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Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
date posted: Jun 21, 2006 4:34 PM  |  updated: Jun 21, 2006 4:37 PM
Star Wars vs. Firefly
Serenity Day is coming this Friday. As such, we shall indulge in a bit of speculation about a hypothetical duel-to-the-death for a second.

What if George Lucas and Joss Whedon pitted their creative minds against each other in a winner-take-all death match? Or what if their creations were forced to fight each other in a Pokemon-style tournament? Would the Millennium Falcon blow Serenity to smithereens? Who would shoot first, Mal or Han? Are the antique weapons of Firefly a match for the power of the force? Or could we just play the fruity oaty bar commercial and have every Star Wars character lying on the ground bleeding within thirty seconds?

Who in all nine Corellian hells* cares?

Inspired by some comments by both hansgirl3 and Darth Vicomte, I would like to express a few sentiments regarding Star Wars and Firefly.

It seems the trend these days among some bloggers is to positively affirm their love for the Star Wars saga by asserting that it is without question, better than Firefly. But here's the kicker: some of them haven't even seen Firefly yet, and refuse to do so based on the premise that Star Wars is the greatest bunch of movies of all time, and Firefly wouldn't even come close.

I, for one, an absolutely baffled by this logic (or, more accurately, lack thereof). Star Wars is great, there is no disputing that around here. Does this mean that all Star Wars fans could not possibly ever watch any other movies or television shows and, god forbid, enjoy them? Could watching Firefly somehow compromise one's Star Wars fanboy status? Surely most Star Wars fans enjoy alternative forms of entertainment that may be completely unrelated to Star Wars. Heck, my name is Marvolo, which is definitely not inspired by a Star Wars character.

Even more rage-inducing is the uninformed assumption that Firefly is a rip-off of Star Wars. Wrong. Especially if one follows this statement with something along the lines of "and that's why I will never watch Firefly!" This is just a thought, but doesn't that somewhat affect the credibility of the first statement? I'll spell it out for you: how can you possibly know anything about Firefly or Serenity if you haven't bothered to watch either?

Assuming you have actually seen Firefly, you will surely concur that the similarities between Star Wars and Firefly are few and far between. Both shows involve people and spaceships, in space. That's about it. So by this logic, every single science fiction movie or television show made since 1977 is a rehash of the Star Wars films, and should go ignored.

There is no need to compare Star Wars and Serenity whatsoever. They are two distinct (and might I add excellent) movies.** It doesn't matter which one is better, has a larger fan following, or was more successful at the box office. For one thing, "better" is entirely a matter of opinion. Most importantly, both Star Wars and Serenity can be excellent movies. The fact that Serenity is a good movie has nothing to do with Star Wars.

Firefly is unique, original, and frankly, refreshing compared to most of the luh-suh on television these days that we have to put up with. It's a rare gem among the awful reality TV shows and half-assed dramas that have sprouted up like weeds and taken over every network's programming in the past few years. And best of all, when you watch it on DVD, you don't have to sit through sixteen and a half-minutes of mind-numbing commercials!

And yet herein lies the problem: Firefly is no longer on television. The series was cancelled after eleven episodes. This wonderful show is sitting on the video store shelf waiting to be bought, yet many are not even aware that this quality television series has ever existed. So us browncoats seek to spread the word about Firefly, largely through the use of a magical invention known as the internet. And yes, this means that inevitably, word of this show spreads to the blogs on the official Star Wars site.

Take a browncoat's advice, and give Firefly a go. Or, pick up Serenity this Friday, June 23rd.

I'm asking you to branch out by exploring another science fiction series. And trust me, I'm doing you a favour by recommending them.


* I've read Traitor, so I'm not just stealing Rive's expression. I can use it now and understand the reference!
** Well, technically one is a set of movies. Er...two sets, I guess. Sue me.

  DarthVicomte
Vicomte's Blog Extravaganza (Now Defunct)
date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 4:42 PM
Take that YoYo!

K-fan better step up, otherwise I have to buy those special International shipping coupons...;)
  Marvolo7
Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 4:47 PM
Take that YoYo!

Oh, I do hope he is reading this...


So how's the life of a free man treating you?
  gahmah80
Gahmah's Lair of Trauma (Blog Closed Due to Inability to Renew Hyperspace Account)
date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 4:52 PM
"and that's why I will never watch Firefly!"
That is definetly a good way to describe chauvinistic fans.
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  DarthVicomte
Vicomte's Blog Extravaganza (Now Defunct)
date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 5:12 PM
So how's the life of a free man treating you?

Like a baby treats a diaper.
  jedilily1026
Years Matter Not (Gone Crazy...Be Back Soon)
date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 5:18 PM
I just received Serenity in the mail. I'm with Netflix and ordered it b/c of the hype here. "Got to keep up with the times". I'll probably watch it late Friday after the grandpadawans are asleep. I'll let you know my thoughts.

Awful reality TV shows and half assed dramas I do know what you mean. It's gotten so that some days I don't even turn on the TV. Sooooo much crap.
  Kenobi-fan
The Jundland Wastes Journal
date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 5:44 PM
K-fan better step up, otherwise I have to buy those special International shipping coupons...
B-)
  jedivnsnator
The Trash Compactor
date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 5:50 PM
Darn. I was hoping that blog would be like some big wrestling-match showdown thing, with Star Wars slapping Firefly on the mat and Firefly dive-bombing Star Wars fro the ropes. It was actually intelligent, though. *sigh*...

If Star Wars is a space opera, then Firefly is a space western. I know it's been said, but it's true. So, if you like westerns, you may like Firefly. If you don't like the western style genre, Firefly probably isn't your cup of tea.

I'm not sure if that goes for Star Wars too...not many people here like opera, and yet we all love Star Wars...how does that work? Maybe my entire assesment is wrong...not that I care, since I'm kinda used to that by now...
  "shaggy" fett
A Bounty Hunter's Memoirs
date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 6:11 PM
no one likes opera because when we think opera, we think annoyingly high pitched voices screeching words we can't understand on account of us being distracted by the annoyingly high pitches of the voices themselves.

what i like about the firefly series is that it is unique. name one other tv show or movie that has space, saloons, and cowboy hats all in one? ya...didn't think so. i will admit, when i frist heard about firefly i was skeptical at best. but then some people kept saying it was awesome, so i checked it out. i had such faith in these people's opinions i hashed out 25 dollars for the series off of ebay. let me say, that 25 dollars did not go to waste.

don't knock it 'til you try it!
hansgirl3
Invoking the Squee
date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 7:00 PM
Yea!!!! *claps emphatically* Great job, Marvolo!!!! :)

I know what you mean, shaggy. I bought my set of Firefly at Best Buy without having seen any of the series beforehand for $40 purely on the recommendation of everyone here! Now that's faith!

I was not dissapointed. I love the series! I am on my second time through (much to my hubby's dismay as I have yet to get him to sit down and watch it). ;

BTW, thanks for the nod, Marvy! :)
jkthunder
Seven Pieces
date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 8:09 PM
Space and spaceships R kewl :D
  Marvolo7
Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 8:34 PM
That is definetly a good way to describe chauvinistic fans.

Gorram kids these days...

Like a baby treats a diaper.

Oh, good. I'm glad I asked. ;

It's gotten so that some days I don't even turn on the TV.

For me, Battlestar Galactica is television's only redeeming feature. All hail the DVD!
  Marvolo7
Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 8:35 PM
Darn. I was hoping that blog would be like some big wrestling-match showdown thing, with Star Wars slapping Firefly on the mat and Firefly dive-bombing Star Wars fro the ropes.

It's good to see that I managed to fool one person with my misleading title. My work here is done. :D

Actually, I was thinking of doing a showdown spoof, but I realized that I would basically be repeating the comments posted here, and that I would run out of material after two paragraphs. Oh well.
  Marvolo7
Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 9:02 PM
If Star Wars is a space opera, then Firefly is a space western.

Exactly, two different sub-genres. I never realized that I liked space western until I saw Firefly. However, it's not the genre that makes the movie/show/book enjoyable for me (OK, I do stay away from trashy romance, soap operas, and the like), but what is done with the story and the characters. The concept of Firefly seemed a bit strange to me when I first heard about it, but the characters made the show so compelling.
  Marvolo7
Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 9:17 PM
shaggy and hansgirl, I also decided to buy Serenity based on the advice of bloggers. In retrospect, I should have watched Firefly first, but I would have preferred to spend only $20 rather than $40 if I ended up hating it. Obviously, there was no need to worry.

I am, however, conducting some little experiments as I introduce people to the show. I make sure to show the series in order, so that viewers are misled about who the villain is in the pilot episode. And I don't let them watch Serenity until they've finished the series, in order to build up the mystery about River and to get viewers attached to the characters (which is easier with 14ish hours of the series than the two in the movie).
  macewindu882
Don't Go All Chewie On Me!
date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 10:28 PM
Well, ya did a gorram fine job. Very enjoyable read. If only I could think of a subject for my "Serenity Day themed" blog.
  NecRomance
date Posted: Jun 22, 2006 3:54 AM
Aha! Nice entry! Bet you got a lot of readers with a title like that... ;)

I'm glad television in my country isn't that bad, generally - but sadly, my TV died on me last thursday. :( But I'll be getting myself a new one next week! :D
hansgirl3
Invoking the Squee
date Posted: Jun 22, 2006 7:00 AM
In retrospect, I should have watched Firefly first,

I agree. I actually watched a little less than half of Serenity, then bought Firefly. So, I watched the pilot episode and then finished Serenity. The movie worked much better for me after that.

The movie can stand on it'd own pretty well, but is much BETTER after at least the pilot episode because you get the character backgrounds. There's just a little confusion without the backgrounds.
  Dr. Yôda
The Boy Has No Patients
date Posted: Jun 22, 2006 9:37 AM
Firefly

Waht was that for Marvolo??
  bluejedi32
The Force Is All Around Us
date Posted: Jun 22, 2006 11:08 AM
Star Wars Rules!!!!!!!!!!!

Firefly sucks really big. It is the dumbest show ever.
  NecRomance
date Posted: Jun 22, 2006 2:46 PM
Firefly sucks really big. It is the dumbest show ever.
You're actually a big fan, right? ;)
  Input Name
date Posted: Jun 22, 2006 6:25 PM
The movie can stand on it'd own pretty well, but is much BETTER after at least the pilot episode because you get the character backgrounds. There's just a little confusion without the backgrounds.

So true, most people don't even get the end scene with all the dinosaurs around the pilot's console.
  Input Name
date Posted: Jun 22, 2006 6:27 PM
I saw bits and pieces of the show when it aired on fridays. My mother and older brother would watch Firefly and John Doe on the kitchen TV while my younger brothers and I would watch other shows with my dad in the living room. When the reruns started on SciFi, my whole family would sit down and watch them.
  Input Name
date Posted: Jun 22, 2006 6:27 PM
Finally, when Serenity went into theatres again, my siblings and I would watch all the commercials. It got to the point where we could quote the "Do you wanna run this ship?!" scene in perfect unison with the TV. When we saw the movie, everyone in the theatre laughed when they heard a chorus of "Yes! Well...You can't!" in the front row. The worst part of the movie, though, is in the end, during the Rever attack. Other than that, on my list of favorites, it's second to The Princess Bride, and before Star Wars.
  Marvolo7
Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
date Posted: Jun 22, 2006 8:10 PM
Waht was that for Marvolo??

Some call it spam. I call it guerilla marketing. Just watch the show already!


This next one deserves its own comment reply...(con't)
  Marvolo7
Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
date Posted: Jun 22, 2006 8:28 PM
Star Wars Rules!!!!!!!!!!!

If one actually took the time to read the blog, which, at a whopping 750 words would have certainly kept you up all night and strained your brain cells to a bursting point, one might realize that I had not once tried to contest that point.

Firefly sucks really big. It is the dumbest show ever.

But maybe you're right. I shouldn't have blogged about Firefly. I should use my blog to complain about not getting my caption posted, or to post useless questions that I wish other bloggers would spoon-feed me the answers to! I'll try to do better next time.
  gof22
date Posted: Jun 26, 2006 11:03 AM
I seen firefly before on tv. It was good I guess. not great but good. My question is this though why did they change the name of the movie to serenity if the show was called firefly?
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