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Oboe-Wan's Hive of Scum & Villainy
date posted: Dec 10, 2005 11:27 AM  |  updated: Jan 03, 2006 6:00 AM
Holiday Grudges
It's December, and we all know what that means..... it's the holiday season. Shopping. Baking. Sending cards. Remember friends long gone. Imagining ambitious resolutions for the new year that we don't intend to keep.

The holidays have always left a bad taste in my mouth because of the family gatherings. My mother's family is a large, loud, angry Italian crowd. At no point in my 31 years of existence was there a moment where all of them got along. Seriously. If you want to know what the true meaning of Christmas is, don't go to our family gatherings. Run away. Far away. I wish I could go with you.

As I was simmering my first batch of the required tomato sauce today, I got to thinking... is there anyone that can rival our dysfunctional family in holding a grudge? You betcha! It's Darth Vader! He is seriously stewing and simmering over that whole Obi-Wan Kenobi incident on Mustafar. And that was like, what? 20 years before ANH? Phew!

Let's compare: my grandmother was royally angry at one of her daughters and the husband because of something to do with stealing a telephone that no one was using from the basement of my grandparents house. Um.... ok. This went on for YEARS! But, eventually, the phone broke, got thrown away, and that was it. All was forgiven.

Now, we have Anakin who is convinced that his wife and best friend have turned against him over some political events...blah...blah...blah.... and at the end of their duel, Obi-Wan chops Anakin to pieces, watches him burn and leaves him for dead at the side of the lava floe. Not only that but he TAKES ANAKIN'S LIGHTSABER!!!

Are you seeing the parallel here? Ok, let's continue...

Darth Vader is extra cranky about sensing Obi-Wan on board the Death Star, he isn't even interested in hearing Obi-Wan's excuses or arguments or explanations about anything, he's just super-fly pissed over what happened the last time they met. And chopping Obi-Wan in half didn't make him feel any better about it. Believe me, if my grandmother had had a sword to chop my aunt in half, she would have and I guarantee that she would have felt much better about the supposed stolen telephone. But no, not Darth Vader.

In true Sith fashion, he just can't drop it. Every chance he gets to mention Obi-Wan to Luke (with the exception of their conversation on Endor) it's said with venom. In ESB during their duel, Vader says to Luke, "Obi-Wan has taught you well...." and not in a way that makes me think that he's impressed with Obi-Wan's pedagogical prowess. In ROTJ, Vader discovers he has a daughter and what does he say? "Obi-Wan was wise to hide her from me. Now his failure is complete." There. Did you hear it?

I'll type it again: "Now his failure is complete." It seems like after that final insult he could just drop it? He killed Obi-Wan, end of story, he should have been satisfied in ANH. Nope, he had to fester and stew and simmer over this old teacher of his. VADER, JUST DROP IT!!! Take some pleasure in Obi-Wan's failure for pete's sake!

Quite frankly, if Darth Vader walked in to our family Christmas gathering still holding onto to this Obi-Wan grudge, he would fit right in. No one would notice the body armor, the mechanical breathing, the fact that he wasn't eating "enough". Nope, they would all be hanging on to his every word, sympathizing and incubating their own anger over this Obi-Wan guy they'd never met.

Well, pull up a chair Darth, there's plenty of holiday "cheer" to go around. And be thankful you can't partake in the eggnog.....

  isayisayajedi?
I say, I say, a Jedi Knight?
date Posted: Dec 10, 2005 12:41 PM
Good blog...it is try that Vader wanted to destroy Obi-Wan for all those years. Considering that Obi-Wan would spend a retirement somewhere in a perfectly good condition and he would spend an eternity in a suit with mechanical legs and arms and need a machine to breathe. What's more he believes that Obi-Wan was the cause for Padme's death and the supposed death of his child; I think that anyone would hold a grudge for that long; killing Obi-Wan was a little satisfaction, yet he neva got to really put the torture and agony he had been thru thanks to his master.
  Oboe-Wan
Oboe-Wan's Hive of Scum & Villainy
date Posted: Dec 10, 2005 3:26 PM
All true, but it's just more fun to put his sithi-ness into a holiday context!! I think it's funny to think that what like 4 or 5 years after killing Obi-Wan he's still bitter. I guess he wouldn't be a good sith if he practiced forgiveness!!

it is nice to see old Obi & Anakin smiling at each other (in the pre-2004 editions) at the end of ROTJ.

Thanks for reading!
Darthcharlie32
The Cantina at the End of the Universe!
date Posted: Dec 10, 2005 4:06 PM
LOL that made my day! LOL
jkthunder
Seven Pieces
date Posted: Dec 10, 2005 4:34 PM
i dont particularly agree with you there isayajedi. vader might not have blamed obiwan at all. of course this is for the viewer to decide. but for me it seems likely he blamed himself and sidious. vader was vader. as soon as vader died and anakin was back, everyone was all happy pants.

so i say screw the families - mine, like yours except smaller oboe, are terminally melo-dramatic and a holiday fight of some sort seems obligatory.... lets you and me and the other ladies dust everyone and go away to "spa-obiwan", right across the street from the obiwan cafe, for the holidays instead!;)
  Grand Admiral Veers0
date Posted: Dec 10, 2005 5:38 PM
Forget Vader, Maul is the ultimate poster-boy for holding grudges. He wants revenge against the Jedi for wiping out the Sith a thousand years ago. A THOUSAND YEARS!!! His great-great-grandparents grandparents weren't even born yet, but he still hates the Jedi with unrelenting passion. Top that
  Son of a Bith
The Cantina Corner
date Posted: Dec 10, 2005 10:35 PM
How about Jabba? He only loses a few bucks, yet he is sending bounty hunters after him the whole trilogy. He should've been grateful that Han wasn't captured by Imperial customs, or else he would have lost way more money by losing his best smuggler.
  Oboe-Wan
Oboe-Wan's Hive of Scum & Villainy
date Posted: Dec 11, 2005 4:45 AM
Ok, don't get me started on Jabba........ if there was a symbolic character for my grandfather, it's not Don Corleone, it's Jabba the Hutt!! Sitting there, directing everyone, getting pissed that people owe him money.... Thank god my gp didn't have a sarlaac pit or else we'd all be there at the bottom playing canasta w/ Boba Fett. :)

Darth Maul is a great grudge as well! Those sith, they just can't seem to drop it, can they?

Thanks for reading!!!
  mubos
date Posted: Dec 11, 2005 12:53 PM
good thing i only have my imidiate family over for christmas which is like 5 people, Vader would be welcome however just to make an easier job of slicing the turkey and pulling all the money out of the christmas pud. or R2 we need someone to serve drinks around here.
Jabba can stay outside and eat his 24 courses, i aint payin for my sofa to be cleaned again.
  illegal_sith91
date Posted: Dec 11, 2005 2:09 PM
Cool blog Obeo-Wan. I have to say, there isn't a moment that i don't watch the original trilogy and count how many times Vader talks about Obi-Wan. And by the way, your grandmother is just like mine except mine is alot worse. She is always saying that someone steals something in her house. Your not the only one in the galaxy with bad family get-togethers. Vader can eat Christmas dinner with me anytime as long as he doesn't choke me to death when i don't pass the mashed potatoes.

  cestus183
date Posted: Dec 12, 2005 12:55 AM
Vader can eat Christmas dinner with me anytime as long as he doesn't choke me to death when i don't pass the mashed potatoes.
ok, I'll take Obi. Split them apart to maintain peace.
Nope, they would all be hanging on to his every word, sympathizing and incubating their own anger over this Obi-Wan guy they'd never met.
Funny...Obi-Wan's supposed to be the most well-loved character of the saga according to Hyperspace polls
  Oboe-Wan
Oboe-Wan's Hive of Scum & Villainy
date Posted: Dec 12, 2005 4:52 AM
Funny...Obi-Wan's supposed to be the most well-loved character of the saga according to Hyperspace polls
Sure, if you actually "watch" the movies. But if DV sat down and started telling you his side of the story, wouldn't you question obi wan's character?

(shhh..... don't tell anyone, but this line was supposed to be funny)
Darth Vader
Meditation Chamber
date Posted: Dec 12, 2005 10:45 PM
Awww... Thank you so much for inviting me over Oboe! I'm touched. I really am. And no I WILL NOT DROP IT OKAY!!!!

:^O

Loved the blog. Nice family, you have. Has your grandma ever had yellow Sith eyes? That'd be really cool! :p
amidalooine
The Emotional Galaxy
date Posted: Mar 30, 2006 7:01 AM
What a brilliant blog entry...another one I hadn't read before!
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