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 | Moose Poodoodate posted: Aug 24, 2006 12:54 PM | updated: Aug 24, 2006 3:54 PM |

 | A Chosen One for Every Generation, or Every Generation, A Chosen One? |
 Anakin Skywalker's destiny, the rise, fall, and redemption of the Chosen One to restore Balance to the Force, would seem to put a period on the end of a winding sentence some 25 millennia long. George Lucas explains some of his intent for the role of the Prophecy and the Chosen One in this quote, which I'll borrow from my entry from last year: Balance - The Force, Fact, Fiction and Fate...
And then we will get to the 3rd film where he is seduced to the Dark Side..
Which brings us up to the films 4, 5, and 6, in which Anakin's offspring redeem him and allow him to fulfill the prophecy where he brings Balance to the Force by doing away with the Sith and getting rid of evil in the universe..."
Whoah. I'm not one to question the George often, it's his shebang. But the last part of that very wonderful synopsis of the arc of the Chosen One has always made be cringe a little bit: "Getting Rid of Evil in the Universe."
Frankly, I think it's a bit of hyperbole employed by our dear Papanoida. With the same wide-eyed innocence we approach the world as children, he tacks on that campy sort of sitcom logic that "once the story is resolved in 90 minutes, its all taken care of. It's perfect from there on out." I don't think for a second he actually believes that. But the point is, we believe it - or have been capable of believing it in our younger years. We believed that when the bad guys are done away with, people really do live happily ever after. And there's nothing wrong with maintaining that sort of dual understanding as we get older - there's the part of us that knows how things should be, there's the part of us that know how things really are. What Star Wars has always been able to accomplish, in fact part of what makes it such a lasting attraction, is that it allows us to reach back into that idealism that says "Yes, this is how things really ought to be. Good triumphs, Evil is Destroyed. Happily ever after."
So when you read that "Getting Rid of Evil in the Universe", it's ok to picture Buck Rogers or Superman or Davy Crocket standing on that windy hilltop, panning the distant horizon, hand pressed to brow to shield their ever watchful eyes, chest puffed out in that classic heroic living statue pose. We're supposed to believe, for a second, that it's possible to vanquish evil.
Why? It's like that mathematic conundrum about the pursuit of a whole number, the pursuit of perfection. They say that between One and Zero, there are an infinite number of fractional expressions, an infinite number of points. Theoretically, therefore, you should be able to start on a journey from Zero to One, or vice versa, and never ever arrive. If you have to pass through an infinite number of points, that is.
Thankfully we don't live in that theoretical landscape, and we zip back and forth instantaneously between One and Zero all the time. It's one of those things that allows you to read what I'm saying right now, on your computer screen. But for all our power, all our ability to transcend the theoretical world in favor of practical application, we're still hampered by our reality. We still can't get to Zero in the real world. We still can't reach perfection, not in our own lives or our relationships with our world or the people around us. And without that level of ability and achievement, phrases like "Getting Rid of Evil in the Universe" have no practical meaning.
But that doesn't mean we stop trying. Contrary to Yoda's advice, I'll say this: it's not the doing, it's the trying, that's the important part of that journey. Try or Try not. There is no Do. But what if there was?
This brings me to the question that keeps cropping up about the EU - "Why, if the Chosen One restored Balance to the Force, does Evil keep returning? When are they ever going to live happily ever after? Doesn't that make Anakin's story a waste of time?"
I'll be the first to say I have purist leanings when it comes to this. Armed with the central arc of the movies, with the clear intent of the architect, I believe Anakin restored Balance to the Force, and evil no longer held sway. However...that doesn't mean Darkness had been abolished. It means Evil was subjugated in favor of Good.
What does that mean? To understand that, you have to look at the nature of Evil in the first place. Evil is a willful decision to be malevolent. It's not an instinct. It's not the product of synapses or hormonal flux. It's the product of a decision. Certainly history is full of examples of people willing to delude themselves that they were not truly being Evil. But their intentions, and their actions, were oozing with the stuff of Evil, and their decisions are what made the Evil a reality.
I've often said no one we regard universally as Evil woke up every morning and said "I'm going to do more Evil today. I'm going to be more Evil than ever before. That's what I am, that's what I do - I'm Evil." No, those people, reviled as they are, woke up and perpetrated horrible acts every day because they had made a decision to give themselves over to a New Morality. And in that New Morality, some things just had to be done for the greater good. Some things had to be sacrificed, and some decisions had to be made that would hurt, or kill, the World around them. Stalin, Hitler, Milosevic, Hussein, Hirohito....they all had a faced a moment of decision to do harm, even if they did not believe it was Evil. History judges them as Evil, because what they thought of themselves is largely irrelevant. It's what they intended, and what they achieved, that was Evil. The series of rationalizations and decisions that brought a one-time honorable senator to hear the words "Et Tu, Brute" from his victim, to be able to justify the blood on his hands, to be able to give reasons to use Darkness - that's Evil.
Darkness, however, is different. The Dark Side, though named aptly by George Lucas, is not a Lucas concept. It's as old as Air. We all have a "Dark Side". Every living thing that strives to live in harmony with its environment, but likewise can defend itself and its kind from its environment, possesses the Dark Side. Darkness is part of the molecular make-up of a living existence, self-aware or not. Aggression, Fear, Anger, Hatred, Deceit, Mistrust, Domination...these things are as natural as the simplest synaptic urges in a frog's mind.
Take for instance...oh...I dunno...A Moose. A moose in the wild is a beautiful thing. It lives a peaceful life in harmony with the nature around it. It cares for its young, it never takes more than it needs, it has no greed, no bloodlust, no deviant or sadistic desires. And yet, a moose is a terribly dangerous and unpredictable animal. It is ruled by its passions, its Fight or Flight notions, and does not respond to reason very well. A mother moose will protect its young if you should so much as stray into a wide perimeter of its territory. A bull moose will chase you down and trample you with an intent to kill if you look at it sideways. Are these creatures evil? No, they are subject, however, to the dual nature of all impulses - Fear for your loved ones can be born of loving care, but can result in murderous rage. Aggression can used to defend your territory, but it can be used to attack far outside of it. Anger can be Righteous, but when does it become Consuming? Hatred and Mistrust of your enemies is often prudent, but it can be twisted into a weapon. Deceit can hide and protect the things you hold dear, but it can likewise be used to sow paranoia and chaos. Domination is needed in Nature to establish your Domain, but what happens when your Domain is no longer big enough for your desires?
Aggression, Fear, Anger, Hatred, Deceit, Mistrust, Domination...these are all the tenets of the Dark Side, the very same things Yoda warned Luke to avoid as the path to irrevocable decisions. Forever will they dominate our desinty if we give ourselves fully to them. They are part of the true nature of every living thing, perhaps more so for the vast majority, and as much part of Humanity as Love, Compassion, Altruism, Reason, Peacefulness, Humility, Honesty and all the tenets of Harmony we embrace. What are these, then? The Dark Side and the Light Side? Evil, and Good?
No, these are just "The Way Things Are". There is Dark and Light in each of us, just as they are in the Star Wars universe. And what those components represent are not Good and Evil themselves, but the tools of Good and Evil. And you will find that some of them are even interchangeable. You can use Deceit for Good. You can use Reason for Evil.
We understand that the Force is comprised of seemingly equal portions of Dark and Light - that the Force is, in fact, a merged amalgam of all those ideas. The Jedi chose to focus on those aspects that promote harmony, both with the Force, and all things living within the Force. They ignored the full range of the Force, specifically the Dark Side, becaue they believed that human nature could not be trusted to be responsible with the Dark Side - the overwhelming preponderance of evidence can't be ignored. For those reasons they chose Harmony over Utility, Passivity over Power - the Jedi flowed with the Force. That may have been their undoing, however, as the Force turned to Darkness under the manipulations of the Sith. The Sith, on the other hand, used the Dark Side of the Force, the natural manifestations of Aggression, Fear, Anger, Hatred, Deceit, Mistrust, Domination, etc, to control others, to control their destiny, as a weapon against enemies, as a tool to obtain Power. They bent the Force to flow as they willed it. Their trust in their ability to maintain that control proved likewise to have been their undoing. Point is, no one gets over on the Force. There is no getting on the Force's "good side", and control, or even coming to an understanding, is an illusion.
The Force continues as it pleases, owing nothing to the Jedi who serve it, and fearing nothing from the Sith who channel it. Like so many vast and incomprehensible entities in our own religions and mythologies, it just Is. Always Was. And Continues to Be. It cares nothing for the ideas of Evil or Good, of the human notions of morality. It cares enough to maintain its own Balance, its own endless volition to be in harmony with all of creation.
Which is why I maintain, when people theorize that "Balance of the Force" had to do with how many Jedi or Sith were around at any one time, that they are missing the meaning of the word "Balance" here. Balance does not mean an adversarial equalization of opposing forces. Balance here means "Harmony", "Equilibrium", as in "a Balanced Natural Ecosystem". It could be in total natural chaos, as nature often appears to be, but its harmonious, it's natural, it's independent of human inventions like "Fairness" and "Justice". Again, it just Is.
So back to the EU and its apparent heretical intentions to Undo Balance. I see nothing of the sort. I do occasionally lament the idea that this poor, worn-out galactic civilization appears to have the very worst Cosmic Luck in the space-time continuum. But is that so foreign to us? Did the rain stop falling on picnics after World War II was over? Was disease conquered with the rise of modern medicine? Life goes on, good and bad, and Evil alike. It does not mean the Dark Side will ever leave us. This living existence, for all living things, will always have a full menu of experiences. Fear, Contentment, Anger, Solace, Hatred, Love...it's all mixed together. How those are used, however, that's the important decision. That's the difference between Evil and Good.
We see of late, for instance, Jacen Solo, one-time Jedi inexorably doomed to make many of his grandfather's mistakes. He constantly rationalizes; he questions himself, but has all the answers. He fears his ambitions, so he tells himself he has none. He fears looking arrogant, so he does all he can to hide it from himself and others. And he makes conscious decisions to forgo the common framework for a New Morality, one that will restore Order and Peace to the galaxy, even if this New Morality allows for harming or killing others. The vernacular we have for this has a built-in reference: "Necessary Evils". The Necessary Evils have been perpetrated on humanity for the Common Good are exactly the Evils we question now as "necessary." Intentions are never valued in history, only the results. Intentions can only serve to show how far someone was willing to go to delude themselves to make the decision to be Evil, and to use those same tenets that Yoda warns of - Anger, Hatred, Fear...they coat the slippery slope of our own rationalizing minds.
Now, does this return of Evil mean his own Grandfather's redemption was meaningless? And what of the evil of the Vong? What did Anakin's story mean, then? What was the end result of Balance, if it did not, in fact, "Get Rid of Evil in the Universe"? And if Evil returns, then, for every generation, does every generation need a Chosen One?
Here's my thoughts. It would be easy to take the George's statement at face value - that restoring Balance destroyed Evil, and every day thereafter was sunny and bright, there was no malice, no disease, no war.... And I don't think for a second even George Lucas thinks that's possible. I think he wants to make a place where we believe it could be possible. But even that place, that fictional universe with impossible traits, full of people with amazing and fantastic powers and abilities, mimics our reality. And what that means is, somewhere, in the wood, even Space Meese get angry. Even Space Meese fear, and hate, and use aggression. The Dark Side continues -it can not be extracted from the fabric of existence. The universe is full of beings that must destroy others to survive. Evil, however....Evil is a decision to use those Dark Side powers for our own twisted ideas of advancement - the New Morality that employs "necessary evils" to achieve goals that are far from harmonious. And awareness of that Evil is a deterrent.
Just like we are now more aware of Evil than ever before, in the wake of our Hitlers, Stalins, Milosevic's, Husseins... we may also be just as inclined to make the same tired mistakes again, for the "common good." That does not mean Evil has the ear of open minds as it once did. And I believe it's the same for the GFFA. They've had their powerful reminders of the Evil that lurks in the hearts of ambitious beings. They remember all too well the Darkness of Vader, of Palpatine, of the New Order, of the Vong.
Notice, then, that since the Chosen One restored Balance to the Force, Evil does not hold sway as it once did. Once, Darth Sidious built an Empire on Evil. But it didn't stand. The Force fell no further into Darkness than its brief journey, and when Anakin's time came, it was righted again. Notice, also, that even since then, even as the Galaxy faced some of its most desperate hours long after the demise of Palpatine, Evil does not triumph. It might dominate for a time, but it's always beaten back.
Such is the nature of the GFFA, and hopefully our own real world - knowing Evil, we are able to defeat it. Not for all time, but every time. The heroes of our past have restored our own sense of Balance, our own harmonies. It is in this way, I think, that George Lucas was right, and his vision stands. The Chosen One did defeat the Power of Evil. Though Darkness will always lurk in everyone's heart, Evil will never again stand, it will no longer become the way of life for trillions as it did under the influence of the Sith. And that's the difference. What made it incumbent upon the Chosen One, and the Force itself, to restore Balance was the idea that the very fabric of living existence was being turned to Evil. Evil was no longer an external force, it was becoming the stuff of life itself. But not so after the Force itself was returned to its natural, harmonious state in which Darkness and Light coexist without the Sith's artificial leveraging of one over the other to achieve their goals. Because again, that's what Evil is - the decision to leverage the Darkness against the world. Anakin not only removed that influence, he brought it into the open, he revealed what powers defeat Evil from within- Compassion, Love, Honesty...these too exist in equal portions to the Darkness. These too will always be there to right the deepest wrongs.
In that way, I still believe The Chosen One achieved Balance for every generation. And every generation thereafter needs no other Chosen One. They only need to recognize Darkness for the threat that it is, and turn back the tide. The Force remains balanced, and Evil remains vanquished, though the Dark Side lives on. Where Evil once reigned, it languishes in termporary bids for domination, forever doomed to its own ephemeral nature, always presided upon to return to the ranks of the Balanced aspects of the Force.
And though the beings within the Force may not live happily ever after, who does? The point is, they live on, with an eye toward a more perfect harmony, and disdain for past evils. It's the Trying that maintains that Balance, if not always the Doing.
DM out
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 2:02 PM
Not really. As far as Gahmah believes, when one Chosen One dies, another takes his/her place (example: Luke takes Anakin's place after his death)
I rather think that when the Chosen One dies, they all take his place, and continue to maintain the Balance he restored.. I think that's why he's the Chosen One, instead of the Chosen Many.
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gahmah80 Gahmah's Lair of Trauma (Blog Closed Due to Inability to Renew Hyperspace Account)
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 2:24 PM
I rather think that when the Chosen One dies, they all take his place, and continue to maintain the Balance he restored.. I think that's why he's the Chosen One, instead of the Chosen Many.
Okay, but what do they do when some large, colassal object is flying right above their city, casting a large shadow over it?
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DARKPHOENIX927
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 2:35 PM
GREAT BLOG, But for some reason the only chosen one is the skywalker or related family members,even the grandchildren have a dark side,its kind of a fight for the thrown who would have title of CHOSEN ONE.
MAY THE FORCE BE WITH AMERICA AND DEATTH TO ITS COMMUNIST
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EvilDarthBear The Grand Admiral's Club
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 2:55 PM
A very thoughtful blog
I recall, that when I first read a EU book, I thought "wait a sec! I thought evil was banished!" Why are they having to fight all over again? At first, I was really confused, I mean, doesn't the EU make the movies some kind of hollow sidetrip?
cont....
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EvilDarthBear The Grand Admiral's Club
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 2:55 PM
cont...
>They only need to recognize Darkness for the threat that it is, and turn back the tide. The Force remains balanced, and Evil remains vanquished, though the Dark Side lives on.
Excellent thought! I would view it like Christianity, your old nature has been defeated, but you still battle it, and though it cannot take over again, you still fight it. Why? Because fighting it, stops it from becoming premier again. Kind of like "the chicken and the egg, what came first?"  I think that the Force is like that.
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gold5 I lost Tiree, lost Dutch!..or How I learned to stop worrying and love the Death Star.
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 2:59 PM
Great one DM! I think this is the best blog you've done in a while. Philosophical stuff! my absolute favorite. Took me a while to finish but worth it. So much to take in. It's hard to pick something to comment on. It all goes into the Yin and Yang concept of the universe and also the I am concept of God. Good and bad is a 3 dimensional construct to explain the unexplainable. Something that just is what it is. A harmonious balance of all. Anyway good stuff!
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 3:40 PM
Okay, but what do they do when some large, colassal object is flying right above their city, casting a large shadow over it?
That sounds like a job for Superman :0)
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Shadow_JediX
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 3:58 PM
A good point, and extremly well thought through.
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Oboe-Wan Oboe-Wan's Hive of Scum & Villainy
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 5:05 PM
It's like that mathematic conundrum about the pursuit of a whole number
wipes grey matter off of computer screen & places band-aid over the hole in her forehead where her brain exploded through....
And yet, a moose is a terribly dangerous and unpredictable animal. It is ruled by its passions
this was a great analogy, great paragraph. As a mother, I can identify with that fight or flight when it comes to my own offspring. My good intent is to protect, but sometimes in protecting my son I can harm (more emotionally, let's face it) those that I see as a threat.
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Oboe-Wan Oboe-Wan's Hive of Scum & Villainy
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 5:05 PM
Intentions are never valued in history, only the results. Your point is well made here! We can all, in many ways, identify with intentions we had that were forgotten long after the results sucked and were recorded....
This was an amazing blog, as said above, probably one of your best. Unlike me, you put more than 5 minutes of thought into your blogs. 
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jkthunder Seven Pieces
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 5:15 PM
* skips over math stuff *
As far as Lucas' thoughts on ridding the universe of evil goes.. it's a simple, linear, naive and non-assuming way to take in the story (of the films) - one which only concerns the way things are now - in the moment... which is actually a pretty sophisticated way to think about it too.
The films end at a moment of stasis. Good 'nuff, since if theres no battle between good and evil at the moment, then it's a good jumping off point.
I agree - it's only human to try and define balance as equal parts, but it really is immeasurable chaos that can't be measured or weighed. It's intuitive and fleeting.
I'll havta read this over a few more times laterz!
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DARKPHOENIX927
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 5:52 PM
[ ]That sounds like a job for Superman :0)
noooo its time for shazam!
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Jedi Arwen Skywalker
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 6:08 PM
I'm with Oboe-wan, my brain just exploded too.
I really enjoyed reading this blog, very deep. I'll have to reread it when I'm not so tired.
Thanks.
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mandalore65 Mandalorian Pride
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 6:11 PM
Sorry, I meant to put this on my last comment.
You were listing conquerors Hitler,Mussolini I noted Hirohito on the list.
I thought that Tojo forced him to go along with the plan?
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 6:29 PM
You were listing conquerors Hitler,Mussolini I noted Hirohito on the list.
I thought that Tojo forced him to go along with the plan?
You know, that's entirely possible, but he would still be as culpable for perpetuating that same rationalization General Tojo had in mind - conquest. As they say "All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing." And somehow, I'm not sure one could even say Hirohito was exactly good, just part of a larger matrix of evil men allowing themselves the opportunity to do more evil. The analogy could be drawn to Vader - that he was forced in his own way. But was he truly forced, or did he just find his own reasons? Dunno.
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 6:30 PM
But, if I missed that historical point, I do stand corrected and thanks for the heads up.
I may need to brush up on my Imperial Japanese history a bit, either way :0)
And sorry for making everyone's head explode. I hate that when that happens :0)
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mandalore65 Mandalorian Pride
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 6:44 PM
You know, that's entirely possible, but he would still be as culpable for perpetuating that same rationalization General Tojo had in mind - conquest. As they say "All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing." And somehow, I'm not sure one could even say Hirohito was exactly good, just part of a larger matrix of evil men allowing themselves the opportunity to do more evil. The analogy could be drawn to Vader - that he was forced in his own way. But was he truly forced, or did he just find his own reasons? Dunno.
I didn't say he was good, just grey- as fans have come to say.
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anakinside1 Echoes from the Asteroid Field
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 7:15 PM
Mr. Moose that was outstanding!
Random thoughts:
(with the aid of J. Campbell) "The happy ending is justly scorned as a misrepresentation; for the world as we know it....yields but one ending: death, disintegration, dismemberment...(But) in the ancient world (divine comedies of redemption) were regarded as of a higher rank than tragedy, of a deeper truth, of a more difficult realization...and of a revelation more complete. The happy ending of the divine comedy of the soul is not to be read as a contradicition, but as a transcendence of the universal tragedy of man."
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msritajean
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 7:16 PM
.... huh? oh, i fell asleep half-way thru ....
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anakinside1 Echoes from the Asteroid Field
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 7:17 PM
I think modern society conditions us to believe the happy ending is naive, when really it's the only ending that matters. It is hard won, imperfect, impermanent, but possible. I have trouble watching things that end tragically now - not because it leaves me feeling sad, but because it feels like it's only half of the story.
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 8:02 PM
The happy ending of the divine comedy of the soul is not to be read as a contradicition, but as a transcendence of the universal tragedy of man."
Truth. What would be the point of telling a story of strife if it always ends in futility? For that, we can just live and die and hear no stories told.
Imagination is key to transcendence, folly though it may be. To try is to dream, and to believe. Doing is the result of believing.
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Aug 24, 2006 8:03 PM
Which brings us back to Yoda's admonition: "Do or Do not, there is no try", another way of saying "Believe it can be done, and it will be."
Faced with impossible made possible, Luke still says "I don't believe it." To which Yoda can only say "That is why you fail."
In other words, don't just dream, believe. Equate Doing and Trying. We transcend via our imagination.
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rj_peters Memos from the Imperial Finance Department
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date Posted: Aug 25, 2006 7:01 AM
Good stuff, DM.
Personally, I think this all comes down to the tension between - 1) GL making a series of old-fashioned heroic films that are meant to stand on their own as somewhat 'children' adventures; and 2) the offshoot of these movies which has turned into a robust, adult universe which is constantly evolving. The movies need to have a happy ending. The EU theoretically will never end.
The movies and the EU will always have this tension, which is actually just another cool part of the whole Star Wars experience. It leads to cool discussions and thoughts such as these.
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padmeskywalker77 Padme's Legacy
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date Posted: Aug 25, 2006 9:38 AM
Wow, DM...this was great!! I noticed it last night (ok, really early this morning where I am), and wanted to wait until I woke up today to read it. I am glad I did...I definitely would not have gotten as much out of it earlier as I did now.
The point is, they live on, with an eye toward a more perfect harmony, and disdain for past evils
Wonderfully stated, and so true. No matter what happened in the past, we all must learn to move forward, to learn from those mistakes, those past evils.
I really do not have anything else to add...you did an excellent job of expressing this.
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Aug 25, 2006 11:21 AM
Excellent thought! I would view it like Christianity, your old nature has been defeated, but you still battle it, and though it cannot take over again, you still fight it.
It's hard to talk about the underlying philosophies in SW without eliciting religious imagery of some sort - although people have perspectives on that. Redemption and salvation themes can't be ignored, definitely.
The movies and the EU will always have this tension, which is actually just another cool part of the whole Star Wars experience.
I agree - the movies were made never having considered the continuing story.
Wonderfully stated, and so true.
Thanks ;0)
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MissPadme Miss Padme's Naboo Love Nest
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date Posted: Aug 25, 2006 8:48 PM
That's a different take I've seen on the whole post-ROTJ EU continuity and whether the Legacy of the Force series or the Legacy comics muck up everything that was accomplished in the films. I tend to take that view, but you have a lot of excellent points.
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zach starwalker
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date Posted: Sep 01, 2006 8:06 PM
this was another one of your blogs where in the beginning your supposed to think dont mess with gl then you get to the middle and think thats so sad but true and the end makes it all better. that was actually a pretty good one of those kinds of blogs. for some reason i still like them though.
i beleive that eveil can never be destroyed even if the universe exploded righ now life would start again somewhere and there woulod still be feeling and light and dark sides and such so. i agree what you say in this.
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TheSithEmpire
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date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 12:02 AM
The Force continues as it pleases, owing nothing to the Jedi who serve it, and fearing nothing from the Sith who channel it. Like so many vast and incomprehensible entities in our own religions and mythologies, it just Is. Always Was. And Continues to Be. It cares nothing for the ideas of Evil or Good, of the human notions of morality. It cares enough to maintain its own Balance, its own endless volition to be in harmony with all of creation.
And yet Qui-Gon speaks of the Will of the Force bringing about Anakin's creation (and regardless of whether or not Sidious or Plaguis had a hand in that, they may unwittingly have been serving the ends of the Will of the Force).
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TheSithEmpire
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date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 12:03 AM
So while "the Force" itself is created by life (as Yoda indicates on Dagobah), Qui-Gon reveals that the "Will of the Force" brings about life (both in having the Chosen One brought about and possibly all of life itself) and direct one's steps ("Finding Anakin was the Will of the Force, of that I am certain.")
That adds an element of Providence to the Star Wars Universe, which might actually help explain a lot of narrative elements that might be perceived as coincidences, as well introducing as a deeper religious element.
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TheSithEmpire
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date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 12:04 AM
If Qui-Gon is correct -- and I believe he is (he's arguably the wisest of all the Jedi as Yoda's forced to acknowledge in the ROTS novelization) -- then there is an external source, a "Will" that does care about Good and Evil and even aids those who follow its leanings. This better explains why the Jedi can access the key to eternal life through compassion and love (which Qui-Gon notes after his death is the "answer to the darkness"), whereas the Sith can never achieve that. The Force (or more accurately the 'Will of the Force') designed it that way.
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TheSithEmpire
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date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 12:04 AM
The reward of living forever goes to those who remain in the light, give of themselves and practice love, whereas the self-centered followers of the darkness inherit exactly that -- darkness, void, eternal nothingness.
Now in the EU, certain Sith Lords did manage to preserve their minds (or lifeforce) in statues and edifices, but all they had really done is imprison themselves in madness and suffering, powerless, chained to ancient stone and rendered utterly ineffectual. Of the two that managed to escape their bonds (Freedon Nadd and Exar Kun) both ended up utterly destroyed.
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TheSithEmpire
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date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 12:04 AM
Palpatine temporarily cheats death as well, via his clones. But he's severely diminished in power and mind from the Palpatine of before, and the bodies he inhabits decay as rapidly as his sanity. And in the end, he dies ignominously by a blaster bolt from a former smuggler!
So "is the dark side stronger?" We can see from the many examples that the answer is a resounding "No!" But with the revelations of the Prequel trilogy we can also see why.
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 12:23 AM
I fully support the idea of the "Will of the Force", but the real question that lies therein, then, is what does the Force have a will to do? Or to be?
Thus the idea of Balance, and thus Anakin's creation. I guess my main point is that the human definition of morality is not embraced by the Force - rather the human definition of morality is a rudimentary representation of the creative and destructive aspects within the Force, which becomes translated, through much subjective distortion, into Good and Evil, which are likewise results of those same aspects put into practical application.
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The Dark Moose Moose Poodoo
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date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 12:23 AM
I do agree that the Sith, by nature, can not achieve what the Jedi could, but I am not sure it would be viewed by the Force as a reward, more a natural byproduct of being more attuned to the Force. But I think that is what you are saying as well...
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