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 | Check your facts, Anakin |
In Revenge of the Sith, when Anakin is expressing his anger at the Jedi Council because they didn't promote him to Master, he speaks a line that has stuck in my mind since I last saw the movie (about two months ago):
"Put me on the council and not make me a Master? It's never been done in the history of the Jedi Order!"
Wrong, Anakin. Very wrong. I'm actually surprised G.L. and his team didn't catch this.
As devoted Star Wars fans will remember from the Episode I Visual Dictionary and other such resources, Ki-Adi-Mundi actually served on the Council during the time of The Phantom Menace--at which point he was still a Jedi Knight.
Now, one could make the argument that Lucas knew about this and intended Anakin to be misinformed, thus adding to his image of being a hate-filled, confused young man. Personally, I think they were working so hard on getting this movie out on time that small things like this slipped through the cracks. Don't get me wrong, I loved the film; it's my favorite of all six (yes, I know, blasphemy). Plus, the editing and special effects were better than any other movie I've seen in a while (a while being since Episode II). But when you have all this pressure on the Lucasfilm folks to get the last movie of the saga out on time, there are things that get forgotten, simply because they aren't as glaring as a missing chroma keying job or an undelivered line.
I want to believe that it's just Anakin's rage clouding his clear judgment or his memory, but I'm not so sure. He manages to function quite well in every other way during this time (with the exception of getting a sound night's sleep). This leads me to believe that Palpatine's influence has not yet tainted him to the point of intellectual blindness.
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Granny-Wan I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
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date Posted: Oct 18, 2007 9:20 PM
Hmmm, maybe the Episode I Visual Dictionary was wrong... but your explanation concerning Anakin works, too... anything he could find to whine about, he would...
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guiguioh A journey into the Star Wars universe
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date Posted: Oct 19, 2007 1:04 AM
There is already an official retcon for this. When Ki-Adi-Mundi was assign to the Council, he was a Jedi Knight yes, but the procedure to make him a Master was already ongoing. With Anakin, it was not the case.
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FAN4YRS A Rebel's Ramblings
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date Posted: Oct 19, 2007 4:11 AM
I think it's just another instance where the movies and the books don't meet. I really think that at the end of the day all Lucas cares about is the films and if he contradicts something in the books he isn't concerned (because most people won't read the books anyway).
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jediprincess77 I Know...
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date Posted: Oct 19, 2007 7:15 AM
Thanks for clearing it up, guiguioh. And yeah, I'm guessing FAN is right. Georgie doesn't care as much for what others write about his movies, he just wants to make HIS movies HIS way. Good question, though! I absolutely love the visual dictionaries, but I missed this inconsistency. Nice catch!
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slow Slow's Rebel Ramblings
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date Posted: Oct 19, 2007 9:31 AM
Also in The Return Of The Jedi Novelisation it states that Leia AND her mother were taken to Alderaan...not about her ding in childbirth. Holes holes holes. But it's ok.
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Granny-Wan I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
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date Posted: Oct 19, 2007 3:04 PM
The New Complete Visual Dictionary contradicts itself in places... on one page it says there were 9,000 Jedi at the start of the Clone War, and on another page it says 10,000...
Also, on a picture of a lightsaber it points to the knob that attaches to the belt clip and calls it a "recharging port". Sorry, but lightsabers don't have to be re-charged...
Remember, the movies are canon... they're George's creations...
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Jade Sabre777 A luminous being, I am...
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date Posted: Oct 19, 2007 9:25 PM
Thanks for bringing this up! And great job, guiguioh!
Sorry, but lightsabers don't have to be re-charged...
If I remember correctly, the Jedi Apprentice series claimed that they did. Do other sources contradict this?
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jkelly There Is No Conflict
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date Posted: Oct 19, 2007 11:50 PM
I have a long and involved theory about alleged "discrepencies" but the upshot is that the films came out the way they did and they are "perfect" -- therefore, I like the theory that Anakin is just ticked and forgetting his history lesson. So, even if it is a GL "mistake" it is ultimately "meant to be" by the literary muses.
Correct me if I'm wrong, though, but doesn't Mace shoot a glance over to Ki-Adi-Mundi at this point? Not a mistake, but an over-looked plot point, perhaps?
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meet_the_general
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date Posted: Oct 20, 2007 5:15 PM
see i didnt know ki-adi-mundi was a jedi knight at the council, but then again who does, i only read the comics and the chapter books, anything eles like starwars dictionary can change so dont rely on them, Plus in the case the master dont trust anikin so why make him a master(big mistake jedi scum)
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Fish1941
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date Posted: Oct 22, 2007 8:03 AM
Personally, I think they were working so hard on getting this movie out on time that small things like this slipped through the cracks. Don't get me wrong, I loved the film; it's my favorite of all six (yes, I know, blasphemy).
In other words, you are assuming that Lucas had made a mistake, when in reality you don't know.
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Fish1941
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date Posted: Oct 22, 2007 8:04 AM
Also in The Return Of The Jedi Novelisation it states that Leia AND her mother were taken to Alderaan...not about her ding in childbirth. Holes holes holes. But it's ok.
I think the mistake had been made in the ROTJ novel. Why on earth would Padme choose to stay with one child over the other? That had never made any sense to me.
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Elflord_2006
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date Posted: Oct 22, 2007 3:05 PM
Having both Skywalker kids together would be easy for the Emperor to sense them. That's why Yoda lived near the tree cave, to offset his lightness.
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Master_nemesis2
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date Posted: Oct 26, 2007 10:23 AM
"Sorry, but lightsabers don't have to be re-charged...
If I remember correctly, the Jedi Apprentice series claimed that they did. Do other sources "
Ok my comment about this is that i NEVER heard or red lightsabers needing recharge!! its redicilous!! IF they need recharge the jedi is very voulnrable . what if his saber turns of in the middle of the battle .
About Anakin's theory,,, in my oppinion Palpatine misled him to strenghten his anger twords the Jedi Council.
P.S. sorry for misstyping some words but i aint good at wrighting in English
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