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Miss Padme's Naboo Love Nest
date posted: Oct 07, 2006 11:29 PM
From Chic To Geek?
On a sw.com VIP blog about Star Trek's 40th anniversary a month ago, there was mention of what fandom was like in the early-mid 1990s, when skaters were putting Boba Fett stickers on their boards while Trek fans were the mouth-breathing basement dwellers. (I'm not saying I agree with that view, by the way.) Alternative bands wore their love for SW on their sleeves with songs, mentions in interviews, and collectibles in their cribs. The blog entry then made the point that now, at least in the eyes of Darth Media and mundania, uh, we're the mouthbreathing basement dwellers now.

I do remember that era 15 years ago quite well. Back then SW caught a new wave of cool after years of it being underground (and not considered cool). There were all kinds of reasons why. The OT on video and on cable attracted new fans and reignited the love in those who saw the movies as kids. New books and new comics gave the masses new stories for the first time in years. The growth of the internet allowed interested parties to keep in touch. Plus there was the anticipation of new movies.

Collectors were buying back their childhoods, making SW collectibles hot. In fact, collecting SW became a bona fide hobby after the publication of SW: From Concept To Screen To Collectible in 1992. After years of underusing its cash cow, Lucasfilm issued new licenses for new merchandise. The fan club was finally called "The Star Wars Fan Club" again (note to Lucasfilm: keep it that way).

It was during that time I began co-writing and co-publishing the greatest SW fanzine of all time, Blue Harvest (1993-2000). I got a lot of mail from fans all over the world who were thrilled and relieved they were not alone. (Ditto after Dark Horse ran one of my letters 13 years ago.) If I wore a SW t-shirt or hat somewhere, anywhere in the world, I'd get compliments.

By 1999, SW fandom was huge. It was also much more obsessive and much more *public.* Before the late '90s, people didn't have an idea of what SW fans were like. Or at least they forgot the campouts and a few costumed fans at the theaters in the late '70s-early '80s. This is as opposed to the popular, if not always accurate, perception of what Trekkies/Trekkers were like. By the time TPM debuted, the public saw grownups in Jedi robes batting each other with lightsabers as they camped out for 90 days outside of a movie theater. They heard fans go on about how SW was important to their lives. Those fans might have been genuine and sincere, but there's a reason why fen have traditionally not been so chatty with the mundane world about their obsessions. They know it's dangerous to wear their hearts on their sleeves. Therefore, Darth Media proclaimed us the new heirs of ubernerdiness (not in a good way either), making us the brunt of late night t.v. and sitcom jokes. Though the worst of it was a columnist for the Washington Post, the late Mary McGrory, who had the nerve to compare SW fans with the Columbine shooters.

The image from 1999 has more or less stuck. But are we any geekier than our Trek counterparts? No, not really. It's easier to knock a fierce devotion to a fantasy film or anything else like it than a devotion to sports. Even at its nuttiest, sports fandom is still more socially-acceptable. Look at Jimmy Fallon's uberobsessed Red Sox fan character in that movie he did with Drew Barrymore. Even though the guy lived and breathed the Red Sox, he still got the girl, a successful businesswoman who learns to smell the roses by becoming a Red Sox fanatic too. Compare that with the dateless doughy nerd who lived with his folks seen briefly in "Failure To Launch." Somewhere down the line, it'll be some other fandom's turn as the ubergeeky and weird. And maybe then, we'll be hip again ;).

  greenandwhitejedi
Bar 66
date Posted: Oct 08, 2006 5:51 AM
MissPadme's bringin' sexy back :p
  confusedone
I have the fear of being afraid and I'm on strike against strikes
date Posted: Oct 08, 2006 7:15 AM
MissPadme's bringin' sexy back

Um, I haven't gone anywhere. I've been here all this time...:D
anakinside1
Echoes from the Asteroid Field
date Posted: Oct 08, 2006 7:25 AM
And maybe then, we'll be hip again

I had no idea we weren't.;)

Seriously, my love of SW has totally taken me by surprise causing me and my family to challenge our sci-fi stereotypes as I generally breathe through my nose (unless congested) and can't stand the basement.B-)
  confusedone
I have the fear of being afraid and I'm on strike against strikes
date Posted: Oct 08, 2006 8:11 AM
and can't stand the basement.

Yeah, I don't like it either, but it seems suitable for mother...]:)
  Japanese Fett
date Posted: Oct 08, 2006 8:57 AM
Star Trek is wayyyy nerdier.:p At least a lot people think SW is okay, but Star Trek, eww.

Sayonara, & MTFBWY
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Oct 08, 2006 9:55 AM
And maybe then, we'll be hip again

You mean we aren't ;)

Seriously...I thought for sure that I would see all kinds of SW costumes last year when I went out for Halloween. Sadly, that was not the case. I wore Padme's Mustafar outfit (made it lovingly with my own two hands), and people asked me if I was supposed to be "some kind of barbarian woman" :O . I set them straight...and then got, "oh. I'm sorry," an eye roll, and a turn and walk away reaction. I'll be going as Padme' again this year (different outfit), and will wear it proudly!!
  independentjac
"How long can any man fight the darkness, before he finds it in himselft?"
date Posted: Oct 08, 2006 10:11 AM
I personally like being a geek...it sets me apart from those who wear Abercrombie and Fitch and other things in that nature......I think being a nerd (personally I prefer geek) is pretty cool....they call themselves popular with 20 friends and we have FRICKIN' CONVENTIONS! How about them apples?

One thing I seriously hate is people who call us geeks and when something cool in star wars or such comes out, it is the "in" thing.

MissPadme's bringin' sexy back :p

cough cough
  Master Jedi Michael
ANBU File 1262- Master Jedi Michael
date Posted: Oct 08, 2006 2:18 PM
I could acctually careless about how the public sees me. Last time in checked I breathed through my nose and I only spend half my day in the basement playing videogames. I hate how people decided that it's okay to know the name of every single sports star and all their stats and that perfectly all right but people who like things like Star Wars are nerds. It's just shows how messed up society has become as of late.

And maybe then, we'll be hip again

I hope that day never comes. I don't want some posers walking around proclaiming their love for SW because it's the in thing. Why would I want that, so I can finally hang out with those kid's that always picked on me? Boy, thats sure sounds like a lot of fun.
  Master Jedi Michael
ANBU File 1262- Master Jedi Michael
date Posted: Oct 08, 2006 2:22 PM
If your a true fan you shouldn't care about what others think of you liking Star Wars. I wear my Star Wars shirt one day every week and I make sure my SW book is face up when I walk away from my desk. That way people know I don't care what they think and they can put their opinions in an other place I can't mention here. My friends and I talk loud and proud about whatever scifi we feel like talking about and you know what? Most people respect us for it. Some don't but who cares about them? Let them be idiots and only learn how to smoke in High School.

MTFBWY]:)
amidalooine
The Emotional Galaxy
date Posted: Oct 08, 2006 8:05 PM
I just watched Failure To Launch last night, and MAN that part pissed me off!

I get your point, Miss Padme, but I just don't care who think I'm an ubergeek!

Hello, my name is amidalooine...and I...AM...A...GEEK!!!!!

:D
MissPadme
Miss Padme's Naboo Love Nest
date Posted: Oct 09, 2006 6:35 PM
greenandwhitejedi Thanks, I try ;).

anakinside1 Basements are only good for storage. I miss having one to store my collection, actually.

padmeskywalker77 When I volunteered at the Magic of Myth exhibit in 1997, I dressed like Hoth Leia, complete with braids around my head. You'd be shocked at how many people asked me who I was dressing up as ?:|

independentjac Don't you hate those bandwagoneers?

MasterJediMichael I don't like poseurs either but it would be nice if the rest of mundania didn't treat us as though we're wasting our lives :).

amidalalooine Well, I've been long out of the geek closet ;).
  Oboe-Wan
Oboe-Wan's Hive of Scum & Villainy
date Posted: Oct 25, 2006 11:23 PM
Star Trek is wayyyy nerdier.
I gotta admit, nothing makes me more frustrated than people who accuse me of being a Star Trek fan!! Get it right, guys, STAR WARS! :^O

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