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Miss Padme's Naboo Love Nest
date posted: Aug 16, 2006 9:04 PM
Matchmaker, Matchmaker
Last weekend, I did a mini-marathon of the PT. People noticed when AOTC came out that Palpie arranged for Padmé to be protected by "an old friend," Master Kenobi--and presumably his padawan Anakin as well since Palpie knew darn well whose apprentice he was. Thus followed the theories that Palpatine wanted a mutual distraction with the two, perhaps even hoped they'd fall in love. After all, it is entirely possible Anakin might have admitted during one of his chats with Palpie that he had a crush on Senator Amidala or perhaps, he frequently asked about her. Toward what end? Most theories figured it would distract Padmé from the military creation act vote and better yet, encourage a wedge between Anakin and the Jedi.

But after ROTS, one has to wonder if Palpie had his eye on the carrot to lead Anakin to the dark side all along, at least from the time Anakin reached adulthood. It's Anakin's love for Padmé that leads him to the dark side. Did Palpie forsee that years in advance, which is why he made sure Anakin's path crossed Padmé's again? If so, why were the assassination attempts necessary? Or were those attempts on Padmé's life a red herring, intended to excuse sending her off on a trip alone with Anakin to the most romantic planet in the galaxy? Think about it...Palpie knew Padmé was going back to Naboo. Surely he could have tipped off Jango or any other assassin to track her there and whack her if he really wanted her dead right then. But he didn't. She was needed to serve another purpose. That Padmé and Anakin got married made Palpie's plans even easier.

This leads me to also wonder if perhaps Palpie had something to do with Anakin's dreams in ROTS. He knew Anakin feared Padmé's "certain death." How did he know that if the only people with which Anakin discussed his dreams were Yoda (very vaguely) and Padmé?

As far as I'm concerned, it was the will of the Force that A/P hooked up, even if it did have to act through Palpie. Not because I think it was pre-destined for Anakin to turn to the dark side, but because I think the Skywalker lineage is important to bring the Jedi into a new era. What do you think?

amidalooine
The Emotional Galaxy
date Posted: Aug 16, 2006 9:21 PM
Or were those attempts on Padmé's life a red herring, intended to excuse sending her off on a trip alone with Anakin to the most romantic planet in the galaxy?

Oh, absolutely! If Palps wanted Padme dead right then, she would have been D-E-D!
  DevlenPiett
Star Wars Historical Forum
date Posted: Aug 16, 2006 9:59 PM
It wasn't Palpatine that put the hit out on her it was Nute Gunray. And he wanted her dead. Sure Jango subcontracted to Zam. But that means Zam had to be able to get the Job done as well Because Jango's rep was still on the line. I don't think Palpatine cared either way whether Padme died or not or if she would marry Anakin or not. Anakin was already on a few paths to the dark side already.
jedilily1026
Years Matter Not (Gone Crazy...Be Back Soon)
date Posted: Aug 17, 2006 4:39 AM
She was needed to serve another purpose. I believe so.
If there were no attempts on her life, she wouldn't need a protector. In AOTC, check out the expression on Palpatine's face when he so conveniently suggests Obi-Wan as her protector knowing that Anakin was his Padawan.. It makes me feel as if he had all of it planned. The sly dog. :D
  Jedi Arwen Skywalker
date Posted: Aug 17, 2006 5:26 AM
Certainly he planned it, though I like the idea of the Force acting through him.

Devlen, Palps was minipulating Nute too, so you can't really blame it on Nute.
  DevlenPiett
Star Wars Historical Forum
date Posted: Aug 17, 2006 8:23 AM
Gunray wanted Padme dead for revenge from episode I. That was his price for joining Dooku. If those atempts on her life are supposed to fail why hire the best in the galaxy. The failures weren't for lack of trying. Gunray may be Sidious's minion but he can still have his own agenda.
Qui-Tom Servo loves Padme
You Must Unlearn What You Have Learned
date Posted: Aug 17, 2006 10:00 AM
Palpatine definitely wanted them both distracted. Keep Padme out of his hair politically and keep Anakin away from part of the Jedi code. The irony is that bringing the two together would ultimately be Palpatine's downfall. While he wanted them together for his own reasons, he did not comprehend love at it's purest form, and that blinded him to what Anakin really wanted.
MissPadme
Miss Padme's Naboo Love Nest
date Posted: Aug 17, 2006 8:57 PM
Qui-Tom--Palpatine only saw love as a means to his own ends and not anything else beyond that. It turned out to be his literal downfall.

Devlen--They did try, but Padmé served Palpatine greater purpose alive (for the time being) than trying to appease a pawn like Gunray by making sure she was dead.
anakinside1
Echoes from the Asteroid Field
date Posted: Aug 19, 2006 6:25 AM
Interesting! I don't think I would have believed that Palps could send Anakin dreams through the force until I started reading the Dark Nest trilogy now I think there are so many ways the force can be manipulated to mess with peoples minds. As for Palps trying to bring Ani and Padme together, I wonder if that was a bit of a plan B. In the AOTC novel there is a scene after the "tragedy on the landing platform" where Padme makes a surprise address to the Senate, and I think it talks about Palps being surprised to see her. I think when he couldn't kill her he just rolled with that set back like he did with so many others.
MissPadme
Miss Padme's Naboo Love Nest
date Posted: Aug 19, 2006 11:57 AM
Maybe so, anakinside1. In any case, Palpatine does so much plotting and planning, I wonder how he had time to actually run the galaxy ;).
ewanandhaydenfan5
I Have You Now!
date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 10:41 AM
Did Palpie forsee that years in advance, which is why he made sure Anakin's path crossed Padmé's again?

I wonder how he had time to actually run the galaxy
I've heard the theory brandied about that he never slept!
ewanandhaydenfan5
I Have You Now!
date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 10:44 AM
Woops, please delete my 1st comment, I hit the Submit button too soon.

Did Palpie forsee that years in advance, which is why he made sure Anakin's path crossed Padmé's again?
*SPOILER*
In the novel "Dark Lord", we get into Palps' thoughts, and it is stated that he planned to put Ani and Padme together after the attempts on her life, because he wanted them to fall in love. What a sneaky s.o.b!

I wonder how he had time to actually run the galaxy
Palps never sleeps! :O
MissPadme
Miss Padme's Naboo Love Nest
date Posted: Aug 21, 2006 5:46 PM
I don't see how Palpie could sleep with all of that plotting going on. No wonder he looked like hell by the time he became Emperor ;).

I forgot about that passage in Dark Lord. Generally in movie discussions I avoid bringing in the EU because not everybody reads it and because it didn't come from Papa George himself. (I do read most of the EU though.)
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