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 | Moose Poodoodate posted: Oct 18, 2005 6:21 PM | updated: Oct 19, 2005 6:38 AM |

 | Questions of the Saga |
 Recently while Ryan Kaufman was offering some commentary, he noted some of the many central themes posed by the Star Wars saga - themes that were best expressed as questions the story had you ask yourself. Though in many cases Star Wars does not go so far as to answer these questions, it does a fine job of pointing out some important moral issues both for individuals and for national conscience.
These questions are often leveraged heavily against some of the most important action and drama in all 6 films. Once he pointed these out, I began to realize that there were central questions the saga asked of me as well. In most every instance, the saga demonstrates what happens when the different approaches of good and evil are applied.
Ryan pointed out a handful as samples of these weighty issues. Here are some of Ryan's questions, denoted with an "RK", and in addition some of mine, denoted with a "DM"...
Is it wrong to do something harmful to help someone you love?
--RK
Does an unelected elite have the right to rule the common majority?
--RK
How can we find common ground with people who are "alien" to us?
--RK
What is the value of mentors, and should we question their own moral quality, or can we learn from their teachings alone?
--RK
Does old age bring wisdom?
--RK
What does attachment really mean and how does it affect our lives, our happiness, and our spiritual well-being?
--RK
Can fear for your loved ones become a quest for control?
--DM
Is it possible to love something or someone so much, so selfishly, that you destroy what or who you love?
--DM
How do good and innocent people become evil?
--DM
Is morality merely a point of view?
--DM
Does advanced technology always mean social progress?
--DM
Does one person truly have the ability to change everything?
--DM
Is it your responsibility to help change everything for the better if you could?
--DM
What is more important - Loyalty to the State, Loyalty to the Regime, or Loyalty to the Ideals on which the State was founded?
--DM
What happens when these loyalties are in conflict with each other? What is the right thing to do?
--DM
Do democracies turn into dictatorships?
--DM
Are there times when fighting means losing, but understanding means winning?
--DM
Is compassion ever more powerful than anger?
--DM
What happens if you believe in yourself? What happens if you don't?
--DM
Do all heroes "look" or "act" like you would expect?
--DM
Are heroes always good people, on the "right" side?
--DM
Is it ever too late to change?
--DM
I'll not do the saga a disservice and be so glib as to answer these in 25 words or less. They are clearly important and in some cases ancient questions that are at the core of civilization, and of being human.
There are certainly other questions it asks us, and I'm sure you may have recognized a few yourself. That's what's beautiful about this story - each of us finds something slightly different, something that feels like the very bones of civilization and it's long-suffered story of human strife.
The fact that the Star Wars saga asks these of us, and offers us the opportunity to find the answers ourselves, reveals the saga for what it truly is and always was - a first step into a larger world.
DM out
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Rive Caedo Rive's Uncharted Settlements
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date Posted: Oct 18, 2005 6:41 PM
"Sometimes" "Usually" "Often" "Yes" "William Shatner" "Only before 9AM"
The only ones I think have a definite global answers are:
Does advanced technology always mean social progress?
Always? No, history alone can show you that.
Does old age bring wisdom?
No, the life-experience inherent through old age can.
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Oct 18, 2005 6:44 PM
"Sometimes" "Usually" "Often" "Yes" "William Shatner" "Only before 9AM"
LOL - You've stolen the answers to the wrong quiz again, haven't you? :0)
Is that wrong?
--George Constanza
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Master_Kenobi17 Takin Over For Talon
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date Posted: Oct 18, 2005 6:51 PM
How do good and innocent people become evil?
They become defense attorneys.
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Oct 18, 2005 7:04 PM
They become defense attorneys.
I'll forward that answer to one of my friends, who is, sadly, a defense attorney :0) Hey - someone's gotta do it.
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Master_Kenobi17 Takin Over For Talon
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date Posted: Oct 18, 2005 7:14 PM
I'll forward that answer to one of my friends, who is, sadly, a defense attorney :0)
He's probably heard it all before, then.
Hey - someone's gotta do it.
I pity da foo who becomes a defense attorney.
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Diviner525 In the Flesh
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date Posted: Oct 18, 2005 7:27 PM
Hey Dark Moose. I believe the commentary posed by you and Ryan Kaufman was in Karen Traviss' blog. Well wherever, I remember reading those comments when you guys were laying them down. Very thoughtful stuff.
In fact, I know that yours and Ryan's thoughts had a heavy influence on my blog entry entitled "Casualties".
Myself, I really do enjoy being simple and the superficial (it's a fun life), but for all your claims that meese chew on soda cans and such, I can recognize that you've got some real writing talent. Keep up the good work brother.
D525.
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Oct 18, 2005 7:44 PM
Hey Dark Moose. I believe the commentary posed by you and Ryan Kaufman was in Karen Traviss' blog.
true - I was just highlighting his blog and who he is, not linking to that entry.
I can recognize that you've got some real writing talent. Keep up the good work brother.
Thank you! very much :0) glad you like.
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Oct 18, 2005 7:46 PM
I also add I hope Ryan doesn't mind me re-printing some of his thoughts here, but I just found those questions interesting.
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Diviner525 In the Flesh
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date Posted: Oct 18, 2005 7:55 PM
By the way if anyone points out that I wrote any of that stuff, I will claim that I was drunk.
D525.
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Oct 18, 2005 8:05 PM
This is exactly my method of choice when it comes to denial :0) "Who - me? How many beers had I had?"
By the way, I was just reading your "Casualties" - interesting stuff, and I think that question about "what would I do?" is very astute in that this is exactly what GL would have you ask.
Likewise well-written stuff. I can't remember how many beers I've had tonight, sorry :0)
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Diviner525 In the Flesh
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date Posted: Oct 18, 2005 8:15 PM
LOL. I've only had three (Coors Light as always), so I will remember everything up to this point. Anyway, I always enjoy reading your blogs man.
D525.
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Tresk Im'nel Beyond the Outer Rim
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date Posted: Oct 18, 2005 8:21 PM
Excellent blog, DM.  I have to admit some of these are questions I've thought of myself, others I wish I had...  I actually remember noting in Karen's blog that Ryan's comment on unelected elites was interesting because I had just be discussing with a friend that the Old Republic's claim to being a "democracy" was rather shaky within the past few weeks before this came up here. I'm actually planning to spin off blog entries on some of these issues.
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Tresk Im'nel Beyond the Outer Rim
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date Posted: Oct 18, 2005 8:21 PM
I'd also say that two questions that arise in the same vein as that are:
Is democracy really practical for civilisation on the scale of the GFFA? And is it practical to hold different species whose biology may affect their political thought (ie Killik hive minds) to the same standard of "democracy?"
--TI
Which also raises the question:
Is a galaxywide government really desirable at all?
--TI
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Oct 18, 2005 11:41 PM
And is it practical to hold different species whose biology may affect their political thought (ie Killik hive minds) to the same standard of "democracy?"
A prime example of "Earthropomorphism" :0)
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Oct 19, 2005 11:15 AM
And actually, the more I think about your question, it boils down to this - is democracy right for every way of thinking, in every culture?
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Master_Kenobi17 Takin Over For Talon
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date Posted: Oct 19, 2005 11:21 AM
And actually, the more I think about your question, it boils down to this - is democracy right for every way of thinking, in every culture?
Then think about this- What's the alternative? Is it better?
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jedilaurie2 Jedi Laurie
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date Posted: Oct 19, 2005 9:58 PM
These are all very good questions. I, myself, had wondered some of the very same things.
I agree with you and Master_Kenobi17. Is democracy really about having a choice? It seems to be more about allowing people to believe they have a choice.
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DarthWaderX How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Imperial Superweapons.
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date Posted: Oct 20, 2005 7:12 AM
Excellent post DM. Equally good questions.
What is the value of mentors, and should we question their own moral quality, or can we learn from their teachings alone?
and
Is morality merely a point of view?
If we question the moral quality of our mentors, or the validity of morality itself, what standards do we use to govern our own behavior aside from our mentor's teachings? Do objective/absolute truths exist, or is everything merely subjective?
How do good and innocent people become evil?
How do we define innocence? A lack of knowledge concerning the reality of evil, or the ability to resist its temptations?
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Oct 20, 2005 9:48 AM
Do objective/absolute truths exist, or is everything merely subjective?
Funny how questions beget more questions :0)
How do we define innocence? A lack of knowledge concerning the reality of evil, or the ability to resist its temptations?
An excellent question - in Anakin's case, his innocence left him vulnerable to fall into evil behavior on the basis of good intention. The downside of innocence could be naiveté.
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DarthWaderX How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Imperial Superweapons.
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date Posted: Oct 20, 2005 10:38 AM
in Anakin's case, his innocence left him vulnerable to fall into evil behavior on the basis of good intention.
What's the old saying, the road to (h-e-double hockeysticks) is paved with good intentions?
The downside of innocence could be naiveté.
Agreed. Anakin's naiveté, coupled with his own insecurities, made him extremely susceptible to the temptations of evil. For all of his bravado and apparent arrogance, he was in fact frightened by the idea that he remained incapable of protecting those he cared most about. When Anakin yielded to Sidious, the evil he opened himself to at that moment warped his good intentions, twisting their focus into something altogether different (protection versus possession).
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Oct 20, 2005 11:45 AM
(protection versus possession).
At the heart of the duality of fear.
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jedimasterbr JEDI MASTER
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date Posted: Oct 21, 2005 4:40 AM
O idiota...
Eu espero que vocÊ entenda português.
Eu paguei por esta bosta sua anta. Eu posto que eu quiser.
Vai t esconder no mato pra ver c urubú t piníca gringo mané! (traduz isso auhauhauha)
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Oct 21, 2005 6:55 AM
Right. I think I know enough Portuguese to figure that one out, so thanks, I did translate that. If you're upset I blocked a couple of your entries for being spam, then take it to Blog Feedback, not my blog. Of course, you might want to go there anyway since you just flamed someone. Namely me.
Your account is locked. It doesn't matter if you paid for it or not, if you break the rules, you get locked.
Thanks
DM out
PS-..now...where were we? Oh yeah - naiveté. :0)
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DarthWaderX How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Imperial Superweapons.
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date Posted: Oct 21, 2005 8:00 AM
Now that I think about it, I'm beginning to see some similarities in the experiences of Anakin and the Jango clones in the GAR. Both trace their origins to "unnatural" births, experienced very demanding childhoods, suffered from a certain degree of naiveté, turned on the jedi, and ultimately gave their loyalty to the Emperor (granted for very different reasons). I'm sure there is fodder for some decent Nature versus Nurture discussions in there.
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Oct 21, 2005 2:14 PM
The more I know, the more I know that I know nothing.
Ain't it the truth! :0) 36 years old and getting stupider, myself.
I'm sure there is fodder for some decent Nature versus Nurture discussions in there.
This has been another scientifc/philosophical debate enriched by the Clone story.
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Darth Sean75 Questions to Ponder
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date Posted: Oct 24, 2005 4:20 AM
As Led Zepplin would say: It's never too late to change the road your on.
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Darth Sean75 Questions to Ponder
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date Posted: Oct 24, 2005 4:21 AM
Is it ever too late to change?
--DM
As Led Zepplin would say: It's never too late to change the road your on.
*Sorry forgot to type what I was resonding to.
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Oct 25, 2005 4:49 AM
*Sorry forgot to type what I was resonding to.
That's ok, because it's never too late to change. :0)
As Journey would say: The wheel in the sky keeps on turnin'.
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Gobi Wan Kenobi6 The ability to speak does not make you intelligent.
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date Posted: Nov 07, 2005 10:36 AM
Is it ever too late to change?
--DM
You can always change.
Can fear for your loved ones become a quest for control?
--DM
I now have to say yes. Look at Anakin and Padme.
Does one person truly have the ability to change everything?
--DM
I believe so.
Is it your responsibility to help change everything for the better if you could?
--DM
Yes.
Is compassion ever more powerful than anger?
--DM
That is a question I hate to answer.
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