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 | Where's my Darth Bane? |
 Just where is Darth Bane? He's currently in bookstores all over the world, but he's nowhere near Star Wars.com.
(EDIT: Nevermind, he's right here!)*
Yes, my fellow Star Wars fans, today is a very exciting day. On this day, a brand-spanking new Star Wars book comes to a store near you!
What, you ask?
Yeah, that's what I said, too. You see, I consider myself to be fairly well-versed in Star Wars-related news, and in expanded universe literature. However, I had almost completely forgotten that Drew Karpyshyn's new Darth Bane-centric novel, Path of Destruction, is released today. Had this matter not been brought to my attention by my buddy in blogging, luuke.skywalker, I would be without knowledge of this important day in September.
I would like to ask: WHY?
Now, before you get all snarky and reply, "why not?" consider the following:
Path of Destruction is a hardcover book that is highly anticipated by Star Wars comic fans, including yours truly. Remember the last time a Star Wars hardcover was released? It was back in May, when Legacy of the Force: Betrayal came out. The novel was front and center at the official site. There were constant updates being made, interviews with Aaron Allston being posted, and a lot of hype surrounding the release of this book. Bloodlines was no different. Interviews were conducted. Book signings were announced. Boba Fett's mug, which graced the front cover of the book, was ever-present around these parts. No less than three articles on Bloodlines were up on the main site during the week it was released alone!
But where oh where is Darth Bane? Let's check the " What's New" page, your one-stop source for all Star Wars related announcement! Nothing. Okay, moving on. Let's check the expanded universe page. It's bound to be there. Nope. Well, we've got a Mando'a glossary, and news about the Legacy of the Force series is all over the page, but the most recent news about Path of Destruction is from March 31st, 2006 -- back when the cover was first revealed.
Path of Destruction was most certainly released today. I know, because it is currently sitting on my desk. And in my opinion, its release is very newsworthy.
In fact, I think Star Wars.com should be pushing this one like crazy. Star Wars fans who aren't completists are more likely to pick up a paperback with an ageing Mandalorian buckethead on the front than a hardback with some ugly and unrecognizable Sithy-looking man on the front. Buying Path of Destruction requires a leap of faith on the part of the fan -- it's a story set in a completely different era than the movies, with entirely different characters (either from comics or original ones). It might be a good idea to cultivate a bit of hype surrounding this novel, in order to entice fans to take that leap of faith and lay down the benjamins for a hardcover book.
For me, the leap of faith is what makes this novel such an exciting concept. I would love to see the expanded universe exploring the past or far off into the future, rather than constantly retreading the same ground with the same characters. It allows for fewer canon restrictions and more original characters. Personally, I enjoy stories that provide background information or fill in the gaps between movies. But there are only so many times Luke Skywalker can be put into mortal peril during the rebellion era, only to survive at the last second because, well, he can't exactly die when he's alive in the movie set two months later. I want to become invested in compelling original characters who aren't predestined to show up again in an already-published book or movie. I want previously unexplored eras to take center stage in the expanded universe. Comics like Legacy, Kevin J. Anderson's Knights of the Old Republic feature original characters in previously unexplored eras. Though Path of Destruction will be restricted to a greater extent by the Jedi vs. Sith comic and the eventual "rule of two" outcome, the concept of taking the road less travelled is a good one. There are epic wars and earth-shattering conflicts to be had, all without disturbing future events. I'm looking forward to this book. You should too.
And so, I return from my digression to the point of this blog. Why is Path of Destruction going ignored by the official Star Wars site?
Is it because it doesn't feature Mandalorians? Frankly, I would rather read about the finer points of Sith philosophy and the history of the Sith Order than a bunch of amoral war-mongerers turned-mercenaries who are, for some inexplicable reason, worshipped by innumerable fanboys. But maybe that's just me.
No, seriously. I really want to know. Where in the nine Corellian hells is Darth Bane?
Any ideas?
*EDIT: Mystery solved. It looks like updates are made later in the day, so the interview with Drew Karpyshyn is now available!
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grayson* screaming though cabonite
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 2:51 PM
i agree.
this book should be hyped.
i'm jazzed to finally have it.
hopefully they are waiting to put up something worth waiting for.
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hansgirl3 Invoking the Squee
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 2:54 PM
I know not where it is, fair Marvy, but I am going to purchase it forthwith!
Actually, I had been looking forward to this one myself and have been wondering where an article on its release might be...
Hmmm? One wonders...
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The Stooge Star Wars Joke-A-Day
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 3:05 PM
Good question! The OS hasn't updated yet today, maybe there will still be a mention of it...
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Granny-Wan I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 4:21 PM
Frankly, I would rather read about the finer points of Sith philosophy and the history of the Sith Order than a bunch of amoral war-mongerers turned-mercenaries who are, for some inexplicable reason, worshipped by innumerable fanboys. But maybe that's just me.
No, it's not just you!
I'd much rather read something a little more intellectual in nature than the mindless stuff churned out by the clone people. (Wow, that sounds weird, doesn't it?)
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Granny-Wan I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 4:27 PM
It's all politics... some authors have a tremendous amount of influence on this site. Which is totally WRONG of course, and unethical... it up to us, the TRUE fans of Star Wars to balance the books, so to speak.
I'm glad you found the book, I'm looking forward to your review of it!
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Marvolo7 Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 4:33 PM
hopefully they are waiting to put up something worth waiting for.
I'm willing to hold out for an interview with the author...I guess...
I know not where it is, fair Marvy, but I am going to purchase it forthwith!
Thankfully, Canadian bookstores did not screw up this time. Bloodlines came horrendously late. Thankfully, Path of Destruction was on time.
The OS hasn't updated yet today, maybe there will still be a mention of it...
I'll be waiting at the computer...
Literally. It's an excellent form of procrastination.
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Marvolo7 Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 4:34 PM
I'd much rather read something a little more intellectual in nature than the mindless stuff churned out by the clone people.
Ah, a tad cryptic, but I agree. Let's leave it at that.
to us, the TRUE fans of Star Wars to balance the books, so to speak.
Maybe I should adopt Sol's tactics and leave "Path of Destruction" as a comment on every blog I see. Although I doubt it would endear me to a lot of bloggers.
Well, he's not here at my house either but I hope to get my hands on him soon.
And on that note, I'll be in my bunk...
...reading Path of Destruction.
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Hedec Ga War Journal of Hedec Ga
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 4:41 PM
Holy crap!  Darth Bane came out today?! Man, I was wanting that, too! Well, this certainly goes to prove your point. I agree, this should have been on the front page. Thanks for the note Marvolo! I gotta rush out and get that now.
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Yoda1245
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 4:41 PM
Actually the book was released before today because i bought it in a bookstore in Cape May, NJ on Saturday the 23rd. I dont know if the dates were wrong but it was released before today.
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Son of a Bith The Cantina Corner
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 5:50 PM
Well, that was kind of a cheap shot towards Mandalorians, their fans, and worst of all, the extremely talented writers that portray them.
But no hard feelings.
I too am jazzed to finally see a novel dealing with the Sith of the Old Republic, long before the time of the 6 films. It has always been a fascination to me since the days of the Tales of the Jedi comics. They are just so bold. They have this feeling of antiquity that is so far removed from the retro aesthetics of the PT or the modern "used future" industrial look of the OT.
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Jedi Arwen Skywalker
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 6:17 PM
I can't wait to see this, it's a new topic, instead of Luke being blown up again...
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ewanandhaydenfan5 I Have You Now!
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 6:56 PM
Thanks for this post, Marv! I had no idea the book was released today!
Sorry I've been "dead" to the world lately, things have been and will continue to be really busy.
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Dark Spork Sporktastic Voyage
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 6:58 PM
Put down the conspiracy theories - it's actually pretty rare for sw.com to do much about a newly released book until the actual day it's out. And they don't usually update until late evening/afternoon depending on your time zone.
In fact... http://starwars.com/eu/lit/novel/f20060926/index.html
And yeah, you might want to take Son of Bith's friendly suggestion and refrain from the cheap shots in the future.
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Granny-Wan I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 7:00 PM
Well, that was kind of a cheap shot towards Mandalorians, their fans, and worst of all, the extremely talented writers that portray them.
It's her blog, she has every right to voice her opinion in it... even if everyone doesn't agree with it. Besides, how much talent does it take to keep regurgitating Boba Fett?
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Granny-Wan I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 7:05 PM
Put down the conspiracy theories - it's actually pretty rare for sw.com to do much about a newly released book until the actual day it's out
Did you even READ the blog? Particularly paragraph 7?
And yeah, you might want to take Son of Bith's friendly suggestion and refrain from the cheap shots in the future.
Yes, because you can't say what you think in your own blog if it goes against the crowd... more politics...
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Marvolo7 Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 7:13 PM
Cheap shots?
I would like to know where I made a cheap shot. I simply voiced a dislike for Mandalorians as in-universe characters, which is my opinion. I said absolutely nothing about the authors who portray them.
The suggestion that this blog was a conspiracy theory is a stretch, too. It was an observation that the Legacy of the Force series received more coverage on the main site, and I wondered why.
So thank you, Dark Spork, for answering my question and bringing the interview to my attention.
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Dark Spork Sporktastic Voyage
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 7:14 PM
Particularly paragraph 7?
Yes. And the timing was similiar in those cases. And you can't have a tour without telling folks. Then there's the part where a lot of your less obsessed SW fans probably don't even know who Darth Bane is... I don't think it has as much mainstream appeal as some of the other releases, hype or no hype. Hell, I'm a 'hardcore' fan and I'm not going to buy this one.
Yes, because you can't say what you think in your own blog if it goes against the crowd... more politics...
No, it's about being respectful to your fellow posters. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Diviner525 In the Flesh
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 7:17 PM
Thanks to Marvy and Luuke for the notice on this one. Darth Bane (same as Darth Plagueis) is very intriguing, and any info we can get about either one is primo stuff.
"Only two there can be. A Master and an Apprentice."
D525.
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jkthunder Seven Pieces
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 7:37 PM
Trying to decide if I want this in hardcover. Don't want to wait for paperback, but then again I have too many other partly read books going. I'll prolly get it when it hits sale prices.
LOL - it was kind of funny reading this in the evening, after they had posted an article on the expanded universe pages. They've been touting about this book about as much as any other. The difference with Bloodlines is the timing with Karen Travis's short story in SW Insider too. Sure some books get more hype. Such is the publishing industry.
There's been an adequate buzz about POD in the BCAT forums too. 
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Marvolo7 Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 7:42 PM
LOL - it was kind of funny reading this in the evening, after they had posted an article on the expanded universe pages.
 Yeah, I suppose paragraph #7 doesn't work as well anymore...
Trying to decide if I want this in hardcover.
I ended up going for it, since I'm pretty excited about this one. I'm still holding out for the Outbound Flight paperback, though.
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Granny-Wan I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 8:50 PM
No, it's about being respectful to your fellow posters. Nothing more, nothing less.
I don't see where calling Marvolo's observations "cheap shots" is very respectful ...
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Dark Spork Sporktastic Voyage
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 9:35 PM
I don't see where calling Marvolo's observations "cheap shots" is very respectful ...
I read baiting in the Mando comments. Maybe it was intended, maybe it wasn't. Is there an emoticon for shrug?
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Son of a Bith The Cantina Corner
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 9:51 PM
Like I said, I didn't mean to disrespect Marvolo. It is more of a warning to her that she might get in trouble from admins, and invite the wrath of overzealous Mandalorian fanboys. Yes, I admit that fans can get a little overzealous when it comes to Fett and Co., but the SW fandom is a very diverse group of people. They prefer different aspects over others. Us people on this very blog may get a kick out of the Sith and Mandalorians plotting this that or the other thing, but there is a whole other group on this site dedicated to the romance between Anakin and Padme. It's just their thing.
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Jedi Master Mina Another Galaxy, another time
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 10:05 PM
Star Wars fans who aren't completists are more likely to pick up a paperback with an ageing Mandalorian buckethead on the front than a hardback with some ugly and unrecognizable Sithy-looking man on the front.
Praise be to the Force, Marvy!! Amen, sister.
but there is a whole other group on this site dedicated to the romance between Anakin and Padme.
You betcha...LILWA, LILWL, LILWH, LILWOW.
And let's not forget the Luke lover's either, gorramit. Hey, he rescues EVERYBODY. Even those bloody Fett's. LONG LIVE LUKE SKYWALKER.
LMAO...
Thanks, Marvy!!
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Jedi Master Mina Another Galaxy, another time
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 10:07 PM
I read baiting in the Mando comments. Maybe it was intended, maybe it wasn't. Is there an emoticon for shrug?
I don't read no stinkin' baiting in those Mando comments. Just an opinion, that's all. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Marvolo7 Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 10:17 PM
Well, I honestly intended the "Is it because it doesn't feature Mandalorians?" bit to be a joke -- since Mandalorians seem to be a popular subject around here, I was suggesting that SW.com members would (for the most part) rather hear news about Mandalorians in the EU than about Darth Bane. I probably should have put a laughing yodacon there, or something.
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Marvolo7 Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 10:19 PM
The rest of my comments about Mandalorians (war-mongerers, etc.) is my opinion on the matter. Personally, I'm not a fan of them, and I don't understand the obsession with Mandalorians that a significant group within the fandom seems to have. I'm not opposed to inviting a bit of controversy and debate on the subject of Mandalorians, but baiting was definitely not my intention. The comment was not directed at any author, or anyone in particular, for that matter. If any Mandalorian fans disagree with me, I would be happy to discuss my position further in a civilized debate. And yes, fans can get overzealous when it comes to Mandalorians, but one should not be offended by my opinion. They're just fictional characters, after all.
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Dark Spork Sporktastic Voyage
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 10:27 PM
I don't give a fig about the Mandalorians myself, it just turns into such a sensitive issue sometimes. I didn't help this one, I know. I really am sorry for adding fuel to the fire. Can't win for losing, I guess. :P
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Aurin_Starkiller
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 11:16 PM
Hmm...
Dissent is good. It makes people think. It makes people reaffirm why they believe something, and if their thinking is flawed, helps them to change it. I have never been one to discourage controversy, intelligent debate, or a disagreement of opinion because frankly, they can be very instrumental to the development of a community. It is true that this community hasn't been exactly warm to open criticism about social norms. However, if we cannot take criticism, than how mature are we really?
Just a thought. Don't crucify me for it.
God Bless,
May the Force grant us wisdom...
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Aurin_Starkiller
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 11:20 PM
Hell, I'm a 'hardcore' fan and I'm not going to buy this one.
I'm a hardcore fan and an avid reader, but I haven't ever bought a single SW book. Such is the advantage of libraries.
Ooh, an admin said "Hell." I'm going to tell...
Wait, who could I tell?
God Bless,
May the Schwartz be with you...
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Dark Spork Sporktastic Voyage
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date Posted: Sep 26, 2006 11:31 PM
For the record, I am sincere in the apology. I know you folks probably doubt it, but it's true. I screwed up.
Anyway, I am all for debate and disagreement, as long as it's done in a civil matter. But it gets out of hand when people get too many feelings and inklings and personal gobblegook in the way and let them color one's perception of HOW something is being said. And everyone is subject to a little of that, I think.
But I'm not an admin, just a mod, and 'hell' is in ESB, after all! 
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Rogueish W.I.E.R.D.
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date Posted: Sep 27, 2006 12:14 AM
I for one am glad this book is out, although I have not yet purchased it (it's in my amazon shopping basket) - but like others, I have a couple of books piled up waiting to be read, Bloodlines among them. So I'll wait, and I'll wait for Outbound Flight to go paperback as well.
I like all kinds of stuff in Star Wars - I'm not obsessed about Mandos, but I like them. I like Gamorreans too and Rogue Squadron, and Jedi, and Zeltrons. Thats the good thing about it all - many things appeal to many people. I've been eagerly awaiting Path of Destruction since its announcement, yet to some, Outbound Flight was THE book to get.
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Rogueish W.I.E.R.D.
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date Posted: Sep 27, 2006 12:18 AM
(continued)
Tim Zahn fans rejoiced, now Darth Bane fans can rejoice. Mando fans seem to be able to rejoice all the time, lately.
But that's fine.
Star Wars is diverse. Blogging is diverse (hell, you can see my blogs for proof of that!).
I saw no cheap shots in Marv's post, but I can see how it might have looked to somebody who relies on emoticons to sense what somebody's writing. I hate emoticons myself.
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Jedi Arwen Skywalker
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date Posted: Sep 27, 2006 5:10 AM
We forgive you Dark Spork.
I'm totally with Aurin on the library, who needs to spend money if your library is on the job?
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leialookalike1
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date Posted: Sep 27, 2006 5:32 AM
Libraries are the best!!!!!!!!
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luuke.skywalker
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date Posted: Sep 27, 2006 5:53 AM
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rj_peters Memos from the Imperial Finance Department
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date Posted: Sep 27, 2006 9:53 AM
The cover is pretty sweet. My wife even agreed to read it with me because she thought it sounded interesting. This is a first foray into Star Wars books for her. She's a movies only type of gal, but it interests her because it's a 'history' book of sorts in her eyes.
I think DB was hyped as much as most things that come out, but overall I think the official site doesn't do a great job of promoting new releases. The front page should always lists the next few books/comics/games/whatever coming out. When the Droid Guide came out, you wouldn't have known it at all. From comments I've read from Pablo Hidalgo, I think the official site is going to get a revamp sometime in the next year or so.
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Marvolo7 Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
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date Posted: Sep 29, 2006 11:06 PM
I suppose this requires a postscript, of sorts.
Spork, your apology means a lot to me. I understand that I touched on a subject that can easily get out of hand, and I will be sure to tread more carefully around it in the future in order to ensure that misunderstandings are less likely to ensue.
(con't)
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Marvolo7 Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
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date Posted: Sep 29, 2006 11:07 PM
Unfortunately, such is the way of the internet and the written word. Sarcasm and jokes in emails, on message boards, and on blogs, of course, are misinterpreted all the time. I thought the jocular nature of my comment on Mandalorians was apparent because "No, seriously..." follows in the next paragraph, but it's possible that this was not the case for others. We know at least two people misinterpreted it, after all. But I suppose that's the nature of the beast.
I apologize for any misunderstandings that arose.
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Marvolo7 Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
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date Posted: Sep 29, 2006 11:13 PM
I hate emoticons myself.
Me too. I use them in comments, but I rarely think to use them in blogs. Sometimes I liken them to laugh tracks in television shows, which I don't particularly like, either.
When the Droid Guide came out, you wouldn't have known it at all.
I forgot about that! I suppose it's the same situation, where the book is geared towards a smaller portion of the fandom, but there definitely should be something. It would make the most sense to do a feature on a book a few days prior to its release, in my opinion.
I think the official site is going to get a revamp sometime in the next year or so.
I'll stay tuned!
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jkthunder Seven Pieces
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date Posted: Oct 05, 2006 8:16 PM
Hey, did you read it, or start it yet? I'm holding off for a bit to buy it - maybe this weekend. Just checking in to ask.
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Marvolo7 Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
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date Posted: Oct 05, 2006 8:29 PM
I finished it a few days ago. Review is forthcoming...er...eventually. I didn't find it to be outstanding, but it was nevertheless a good read.
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DJ Maul: Got Feet? DJ Maul's Dancin' Cantina Party
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date Posted: Oct 25, 2006 2:55 PM
hey long time no see!
I havent picked this one up yet but its on my list for sure. While I have nothing against Mandalorians per say I too am more inclined to read about Sith history, and the concept for this one intrigues me.
Oh, BTW, maybe YOU know the answer: I bought my copy of "Bloodlines" from Amazon.com used, and its a HARDBACK. I read later its supposed to be ONLY a paperback release...so HOW did I get a hardback???
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