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The Alternatives to Fighting
date posted: Apr 17, 2006 7:14 PM
The Eternal Struggle
I've got a bad feeling about this. That's a good way to start this one. I must be crazy starting what will undoubtedly become a heated argument about how much better Star Wars is than Star Trek, but tough topics are my forte.

I am of the opinion that all the fighting between Trekkies (or Trekkers, I never learned the difference) and "Warsies" is really rather foolish. The fanbases are notorious for hating each other, and why? Because the titles are similar enough to confuse the uninitiated? Because they are two space sagas that entered the public consciousness at (roughly) the same time? Probably the most logical answer is both are extremely good franchises that have very supportive fans who are determined to uphold the honor of their chosen "side".

But in all honesty, there is really no reason for such antimosity. I am living proof that you can like both Star Wars and Star Trek. Granted, I wouldn't describe myself as a Trekkie, but I love the franchise, for most of the same reasons I love Star Wars: It's a fantasic space-based universe where good triumphs over evil (eventually), our heroes live by strict moral codes, and there's just plain good writing and compelling storytelling.

While Trek definitely has the advantage in pure bulk of content (over 700 hours of television alone!), a lot of it is pretty rehashed at this point. Also the Star Trek EU (yes, it exists) isn't as expansive as that of Star Wars, which spans thousands of years and thousands of characters. I consider Star Trek to be more pure sci-fi, while Star Wars has that added level of mystery and religion with the Force, with elements of fantasy spicing it up.

I guess the point I'm trying to make here is that it just seems a little odd that there should be so much sparring between the two fan groups. I mean, do we spend a great deal of time putting down fans of Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate, or Firefly?

Another important thing to remember is that the only reason Star Trek exists as we know it is because of the popularity of Star Wars. Yes, I am aware that Star Trek is in fact older, but by the time A New Hope hit theatres Trek was on it's way to becoming just another forgotten (and failed) television series. When Star Wars surprised the entertainment world, Paramount (the owners of Star Trek) hurridly dug through their licenses looking for a space adventure to match Fox's success. They chose Star Trek, and made a motion picture, putting the franchise on the path to future films and television series. This year, Star Trek celebrates it's 40th anniversary, and while I wouldn't say the franchise is exactly booming right now, with longevity like that, they must have done something right.

  Son of a Bith
The Cantina Corner
date Posted: Apr 17, 2006 7:43 PM
and theres just plain good writing...

Uh huh, yea...

Kirk: "KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!"

Vader: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"

sorry, couldn't help it!:p
  macewindu882
Don't Go All Chewie On Me!
date Posted: Apr 17, 2006 7:53 PM
Uh huh, yea...

Kirk: "KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!"

Vader: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"

sorry, couldn't help it!


Hehe..
  obiwan122586
The Alternatives to Fighting
date Posted: Apr 17, 2006 8:01 PM
Okay, MOSTLY good writing. :p
  Rive Caedo
Rive's Uncharted Settlements
date Posted: Apr 17, 2006 8:02 PM
I mean, do we spend a great deal of time putting down fans of Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate, or Firefly?

Blast those Browncoats to the Nine Corellian Hells! Er... Wait.

Where'd I put my viper anyway?
  macewindu882
Don't Go All Chewie On Me!
date Posted: Apr 17, 2006 8:05 PM
Blast those Browncoats to the Nine Corellian Hells! Er... Wait.

Where'd I put my viper anyway?
:^O
  JediMasterPickles
Slowly Turning To The Dark Side!
date Posted: Apr 17, 2006 8:47 PM
I like ALL of the shows that you mentioned but I have refused to get as invested in the others as I am with Star Wars because I don't have the time or the money!

Star Wars and Red Dwarf for me, the others are just occasional viewing.
  Berzz
Khattazz al'Yun
date Posted: Apr 17, 2006 9:35 PM
I've never been a huge fan of Star Trek as I am of Star Wars. I used to watch Trek back in the days, but I gradually began losing interest on the subject, it began to confuse me and I could never keep up with the show. Then I began to gain interest on Star Wars' EU and since then, I've been a die-hard Star Wars fan.
jkthunder
Seven Pieces
date Posted: Apr 17, 2006 9:38 PM
The whole Trek vs Wars is a modern myth. Someone, somewhere thought it would be funny to see a bunch of geeks oppose each other, and joked about it. If anything, there are some fans that may take a stance on either side that take thier hobby way too seriously. But for the most part, we tease about it for fun, and thats what propagates it further.
  Blue leader46
The CIS Shadowfeed Department
date Posted: Apr 18, 2006 1:08 AM
I mean, do we spend a great deal of time putting down fans of Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate, or Firefly?
Well, they spend a great deal of time putting down us, that much I'll say. ;)
The whole Trek vs Wars is a modern myth
There are millions of websites devoted to how Star Wars beats Star Trek or vice versa...
  Aurin_Starkiller
date Posted: Apr 18, 2006 3:27 PM
Another important thing to remember is that the only reason Star Trek exists as we know it is because of the popularity of Star Wars.

It could be said that both franchises helped to keep each other alive. A lot of people went over to Star Trek inbetween trilogies.

There are millions of websites devoted to how Star Wars beats Star Trek or vice versa...

And most of them are written by immature people who can't stand other's opinions, or people who are just teasing about it for fun. Or fans who really need what Vicomte calls "a healthy dose of reality."

Reality...X-(

God Bless,

May the Force grant you wisdom...
StellaBlu
Obi-Wan's little friend
date Posted: Apr 18, 2006 6:43 PM
When I was a kid growing up I was a Star Trek fan. Then Star Wars appeared, and Wow !!!
I'm sure there are many Trek fans who are also Star Wars fans.....and why not? I'm sure many of you also enjoy the Harry Potter books/movies, Lord of the Rings, etc...... And when some of us where watching Star Trek years ago, we also enjoyed other TV shows like Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, The Incredible Hulk, Six Million Dollar Man, the original Battlestar Galactica, Lost in Space, etc......
I've enjoyed many movies/TV shows over the years, but Star Wars is Numero uno for me!!
:)
JawaJoey
Return of the Jawa
date Posted: Apr 20, 2006 5:51 PM
I consider myself in very much the same position as obiwan122586. I like Star Trek. i often watch it when it's on TV. I like the old series, I like the Next Generation, but I haven't most of the movies, and don't really care enough to try to. Overall, i like Star Trek. it's great. It's another cool Sci-Fi space thing, where there's a whole, existing, operating universe, like ours, except in space with more action and a whole lot cooler. :D

i bear no animosity towards "Trekkies," since I enjoy the same thing they do, and I relate in my love of Star Wars.
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