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Truly Wonderful, the Mind of a Child Is...
date posted: Dec 29, 2006 1:45 PM  |  updated: Aug 22, 2008 9:37 AM
Podrace Manipulation
Hello everyone!

I was just thinking about Anakin being the Chosen One (as I just read an old blog on that very subject), and I got to thinking - did Qui-Gon, in his infinite wisdom, connect the dots and guess that Ani was this prophetic person when they first met? He clearly knew that Ani had some Jedi powers, but did he know Ani was going to be the most powerful Jedi?

Then I got to thinking about the TPM podrace (don't ask me why...), and Qui-Gon's faith (not religiously - it's not that kind of blog) in Ani. Why did Qui-Gon believe so much in Ani? Did he actually believe in him, or was he planning something else?

Here's what I think.... I think Qui-Gon didn't believe in Anakin as much as we were lead to believe. I think he rigged the race so his new interest would win, thereby being freed. Now, we all know that Qui-Gon knew that Ani had an incredibly high midi-chlorian count, which sparked much interest in Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan. And although Ani had this amazingly high count, Qui-Gon couldn't have known, at that early point, that Anakin was The Chosen One.

This is why I think Qui-Gon influenced either Anakin, his pod, another racer, or one of their pods, so Ani would win. This way, he could bring Ani back to the Council with an excuse to have him trained. I don't think Qui-Gon believed Ani could have won the race solely on his own.

Yes, Qui-Gon knew Ani was potentionally very powerful, but after all, he was just a 10-year-old boy. An untrained 10-year-old boy at that. Qui-Gon couldn't possibly have trusted his, Obi-Wan's, Padmé's, Threepio's, Artoo's, Jar-Jar's, and all the other Nabooians' lives in the hands of a child who may or may not win a race when he hadn't ever won one before.

Qui-Gon obviously knew somehow Ani would win the race:

Padmé: You've never won a race?
Qui-Gon: Don't worry. You will this time.

(Or something like that...) This much blind faith, I think, shows that Qui-Gon was already planning to manipulate the precedings somehow at that point. He wouldn't have guaranteed this had he not been planning something.

Now let's here what you have to say!

May the Force be with You!

  Elflord_2006
date Posted: Dec 29, 2006 2:01 PM
I believe Qui-Gon trusted the Living Force enough that Anakin would win, but if that's true, it contradicts the scene with Watto were he manipulated the chance cube? The cube should have rolled up Anakin no matter what, if Qui-Gon really believed in the Living Force. Do you ever wonder if Qui-Gon had been alittle more compassionate towards Shmi and waited alittle longer before he snatched up Anakin, maybe Anakin might have been less emotionally unstable? What was the rush to get Anakin in Coruscant? Qui-Gon could have come back for him. Give the kid sometime to say goodbye to his mom. Besides, Qui-Gon was already breaking the rules, why not let Anakin see his mother from time to time?
The Stooge
Star Wars Joke-A-Day
date Posted: Dec 29, 2006 2:26 PM
Good question -- I think it's clear, though, that Qui-Gon did believe that Ani was the chosen one, even before (and during) the podrace. He didn't just come up with the idea while standing in front of the Jedi council, after all. ;)
  stopher717
Stopher: Master of the Jedi-Bendu Art of the Saber
date Posted: Dec 29, 2006 3:14 PM
I think Qui-Gon moved quickly to get Anakin off Tatooine because he knew they were probably going to be followed. He still had his duty to protect the queen's traveling to Coruscant, and even if he had found the Chosen One, a dead queen of a very loyal world would not reflect well on the Jedi order. QG was definitely in tune with politics, however much he stayed out of them.
  stopher717
Stopher: Master of the Jedi-Bendu Art of the Saber
date Posted: Dec 29, 2006 3:17 PM
QG may have also believed that there were choices given by the Living Force, and the outcomes were based on those choices. QG may have been given the choice to affect the outcome of the chance cube and he took it to ensure Anakin would be freed. QG's apparent belief that anakin was the Chosen One would have only pushed him further toward making that decision.
  stopher717
Stopher: Master of the Jedi-Bendu Art of the Saber
date Posted: Dec 29, 2006 3:20 PM
oh, and your quote I believe was actually this:

Padme: You've never one a race......?
Anakin: Well........
Padme: Never even finished?!
Anakin: Kitster's right, this time I'll win.
Hoppy Har Ghost
The Cormyrean Jedi's Holojournal
date Posted: Dec 29, 2006 3:27 PM
That really make sense. What Qui-Gon did without manipulation was something along the lines of betting his life on a cross country runner who can never run the whole course. When I was watching TPM, it never made sense, but I never thought about a way to blog about it until now.
MTFBWYA
SithLord0017
That's a name I've not heard in a long time... a long time.
date Posted: Dec 29, 2006 4:22 PM
Quote: I was just thinking about Anakin being the Chosen One (as I just read an old blog on that very subject),

That was my blog your talking about! lol. The blog he is talking about is this one. Thanks for the reference! :D

Very possible and I even considered this at one point, but I don't think this is what Lucas intended. Good theory that is plausible though. Nice job writing a blog on this. I never even thought to write something on this. Also it's nice to see other people writing blogs on theories still! :D
SithLord0017
That's a name I've not heard in a long time... a long time.
date Posted: Dec 29, 2006 4:22 PM
Oh yeah, and I added you to my blog roll. Nice job.

P.S. The convo. goes:

Padme: You've never won a race?
Anakin: Well, not exactly...
Padme: Not even finished?
Anakin: Kidster's right I will this time.
Qui-gon: Of course you will...

~SL0017
  Ian 6412
The Journals of RC-6412
date Posted: Dec 29, 2006 4:29 PM
Good blog but I jsut don't see it.
and wasn't Anakin 9...
anyways good theory but when did he
influence either ankain or the other racers?
  darth maul517
Darth Jedi Maul Secura
date Posted: Dec 29, 2006 6:44 PM
It could be possible, but I think otherwise. He had faith in Anakin and his abilities. He new Anakin was the Chosen One. At least that is what I think.
  SnoopDarthyDarth
Sith point of view related to real world...
date Posted: Dec 29, 2006 8:04 PM
Blasphemy!!!
Qui-Gon was much more wise and good then he had time to demonstrate (since he was only in 2/3 of a single episode).

Something relatively innocent like manipulating dice or trying to smooth over payment for parts? Yes.., but he would not resort to something as under-handed as rigging the podrace!

He did indeed have 'that' much blind faith in Anakin, his potential and in the living force.

The only thing (sadly) he lacked in was superior skill like ObiWan and Yoda had in lightsaber combat :(
  SnoopDarthyDarth
Sith point of view related to real world...
date Posted: Dec 29, 2006 8:06 PM
I hated seeing him die much more then seeing Windu die :(
kyle228
Truly Wonderful, the Mind of a Child Is...
date Posted: Dec 30, 2006 9:22 AM
That was my blog your talking about! lol.
Yes it was indeed... a great one at that,.
Oh yeah, and I added you to my blog roll. Nice job.
I'm honoured. Thank you very much.
wasn't Anakin 9...
Yes, you're right.
kyle228
Truly Wonderful, the Mind of a Child Is...
date Posted: Dec 30, 2006 3:23 PM
anyways good theory but when did he influence either ankain or the other racers?
Oops, I overlooked this when I was writing the blog. I think he influenced it as it was happening.
That really make sense. What Qui-Gon did without manipulation was something along the lines of betting his life on a cross country runner who can never run the whole course. When I was watching TPM, it never made sense, but I never thought about a way to blog about it until now.
Thanks!! I was always really confused with this part when I watched it as well, until I came up with this theory.
Thanks again for all your comments - much appreciated!
MTFBWY
  Darth Vissie
date Posted: Jan 02, 2007 2:49 AM
Qui-Gon Jinn had always been known to have a big trust in others. Leaving the life of you and your student in the hands of a gungan sounds more than convincing to me. Anyway I don`t think he influenced Anakin or anyone else in the race. His trust in Anakin may have convinced Anakin that he is stronger if he believes in things. Too bad Qui-Gon had to die. He was so wise he might give the story a whole new twist..
  rj_peters
Memos from the Imperial Finance Department
date Posted: Feb 26, 2007 4:30 PM
Qui-Gon may have secretly been doing some business with the Hutts! One never knows...
  Just A Simple Man...
Simple blogs from a Simple Man.
date Posted: Mar 20, 2007 5:33 PM
Nice topic Kyle, but I disagree slightly.

I think Qui-Gon believed Ani was special from the moment he invited them to his home. It made Qui concentrate and realise the 'vergence' in the force. Ani bosts about being able to fix anything and Qui says ' I believe you can.' The way the line is delivered ,with warmth, compassion and sincerity is quite telling for me. It shows Qui-Gon's thoughts for just an instant as he ponders the truth of the words.

'There is something about this boy.'

To confirm his suspisions, later that night Qui does the midichlorian test and by the next morning he is convinced. Convinced enough to risk everything on his belief. To Qui-Gon there is no risk.



  Just A Simple Man...
Simple blogs from a Simple Man.
date Posted: Mar 20, 2007 5:39 PM
So why influence the chance cube?
He concentrated on the moment, felt not thought, he used his instincts and the force was with him.
Which by his own deffinition, is the will of the living force. His whole philosophy boiled down to it's rawest form. In that one wave of his hand, Qui-Gon Jinn affected the entire galaxy forever because of belief.

Just my take on it, although I am a little bit biased in faver of QGJ so please bear that in mnd ;)
Qui-Gon Reborn
The Fifth Dimension
date Posted: Aug 21, 2008 7:04 PM
Hi, Kyle! Here you've been going around and leaving comments on my blog entries, and I didn't even have the curteousy to seriously read yours! Well, it's time to remedy that, and I haven't been disappointed thus far.:D

I'm sorry, but I disagree with you completely, and this is not merely my opinion. I believe I read somewhere that it is canon that QGJ did not manipulate the podrace. I'm trying to find the article...Well, I can't find it, but (trust me on this) I'm positive that it is canon that QG did NOT manipulate the podrace. Ani did it on his own.

MTFBWY!
kyle228
Truly Wonderful, the Mind of a Child Is...
date Posted: Aug 22, 2008 8:22 AM
I haven't been disappointed thus far.
Glad to hear it... I aim to please!

I believe I read somewhere that it is canon that QGJ did not manipulate the podrace
Interesting... I didn't know this. Well, that screws over my entire blog!! :_|

But I still say, as Simple Man said, Qui-Gon didn't have full faith in the Force because he influenced the chance cube... Why are there no simple answers!?!?!

MTFBWY, A!
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