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 | How could Obi-wan not remember? |
 After watching ANH yesterday a new thought ran through my mind. I don't see how I never really thought about it before! How could Obi-wan not remember R2 and 3PO? I would understand him not remembering 3PO much, but what about R2? R2-d2 saved their lives several times. In TPM while Obi-wan was still a padawan he saved the starship from catching fire and blowing or something and in ROTS he saved both Anakin and Obi-wan from their star fighters being destroyed. Then also in ROTS C-3PO was with Obi-wan on Mustafar. Wouldn't that have been one of the most important days of his life.....so I think he would have remembered every detail, including the droids?
Comments appreciated,
Jedi Abba
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isayisayajedi? I say, I say, a Jedi Knight?
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date Posted: Dec 03, 2005 10:16 AM
If you watch Alec Guniess when Luke is introducing R2-D2; then there is a slight look of recognition in his face; probably wishful thinking but it could be there. Also with C3-PO there is a brief moment when they pull him out of the sand that Obi-Wan has a slight look of recognition. Again, probably wishful thinking.
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Jediknight D
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date Posted: Dec 03, 2005 10:45 AM
I think he pretended he didint, after all, if he said he did, luke would raise tons of " you knew my father Q's" and that might have lead to the darth Vader thing.
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Wookie_toothbrush
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date Posted: Dec 03, 2005 11:13 AM
I'm 100% sure he did remember the droids. I don't care how old you are, you can't forget artoo. He was just trying to protect the existing secrets, if Luke found out that Obi knew R2, that would raise plenty of questions. In ROTS 3PO had his memory wiped, so only R2 would remember Obi-Wan. I think he was just trying to keep secrets, but then again, if he was trying to be protective, then why did he feel that Luke needed to start learning the was of the force? Wouldn't teaching Luke how to chop peoples' arms off attract all the attention he was trying to prevent in the first place?
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darthlando22 The Starship Enterprise
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date Posted: Dec 03, 2005 11:39 AM
Then also in ROTS C-3P0 was with Obi-wan on Mustafar.Wouldn't that have been one of the most important days of his life...
Kenobi was to busy thinking about Ani he didn't bother to notice 3PO.
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grover_m873 Diary of a dark Jedi
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date Posted: Dec 03, 2005 11:58 AM
Obi-Wan remembered the droids. But it was a matter of keeping certain secrets hidden til the time was right to reveal them. Also you had to look at it from "a certain point of view." Kenobi, in that scene calls Luke by name even though Luke never introduced himself before. Kenobi also says that he doesn't remember owning any droids, which is true. And only after viewing the message from Princess Leia does he suggest that Luke learn the ways of the force. I think it was all a matter of timing for things to unfold themselves.
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jedi_obilion
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date Posted: Dec 03, 2005 12:10 PM
I really think Kenobi remembered the droids. Remember at the end of ROTS, there was the discussion about waiting until the time was right to make their move against the Emperor and Vader. This inherintly (spelling?) includes the fact of hiding facts from Luke and/or Leia, whichever they thought would take the deed of training as a Jedi (remember at the end of ROTS they weren't sure which route either one would go though they had a good idea). R2 and 3PO were part of the hiding from the twins about the past. They could never know before it was time that Yoda, Obi-Wan and Bail Organa knew anything of the past. Bail had to play it off as he'd always had the droids and not gotten them from Yoda or Obi-Wan.
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jedi_obilion
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date Posted: Dec 03, 2005 12:10 PM
Continued
I'm sure Leia didn't even know about "General Kenobi" until Bail sent her on this errand to retrieve him and Luke, which Leia obviously didn't know about Luke. This was all part of the plan between Bail and Kenobi and Yoda, when Kenobi was retrieved by Bail to bring Luke with him and the plan would start to go in action. I think had Alderaan not gotten blown apart, Luke and Leia would have know long before ROTJ that they were twins. At this point, Leia isn't even the leader of the separatists, Bail is...well, until his planet was blown to kingdom come, which leaves it to Mon Mothma and Leia and a few others
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jedi_obilion
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date Posted: Dec 03, 2005 12:12 PM
BTW fantastic blog jedi_abba!!!
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Darth_Revor
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date Posted: Dec 03, 2005 12:31 PM
1) He said he didn't remember OWNING any droids, and he didn't
2) C-3PO is not the only gold-plated Protocol Droid in the Galaxy
3) R2-D2 is likely not the ONLY blue and white astrodroid in the Galaxy
This said, I'm sure he did recognize them (or suspected who they were) immediately. But, he was simply saying he never owned any droids of his own before, which was not a lie. Think of it like when he said "Vader betrayed and murdered your father."
"Many of the truths we live by depend greatly on our own point of view"
- Obi-Wan (Ben) Kenobi
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Connordroid
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date Posted: Dec 04, 2005 10:57 AM
I agree with Darth Revor. During the CLone Wars R2 probably became a hero and millions of people probably coppied the name and colors.
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Connordroid
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date Posted: Dec 04, 2005 10:57 AM
I agree with Darth Revor. During the CLone Wars R2 probably became a hero and millions of people probably coppied the name and colors.
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Darth Chockerious
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date Posted: Dec 04, 2005 11:30 PM
I agree with the point that Obi-Wan never owned a droid, since he was a Jedi and everything belonged to the Temple (R2 and C3PO technically belonged to Padme, although R2 is probably property of the Government of Naboo, who thinks it was destroyed during the Clone Wars) Even Anakin didn't own R2 only used him. Also think of the droids as an old car you use to drive. After 20 years had passed since the last time you saw it, it would take a while for you to believe that it is the very same car. Last, I am sure that R2's full number wasn't spoken to Obi-wan at first.
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Elflord_99
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date Posted: Dec 06, 2005 1:37 PM
I'm sure the R2 unit was a bestseller the year it was rolled out. Millions were probably made.
And Obi-wan was in exile, he couldn't reveal too much, what if the Empire owned those droids and were using them as spies? - Obi-wan had to be careful.
And it was the will of the force that had Leia contact Obi-wan through Luke. Her mission was to Alderaan, the intro states she was going home, not looking for Obi-wan. Her message in the R2 unit was diplomat, she was to contact Obi-wan if she got into trouble, per Bail Organa.
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DarthNerdious3
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date Posted: Dec 06, 2005 2:41 PM
3P0 adressed obi-wan in rots as "Master Kenobi", so they were familiar with each other, and anakin owned R2, so he would have known him very well. He was just hiding it, because of their relation to anakin, and the questions that would have been raised.
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Darth Italiano
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date Posted: Mar 18, 2006 11:08 AM
Good point. I was wondering that myself..............but i think he did remember because he also didn't say anything about how he brought look to Tatoine and stuff. If you think about it theres A LOT of things that Obi didn't tell Luke/
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