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Return of the Jawa
by: JawaJoey
date posted: Apr 03, 2006 7:05 PM
Counsel with Yoda
In Reveng of the Sith, Anakin begins having disturbing dreams about Padme, like the ones he had about his mother before she died.

First, let's compare the two situations.
In Episode II: Anakin is with Padme, falling in love and enjoying life, etc, when he has bad dreams about his mother in pain. They are so great, and he cares for his mother so much, that he eventually finds it impossible to not seek her out to save her. He travels to Tatooine and tracks her down, and along the way travels down the saddest and most angry path he ever has, and come closer to the dark side than he ever had before up to that point.

In Episode III: He's been a good Jedi. He's not perfect, he killed an unarmed prisoner, but only on the order of ruler of the Galaxy and Lord of the Sith, and not wihout hesitation or guilt. But he's been generally good. Then he has these dreams. We know where it takes him, and this premonition is the most key peice in his submission to Sidious as Master, and it leads him to fall as far as he can. What's different about this dream is that he remembers his other dream about his mother, and sees it's significance and takes it even more seriously, seeking Yoda himself for counsel on the matter.

It is interesting, how the two darkest events in Anakin's life are both forseen in his dreams. They are so parrallel. Two women, two dreams of them suffering, and temptation and anger when he reaches the end each path.
Both dreams are similar, and both eventually corrupt Anakin to a point where the Dark Side is the only tool for doing what he thinks he must.

Now what does Yoda have to say about this?

"Careful you must be when sensing the future, Anakin. The fear of loss is the path to the Dark Side."

Right off the bat, Yoda gets staight to the crux of the issue. Good job, Yoda. These examples of Anakin's dreams, and the feelings he feels as a result, are the ideal proof of this statement. The fear of loss is exactly what brings Anakin to abandon the Jedi teachings, through these events.


Anakin responds "I won't let these visions come true, master Yoda"

Already he is unwilling to accept loss.

"Death is a natural part of life. Rejoice for those around you who have transformed into the force. Mourn them do not. Miss them do not."

Yoda is trying to teach Anakin why he should not be so occupied with the death of those he cares for. In terms of the Force, death means very little. It is important for a Jedi to not become obsessed with emotions about death, or anything, because...

"Attachment leads to jealousy. The shadow of greed, that is."

Greed and jealously are not really Anakin's problem in this case, but this is a great example of one of the many principles for restricting emotions that the Jedi must maintain.Yo be a Jedi is to walk a fine line, always wary of temptation and passion. This leads to a very potent point about the ways and teachings of the Jedi, and how they are forced to live. Jedi must detach themselves from many things, including emotions. Because a Jedi is strong in the Force, the danger of the Dark Side tapping into their negative emotions is great, and must constantly be gaurded against.

The best way to do this, or so the Jedi of the Old Jedi Order believe, is to isolate their life from certain things that inspire temptations and negative emotions. That is why the lives of Jedi are largely void of material possessions, why Jedi are not allowed to love, and exactly why it is an important Jedi teaching to consider death favorably and peacefully, for if Jedi took deaths too seriously, the emotional disturbances and repurcussions would be disastrous. Revenge alone is too powerful an emotion and too great a tool of the Dark Side to leave unchecked in jedi teachings, and revenge may be just one of many strong emotion spurred by death.

"Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose."

This is the simple how. How to save yourself from emotional turmoil over loss. A Jedi must detach themself from a lot of things, inorder to maintain a peaceful disposition.

And more importantly, this is exactly what Anakin cannot do. He is unable to simply let go of those he cares for for his duties as a Jedi. He doesn't value the way of the Jedi enough to overcome the strong feelings he has for his mother and for Padme.



The fact about Anakin that tipped the scale for him to fall, rather than stay the path of Light was that in the end, he cared more about his loved ones than he did the ways of the Jedi. He never fully accepted some of the Jedi teachings, such as these crucial ones Yoda wisely dictates. He hasn't truly learned those lessons, and submitted to the temptations that those teachings were meant to gaurd against. When the time to make the choice came, he chose the path of Dark for the sake of the women he loved.

There are several ways to consider that though. He cared for Padme more than the Jedi, but was it because he didn't care much for the Jedi? or because he cares so much for Padme? Was this because of his late start in training and deep emotionaly connection with his mother? Or was it a failing of his teachers? Or perhaps it was simply his nature. Those are important to think about and discuss, as the deepest motivations for Anakin's stance on these issues are the true keys to why he fell.

MissPadme
Miss Padme's Naboo Love Nest
date Posted: Apr 03, 2006 8:04 PM
Anakin is loyal to people, not to ideas and not to institutions. Palpatine made sure Anakin would have no second thoughts betraying the Jedi and he wisely set up the situation so that Anakin (in his mind) is choosing between Padmé and the Jedi Order, not between Jedi and Sith.

You have a lot of good points, though I think Yoda's advice fell flat for a number of reasons, some of which aren't his fault. In any case, Yoda does miss others and seemed awfully upset during the Order 66 scenes, did he not ;)?
  Jaden_Korr-8185
date Posted: Apr 04, 2006 4:43 AM
First of all let me be the first to say great Blog. You make some truly genuine points highly revelant to the films, I agree with MissPadme's statement about Anakin being loyal to people and I think Jedi or otherwise your going to miss those who are close to you when they die. However as to her comment about Yoda I say he has a very strong connection to every Jedi in the order (he probably trained all of them at some point) and it was sensing all of their deaths simultanously that upset him and it was there he realized their was foul play afoot.
  Jaden_Korr-8185
date Posted: Apr 04, 2006 4:56 AM
As for Anakin he definately has some attachment issues, as for what is to blame for this e.i "His late start in his training" or "the failing of his teachers" is up to debate. My take is if you spend ten years traveling across the galaxy training, following strict codes of moral ethics, at some point that stuff has to stick and your old way of thinking becomes obsolete. So frankly I believe its due to Anakin's lack of duty to the code (the Jedi code that is) he vowed to learn from and follow.
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Apr 04, 2006 5:58 AM
Great blog, JawaJoey!! I agree with Jaden_Korr-8185 that you make some truly great and genuine points very relevant to the saga.

To me, it was Anakin's inability to let go of things and distance himself emotionally from the things and people that mattered most in his life that contributed to his fall. He, as you mentioned, was older when he began his training. He grew up in slavery, not knowing any other way of life...but had his imagination to help him get through these times. (Cont)

padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Apr 04, 2006 5:59 AM
He also had his mother...and, up until the arrival of Qui-Gon and Padme on Tatooine, really had nobody else he trusted or cared so deeply about in his life. He had this early attachment and bond with his mother, a bond which no other Jedi had ever been able to experience because of their way of "recruiting" younglings at an age where the formation of this bond is nearly impossible. (Cont)

padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Apr 04, 2006 6:00 AM
As Anakin says at his mother's funeral in ATOC..."I wasn't strong enough to save you...I miss you so much..." He also promises that he won't fail again...a promise he later makes to Padme in ROTS when she promises him that she won't die in childbirth. Here again, he is unable to let go of those important in his life. (Cont)

padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Apr 04, 2006 6:01 AM
Although Yoda's advice to Anakin on training yourself to let go of everythin you fear to lose and to rejoice for those around you that have transformed into the force are essential to the Jedi code and way of life, Anakin insists that he won't let these visions come true. It is here that he reveals his intention to not follow the Jedi code of abandoning all attachment and to find a way to save the one he cares most about from his visions of pain, suffering...death.
  jediholteh
date Posted: Apr 04, 2006 7:05 AM
Anakin was obsessed with Padme. Plain and simple. She was his addiction; he couldn't simply let go. He told her so himslelf, with the "You are in my very soul" thing. Being trained to let go was unfortunately out of the question for this guy. So, Anakin pretty much lets Yoda know that his advice was bull and he tries to keep his promise to his mother and to his wife. He wanted to secret to keep his loved ones around for as long as possible; and after his loss of his mother, I don't think he could've seriously live without Padme.

Great blog, btw. :D
  sherpajones
date Posted: Apr 04, 2006 1:00 PM
I agree with jediholtech. Anakin said after windu's death, "help me save Padme, I can't live without her". Anakin has by his own choice placed all of his security in life on Padme, and losing her would be the death of him as well. After a normal period of grief, people should be able to continue on living life to the full even if their spouse dies.
  DarthSafady
You ain't Sith!
date Posted: Apr 06, 2006 4:48 PM
The Jedi Code forbidding attachements includes relationships with the opposite sex for a reason. Even in a galaxy far, far away, it was understood that such relationships can really screw up your head, causing you to act on emotion rather than wisdom. It's a thin line between love & hate (No pun intended).
  echo4bravo2001
date Posted: Apr 07, 2006 5:07 PM
I wouldn't say anakin cares more about padme than the jedi. At the end of AOTC anakin and obi-wan encounter dooku and anakin states, " You're gonna pay for all the Jedi you killed today." Anakin just has some kind of mean streak in him. He can't bear to lose anyone close to him, even the jedi. He also seems to have some sort of vendetta, even palpatine notes in episode 3, " He took your arm, You wanted revenge."
  echo4bravo2001
date Posted: Apr 07, 2006 5:08 PM
Anakin assumes he is more attuned to the Force than yoda and totally disregards everything he says to him in this scene. Anakin is also arrogant in his abilities. I think the whole situation would have been avoided if the Jedi would have trained him like any other Jedi, and not clue him into what they knew about him and the prophecy or him in any way being the chosen one. Then Anakin wouldn't have expected so much of himself and feel like he was being "held back" How would you feel if you were told you would be the one to bring balance to the force and ultimately destroy the Sith? All this did was make Anakin conceited.
  echo4bravo2001
date Posted: Apr 07, 2006 5:08 PM
Anakin assumes he is more attuned to the Force than yoda and totally disregards everything he says to him in this scene. Anakin is also arrogant in his abilities. I think the whole situation would have been avoided if the Jedi would have trained him like any other Jedi, and not clue him into what they knew about him and the prophecy or him in any way being the chosen one. Then Anakin wouldn't have expected so much of himself and feel like he was being "held back" How would you feel if you were told you would be the one to bring balance to the force and ultimately destroy the Sith? All this did was make Anakin conceited.
  SlaveoftheForce
Enter the 36th Chamber
date Posted: Feb 08, 2007 7:03 AM
Technically the Jedi Code didn't require celibacy, it merely disallowed emotional attachment and marriage. There was reason for it, but that wasn't the Jedi way forever... and it hasn't been a problem for Luke. I think one of the things the PT shows us is the limitation and stagnation of the Jedi Order in that era. They failed to adapt to changing circumstances with their greatest student, and they couldn't relate to the common man anymore... whom they were sworn to protect.
  SlaveoftheForce
Enter the 36th Chamber
date Posted: Feb 08, 2007 7:03 AM
It's hard to protect people you don't even bother seeing and relating to on a daily basis. That was the problem with the Jedi and the Republic in that era. Too much aristocracy and priestly classes. At any rate, I think Anakin's fall is largely his own fault... he didn't know how to have balanced relationships. And he was all hubris. Arrogance was a large cause of his fall, not just his obsession with Padme and wanting to stop death.
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