evil people (fact or fiction). Hitler, for example, was full-speed ahead, to the dismay of his generals, etc. The only other patience evil person I can think of is also fictional: Count Dracula, or vampires in general, who need victims to live, but never seem to be in a rush about it (at least not in the old black and whites).
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jediprincess77 I Don't Know Where You Get Your Delusions...
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date Posted: Feb 09, 2008 7:57 AM
I have always admired his patience. It's what the Jedi preach, but no one truly practiced it like Palpatine. (Perhaps Yoda and Obi-Wan in between PT & OT followed his example...?)
That opera scene between Anakin and Palps gives me chills, chills, chills every time...because you get a clear picture of all of the qualities you mention here.
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ewanandhaydenfan5 I Have You Now!
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date Posted: Feb 09, 2008 11:15 AM
My, my, you are a blogging fool, Granny!
Patience
That's the truth. He knew he had to bide his time because he was soooo confident the Sith would reign in the end, and like Fan4Yrs said, evil characters are not normally patient. That makes him even more evil and spooky.
That opera scene between Anakin and Palps gives me chills, chills, chills every time...because you get a clear picture of all of the qualities you mention here.
Absolutely...you knew what Palps was trying to do, and I felt like screaming, "Don't listen to him Ani!"
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Granny-Wan I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
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date Posted: Feb 09, 2008 11:23 AM
hmmmm, g-w . . . you aren't being seduced by the dark side, are you?
Um, maybe it's been 'Villain Appreciation Week" for me...
I am going to surmise that it is just your inquisitive mind at work here, your examination of that into which your would not tread . . .
Oh, I would hope I wouldn't go there.... not that we all haven't at one time or another appreciated the classic definition of stress: "The irresistible urge to beat the living crap out of someone who desperately needs it"
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Granny-Wan I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
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date Posted: Feb 09, 2008 11:27 AM
It seems like after Qui-Gon met up with Anakin, that was all she wrote as far as Obi-Wan was concerned
Qui-Gon really took the the hear and now thing to a whole new level... Poor OW, when QG is dying, after they've spent 12 years together like a father and son.... all QG can talk about is Anakin...
I liked Qui-Gon's determination when he thought he was right about something, but he sure had a short attention span...
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Granny-Wan I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
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date Posted: Feb 09, 2008 11:30 AM
Hitler, for example, was full-speed ahead, to the dismay of his generals, etc.
Which led, ultimately, to his downfall...
It's what the Jedi preach, but no one truly practiced it like Palpatine.
The Jedi supposedly wouldn't have had anything to hide... !!!!
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Granny-Wan I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
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date Posted: Feb 09, 2008 11:33 AM
My, my, you are a blogging fool, Granny!
My brain has exploded...
That makes him even more evil and spooky.
Spooky is a good description... that character you know is so evil that you get the willies...
"Don't listen to him Ani!"
LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!!!
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Green Am I Mudhole? Slimy?! My blog this is!
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date Posted: Feb 09, 2008 12:07 PM
Think of the YEARS he spent waiting for just the right moment to reveal himself.
Yeah, you're right. And if he made one false move, everything could blow up in his face.
How many times have you wanted to shout "He's lying!" or "He's manipulating you!" or something similar at your TV screen?
Every single time I watch the scene where Anakin cuts off Mace's hand. I always end up thinking that Anakin just might not do it this time, but he always does. Stupdi Jedi.
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Green Am I Mudhole? Slimy?! My blog this is!
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date Posted: Feb 09, 2008 12:07 PM
While I expressed some disappointment over the lack of true evil in Anakin Skywalker, there was no lack of this characteristic in Palpatine.
Really? You thought Anakin lacked evil? That scene with the younglings was enough to convince me that he was pretty darn evil.
Great entry!
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Jade Sabre777 A luminous being, I am...
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date Posted: Feb 09, 2008 12:15 PM
Sooooo true, Granny!! Have you read Cloak of Deception? You may not be into the EU, but I guarantee that this will add to your opinion of ol' Palpy!!
The close up of him being somber and serious at Qui-Gon's memorial was brilliant and gave me the chills. Which was destroyed, the master or the apprentice? Well, the Jedi didn't know, but WE did.
LOVE that part!! At the time, I wasn't positive they were the same, but I was so sure, and I was always pausing the movies and saying, "Look, the Emperor does that same look! They have to be the same!" When I read that they were in the ROTS novel, I was like, "Yes!!"
Great blog!
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Granny-Wan I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
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date Posted: Feb 09, 2008 12:43 PM
And if he made one false move, everything could blow up in his face.
I'm sure he had backup plans, but if he'd made one move to reveal his true identity it would have been all over!
I always end up thinking that Anakin just might not do it this time, but he always does. Stupdi Jedi.
 When watching ANH, when Kenobi raises his lightsaber to let Vader cut him down, I always say, "DON'T DO IT, OBI-WAN!" But he never listens....
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Granny-Wan I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
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date Posted: Feb 09, 2008 12:46 PM
Have you read Cloak of Deception? You may not be into the EU,
Oh yes, I read that one.... I'm not totally anti-EU, I just think some of it's P.U. Like the way they treat Luke and the Jedi.... don't get me started.... LOL
LOVE that part!! At the time, I wasn't positive they were the same, but I was so sure, and I was always pausing the movies and saying, "Look, the Emperor does that same look! They have to be the same!"
Cool, I'm glad you could enjoy that shot as much as I did as a "prequel moment"
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Granny-Wan I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
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date Posted: Feb 09, 2008 12:49 PM
Really? You thought Anakin lacked evil? That scene with the younglings was enough to convince me that he was pretty darn evil.
But that was Darth Vader... before the turn I thought he ought to have been either way more evil or way more heroic....
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zach starwalker
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date Posted: Feb 09, 2008 1:00 PM
I remember after seeing the Emperor's face for the first time in ROTJ, one friend saying "What WAS he?"
Wasnt he an old woman wearing a monkey mask in the original. Or was that in ESB.
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Green Am I Mudhole? Slimy?! My blog this is!
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date Posted: Feb 09, 2008 1:58 PM
But that was Darth Vader... before the turn I thought he ought to have been either way more evil or way more heroic....
Ah, I see what you mean. But... if he was too heroic, it wouldn't of seemed remotely reasonable for him to turn to the Dark Side. But he was too evil, he wouldn't of seemed like a good guy turned bad. Interesting thought...
That opera scene between Anakin and Palps gives me chills, chills, chills every time...because you get a clear picture of all of the qualities you mention here.
That was one of my favorite scenes from the whole movie. In fact, Palpatine might be the best character from the whole movie! He's close, at least.
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MomOf2YoungPadawan Mamadala's Lair
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date Posted: Feb 09, 2008 4:20 PM
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!!
You're so spot-on with this analysis of Palpy - very impressive! Patience is indeed the most awe-inspiring quality he had! Like was said, most evil-doers are aggressive, headstrong, impatient and passionate about their cause to the point that they lose focus. Palpy, on the other hand, was truly the opposite altogether.
Cloak of Decepion, eh? Hmmm....another book to add to my summer reading list! (I say "summer" b/c I have 5 books right now on deck to read!)
We now return you to the light side of the Force..... But, you're on such a roll...!
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Granny-Wan I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
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date Posted: Feb 09, 2008 8:04 PM
Cloak of Deception, eh? Hmmm....another book to add to my summer reading list!
Be sure you read Labyrinth of Evil and Darth Maul Shadowhunter....the best of the prequel-era novels....
But, you're on such a roll...!
It's the POWER! heh heh heh..... oh wow, that's like an aphrodisiac... or in my case a hallucinogen....
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Darth_Hiram A Journey into The Force
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date Posted: Feb 10, 2008 12:07 AM
Good blog, G-W. In Palpatine's case, patience is certainly a virtue ... for him anyway. To exercise the time it took to put his plans fully in motion is remarkable ... even though his ends were intended for evil. To spend that amount of time and energy in today's world to reach an outcome would cost a fortune ... hmmm, I wonder if any political leaders are reading this blog?
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Tiawyn TiaWyn's Star Wars Blog
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date Posted: Feb 10, 2008 7:18 AM
Very nice blog entry. You made some good points there. I think it is important to remember that a really good action-adventure story requires a really good villain and Palpatine is one of the greatest bad guys ever.
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yoda1234538
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date Posted: Feb 10, 2008 12:37 PM
dude cool and like awsome
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comanderbly That's Impossible. Even for a Computer.
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date Posted: Feb 11, 2008 7:31 AM
5. Patience.
I love this aspect of the Sith. With just 2 of them they have to move carefully and the risk of exposure creates great tension in the story.
Another awesome blog!
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Fish1941
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date Posted: Feb 11, 2008 1:16 PM
EVILNESS! While I expressed some disappointment over the lack of true evil in Anakin Skywalker, there was no lack of this characteristic in Palpatine.
Anakin was never meant to be truly evil. I think his encounter with Luke on Bespin proved that.
Perhaps Qui-Gon should have paid more attention instead of correcting him, telling him to concentrate on the here and now. But the elusive evilness he sensed was out there.
I believe that Obi-Wan was referring to Anakin. And two, Qui-Gon was the only one who had sensed there was something odd about the whole Naboo situation.
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Fish1941
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date Posted: Feb 11, 2008 1:17 PM
But that was Darth Vader... before the turn I thought he ought to have been either way more evil or way more heroic....
But that would have made Anakin a one-dimensional character.
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Fish1941
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date Posted: Feb 11, 2008 1:18 PM
In Palpatine's case, patience is certainly a virtue ... for him anyway. To exercise the time it took to put his plans fully in motion is remarkable ... even though his ends were intended for evil.
Wouldn't it be odd if Palpatine never considered his actions as evil? After all, one might say the same for the Jedi's more questionable acts.
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Granny-Wan I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
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date Posted: Feb 11, 2008 1:51 PM
But that would have made Anakin a one-dimensional character.
I think he was one-dimensional as it was.... thinking only of himself... perhaps more exposition was needed....
Wouldn't it be odd if Palpatine never considered his actions as evil?
Quite possibly he didn't.... he thought he was saving the galaxy from itself...
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Granny-Wan I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
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date Posted: Feb 11, 2008 1:59 PM
I believe that Obi-Wan was referring to Anakin
I think he sensed the Sith were behind the whole deal.... and were lurking in the shadows... he says this long before the went to Tatooine and encountered Anakin....
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Fish1941
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date Posted: Feb 11, 2008 3:20 PM
I think he sensed the Sith were behind the whole deal.... and were lurking in the shadows... he says this long before the went to Tatooine and encountered Anakin....
After thinking about this, I finally realized that none of us know the real truth and perhaps we were simply projecting our own views about Obi-Wan.
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padmeskywalker77 Padme's Legacy
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date Posted: Feb 11, 2008 9:02 PM
Another wonderful entry!! You hit on everything that we love to hate...or is it hate to love...about good ol Palps. He truly was a master of everything evil in so many ways.
His most chilling "features" were his patience and his mental discipline. Without being able to master these he would not have been able to execute his plans the way he did.
That opera scene between Anakin and Palps gives me chills, chills, chills every time...because you get a clear picture of all of the qualities you mention here.
It does for me as well. He knew that the time was right...and that it would not be long before everything fell into place.
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darthtravis10
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date Posted: Feb 27, 2008 1:36 PM
this is a pretty good list of why palps is a "good" character in the films. also from the sound of it you saw the OT in theaters when it originally came out... right? that must have been pretty sweet. when i was 8 i got the OT as a birthday gift so i was able to see the 3 before TPM came out so i do consider myself lucky because i feel like the sw fans who werent able to see the OT first really don't comprehend the tragedy of anakins fall. those are just my thoughts and opinions... sorry to all the people who saw the PT first.
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