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 | MasterMonkey13date posted: Aug 21, 2006 3:32 PM | updated: Aug 21, 2006 3:32 PM |
 | ORDER 66 : The Way it really happened |
 There has been a lot of discussion going around about Order 66, the clones, and our good friend Yoda. Most of y'all have probably read K-fan's Order 66 blog but if you haven't, read this.
Well, his theory is very well thought out and it is plausible, but I don't see it to be likely. (no offense K-fan) Here are my thoughts on the creation on the Clone army, the disappearance of Kamino, and Order 66.
Of course none of this is guaranteed. The order to create the clone army was given by Dooku through the direction of Sidious. Dooku placed the order as soon as he became the apprentice of Darth Sidious, which would be very soon after Maul died. Dooku was ordered to kill Master Sifo-Dias and create the army under the name of Sifo-Dias. While he was there he set Order 66 into action by either programming it into the clones himself, or telling the Kaminoians to teach it to them.
Then, back to the Jedi Temple he went, he was still respected by the Jedi at that point and he possibly hadn't even left the Jedi Order yet. He erased the files about Kamino so that nobody would find the clones before the time was right. Then he left, never to be seen again. He instructed his master on how to activate Order 66 and when the time was right Sidious activated it.
Yoda could possibly foresee some of this happening but didn't know enough facts to act on it. And because he knew some of it, he knew immediately what had happened when it happened. Or a better conclusion, Yoda was strong in the Force.
Anyway, in my mind, I completely rule out the fact that Yoda created Order 66. I believe that the Dooku-Sidious duo are to blame for everything about Order 66. Yoda is innocent. Dooku is guilty.
That is my conclusion about that matter. Comments on what you believe will be greatly appreciated.
No profanity.
May the Force be with us all! God bless!
*cough dookucreatedorder66cough* 
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Rogueish
W.I.E.R.D.
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date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 3:55 PM
Not as controversial as Kenobi-Fan's theory, but better than mine. JANGO FETT!!
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Rogueish
W.I.E.R.D.
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date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 3:59 PM
Ok, sorry about double posting there. I suggest you delete the first 2 posts, cos I hadn't even finished what I was going to say, so I'll start again.
Not as controversial as Kenobi-Fan's theory, but better than mine: JANGO FETT!!
Why? Dunno, just thought of it - actually, I think the Fettster had a wry smile on his face when he said to Kenobi: "Always a pleasure to meet a Jedi"
Why the smile? Because he knew what was indoctrined into the Clones, because HE PUT IT THERE!!
Don't you see?
Makes total, perfect sense.
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adambombski
The New Imperial Times (On Break)
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date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 4:18 PM
Yeah, I also thought about that. It makes more sense than Yoda, although that Yoda idea is interesting. Good job.
MTFBWY.
By the way, read my new blog. I want to see what you think.
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Jediknigt200555
Mereel's Log
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date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 4:40 PM
I would like to point this out here because K-fans Comments are closed, the clones do not serve the Jedi, yes they follow the orders of the Jedi but they do not serve the Jedi. First and foremost they serve THE REBUBLIC. The Supreme Chancellor is the head of the Republic so they answer to him. In the same way as our soldiers follow the orders of the President over their Generals.
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usetheforce19
MasterMonkey13
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date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 4:47 PM
Wow, two double posts almost in a row, anyway, I hope y'all don't mind me deleting the extras. And thanks for the comments, I decided that I'd throw my two cents in. (or however the phrase goes)
May the Force be with us all! God bless!
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darthapple34
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date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 5:11 PM
Great blog MasterMonkey13. I agree with Jediknigt200555 and you Mastermonkey on the order 66 deal. It seems unlikely it would be Jango because he really wouldn't too much to gain from order 66, but still a possibility. It also wouldn't have had to be the Jedi or Yoda because, like Jediknigt200555 said, the clones did not serve the Jedi, they served the Republic. Great blog with good points!
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Kenobi-fan
The Jundland Wastes Journal
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date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 5:21 PM
First and foremost they serve THE REBUBLIC. The Supreme Chancellor is the head of the Republic so they answer to him.
Where is this quoted? Again, I think you are inserting your own opinion in place of actual statements made elsewhere. Please refer to the quote in my blog referencing 'Hard Contact' - it's a comment from a clone regarding their attitude towards the Jedi...it's unqualified. Yes, it's EU, but it's a set statement - no real room for conjecture. You won't find this kind of certainty anywhere in the movies.
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Kenobi-fan
The Jundland Wastes Journal
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date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 5:23 PM
(con't)
Also, it still makes no sense that such an 'insidious' order would go unnoticed by the Jedi for 3-years - it's illogical and makes Yoda seem like a simpleton. Generals (especially Jedi Generals) are many things, but stupid they are not. Again, Yoda is not stupid - he would have investigated the clones mandate as surely as if he was giving one to another Jedi. I'm not saying I'm right, only that it makes sense of light of what we know and what we don't.
Thanks for the mention, usetheforce19. 
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usetheforce19
MasterMonkey13
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date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 5:28 PM
I'm not saying I'm right, only that it makes sense of light of what we know and what we don't.
I see, I was just throwing in my opinion.
May the Force be with us all! God bless!
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jedilily1026
Years Matter Not (Gone Crazy...Be Back Soon)
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date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 5:38 PM
I've haven't seen so many blogs re "Order 66" since K-Fan did his.
I don't believe Yoda created Order 66 but I cannot rule out Yoda not having knowledge of it. When he went to Kamino to look at the Clones don't you think that the "manufacturers" might have mentioned Order 66 to him being that Yoda was a Jedi and they understood the Jedi ordered the Clone Army???? Yoda most probably would have asked more questions than Obi-Wan did, don't you think??? 
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Ian 6412
The Journals of RC-6412
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date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 6:07 PM
what is wrong with profanity, Kenobi Fan has a cool take on what happened, it makes sense and is actually kind of fun to think of it like that.
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Shadow_JediX
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date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 6:10 PM
PROFANITY!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm just being sarcastic, but seriously... good blog
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usetheforce19
MasterMonkey13
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date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 6:17 PM
what is wrong with profanity,
Well, what if I don't want bad language in my blogs? You have a problem with that?
May the Force be with us all! God bless!
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darth maul517
Darth Jedi Maul Secura
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date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 9:11 PM
i think K-fan makes the most sense.3 years and not one jedi was told this or even did any study on the clones and what they learned.
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obi-dil kenobi
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date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 9:53 PM
nice theory ! i agree with monkey
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DARTH VENGEFUL
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date Posted: Aug 22, 2006 6:28 AM
I have read a number of theories regarding order 66 and although all are very interesting I think this one is most likely. As I think it wad said the clones form the Grand Army of the Republic. This means that they serve the Republic and not the Jedi themselves. However as we all know the Jedi also serve the Republic as the guardians of peace and justice and therefore due to rank they became the generals of the Grand Army of the Republic.
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DARTH VENGEFUL
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date Posted: Aug 22, 2006 6:29 AM
Cont: It is therefore the case that as Supreme Chancellor/President leader of the government Palpatine was the Supreme Commander of the Army of the Republic. This would mean that he can overrule any order(s) given. In this case it is very likely that as Supreme Commander Palpatine issued a number of SECRET ORDERS to the clones that the Jedi were unaware of such as order 66.
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DARTH VENGEFUL
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date Posted: Aug 22, 2006 6:31 AM
Cont: So that he as the leader could garuntee that HIS army would not be able to be used against him by anyone including the Jedi who are clearly an enemy to Palpatine as hhe is a SITH LORD. Therefore there is no way this was done by the Jedi.
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darthapple34
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date Posted: Aug 22, 2006 7:32 AM
Please refer to the quote in my blog referencing 'Hard Contact' - it's a comment from a clone regarding their attitude towards the Jedi...it's unqualified. Yes, it's EU, but it's a set statement - no real room for conjecture. You won't find this kind of certainty anywhere in the movies.
If the EU is unqualified we can't quote it for certainty. Also the clones took order 66 from the Chancellor anyway. The order was issued before the Empire was created and Republic rules still would have been in place.
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darthapple34
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date Posted: Aug 22, 2006 7:36 AM
Also, it still makes no sense that such an 'insidious' order would go unnoticed by the Jedi for 3-years - it's illogical and makes Yoda seem like a simpleton.The Jedi could sense the demise of the Jedi Order to some extent.
"I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi. The Dark Side of the Force surrounds the Chancellor." Master Windu.
This could be a case where the Jedi could sense a disturbance but could not pinpoint the cause. For example, when Alderaan was destroyed, Obi Wan could sense a disturbance but not exactly what happened.
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darthapple34
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date Posted: Aug 22, 2006 7:43 AM
sorry about the bold on last post.
The Jedi could sometimes sense disturbances but not causes. Perhaps the Jedi could sense the Dark Side lingering in the war and the Republic, but did not know exactly where it was coming from. These points are left unclear in the movies, but it seems unlikely George Lucas would have left points as subtle as Yoda creating order 66 as there was no indication Yoda created the order and every indication Palpatine did.
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son of mace windu0
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date Posted: Aug 22, 2006 8:42 AM
i agree with master monkey about the dooku theroy it makes sense but 1 question did he leave the order to the sith then make most messed up order ever???? i still dont no that but y even talk about yoda we all no he didnt do anything so y say he did it!!!???!!??!! sure he said only a jedi could erase those files but dooku is only part jedi and part sith he still is a jedi every sith is they just lost sight of that . but i think dooku did it. MASTER MONKEY good point man expect more comments from me may the force be with u.
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