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 | Darth Vader: An Ensemble Performance |
 Early on during the production of Episode III, there was heated online debate over the appearance of the fully costumed Darth Vader in the final installment of the Star Wars saga. The primary bone of contention had to do with who would perform under the mask. When word reached the Internet that it would Hayden Christensen, there was an uproar from those who thought it would be impossible.
People complained about heights and sizes, and typed vehemently that the disparity would be glaringly obvious.
What these people overlooked was that the classic Vader images that had been so indelibly emblazoned in their minds was always the result of an ensemble performance. Depending on where you looked or what you watched, you could be seeing a number of people beneath the helmet.
What brings this up now is our brand new Kessel Mines article about Darth Vader's performer for character appearances and publicity stills. It's a great article by Pete Vilmur, and it sheds light on a number of things that took me by surprise. It mentions the famous Factors poster of Vader holding his lightsaber while standing against a heavily airbrushed background. It was one of my favorite posters as a kid. You may remember it as the back cover of Random House's Star Wars Storybook from 1978.
I would never have guessed that the Darth Vader standing on the back of that book was different from the Darth Vader in the movie.
Oh sure, you're thinking, it's not a fair comparison because these Vaders were about the same height. The main online argument against Hayden was that he was too short to play Vader.
But this overlooks the fact that by that same reckoning, stunt double Bob Anderson would be too short to play Vader. Yet play him he did in all the best duels - the ones in Empire and Jedi. When I was gathering photos for the Photoreceptor series for Hyperspace, I was surprised to find scores of pictures of Bob Anderson in armor that were never published, because they show his feet. Look through your old storybooks - the pictures of Vader dueling Luke never show Vader's feet! Why? Because Bob Anderson is wearing platform shoes!
For years, those photos were restricted from publication to not spoil the illusion. But Photorecepter got to run several of them:
Double Duel
A Swing and a Miss
Dark Lord Double
Even after Hayden proved his mettle playing the part, some people still wouldn't accept it was him under the helmet, despite the documented evidence on the DVD and in the Making Episode III video series. In fact, I heard of some people who thought the Vader seen walking down the Star Destroyer's central bridge platform was computer-generated, since they were so eager to believe that Christensen could not pull it off.
There is no CG Vader in that scene. It is Hayden walking.
Vader has always been an ensemble performance, from Dave Prowse's commanding presence to Bob Anderson's great swordwork to James Earl Jones' stentorian tones. No one person should ever take credit for it.
Regarding the Revenge of the Sith merchandise that appeared everywhere around the world last year, I've got a not-so-surprising secret for you: that's not always Hayden under the helmet on the side of a Burger King cup or on a box of crackers. Likewise, it wasn't Dave Prowse decorating the side of Pepsi displays back in 1997. Or even 1977, as this great Kessel Mines proves.
Not that it really matters. Because in the end, it's all Vader.
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JawaJoey Return of the Jawa
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date Posted: Apr 20, 2006 8:32 PM
Way to set the nay-sayers straight. Those photoreceptor pictures are cool, and pretty funny, actually.
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Berzz Khattazz al'Yun
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date Posted: Apr 20, 2006 8:54 PM
Nice. I never really wondered who was behind Vader's mask. But one thing is for sure, Hayden Christensen was behind it in Revenge of the Sith, as shown in the DVD. Or at least that's what I think.
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anakinside1 Echoes from the Asteroid Field
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date Posted: Apr 20, 2006 9:00 PM
Knowing Hayden is behind the mask is what really makes the performance so much more emotional for me in ROTS. When the OT begins and I know it's not really Hayden anymore it's harder for me to connect. It's not so much that I'm a big Hayden fan (though I think he did an amazing job), it's that I'm an Anakin fan and Anakin, for me looks like Hayden.
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FAN4YRS A Rebel's Ramblings
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date Posted: Apr 20, 2006 9:06 PM
What an education. When I saw the title for this blog I thought, he's gonna tell us it was James E. Jones, Dave Prowse, Sebastian Shaw, Hayden, but I never thought it was all these other folks, too. I guess as long as it looks like Darth Vader on the screen I'm happy. It's funny, though, because I remember when we thought Mark Hamill would play Anakin (back in the 1980's) and Mark himself basically said "I'm too short".
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jkthunder Seven Pieces
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date Posted: Apr 20, 2006 10:25 PM
The Star Wars Storybook brings back such memories. I still have that and some others like Chewbacca's (or was it just The Wookiee)bStorybook etc.
So cool to share the behind the scenes stuff pab... thanks! Those platforms could not have been easy to duel in! But maybe being the 80s and all, they were used to it
Even as a kid, I never thought the "movie DV" also did promo shots (and didnt expect any other appearances except ROTS to be HC). Always the skeptic I suppose.
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Kataar Read, Write, Watch, Enjoy!
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date Posted: Apr 20, 2006 10:52 PM
I don't think Vader's waltz down the star destroyer in Ep III was CGI, but I think there was a lot of composite and post production done to it. You can tell by the plastic-looking glean off of his robes when he first appears walking. Maybe it's not easy for the untrained eye, but as a graphic design artist things like that jump out at me. That's probably the origin of the whole "he was CGI there!" debate.
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mrYoda84 Little Green One's Swamp
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date Posted: Apr 20, 2006 10:56 PM
good blog,i like how you got all points out but made sure to shut up the nay-sayers about it not being hayden. some people just wanna twist every little thing they can
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cannonman76
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date Posted: Apr 21, 2006 1:20 AM
I'm glad hayden put on the mask and went the extra mile when he did not have too....it made ROTS worth the money and time I spent (and lost from work). Hayden is a good guy and we should be happy that he is a true Star Wars fan......its nice to know that George would let other guys step in the shoes of the "big guy" so as too make the performance the best he could possibly make it....great blog
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luuke.skywalker
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date Posted: Apr 21, 2006 8:07 AM
I thought it was Anakin Skywalker inside there
And another question... why am I able to comment on a VIP blog? Your name is still in green... Were you demoted, or were all of us Realspacers promoted? Or is this a one-time special?
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that r2 guy But What I'd Really Like to Do is...
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date Posted: Apr 21, 2006 8:44 AM
For the release of "Empire", Lucasfilm actually had several Vaders combing the country, stationed geographically on the east coast, west coat and midwest. The midwest Vader, Tom Bewley, continued on doing Vader for quite a number of years. Not only did he portray him at public appearances, he was Vader in the Japanese commercials created for Panasonic in the late 80s and even portrayed him onscreen for a cameo in the Frank Oz film "Indian in the Cupboard". His most famous appearance, however, is as Vader vs. The Energizer Bunny in that popular TV commercial.
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that r2 guy But What I'd Really Like to Do is...
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date Posted: Apr 21, 2006 8:45 AM
OTHER VADERS PT.2
Because we needed more of a local Vader, we enlisted the services of a (then) Lucasarts employee, C. Andrew Nelson. He did many local appearances, and even made some filmed ones, including extra scenes as Vader for the Special editions, as well as a few commercials that were part of the marketing blitz for Revenge of the Sith.
More recently, Vader has been played publically by members of the 501st.
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jkthunder Seven Pieces
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date Posted: Apr 21, 2006 9:33 AM
So cool Don... er that 'r2 guy'. Thanks again to you and Pab for the inside scoops.
More recently, Vader has been played publically by members of the 501st.
And thousands of 6 to 12 year olds around the world
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bonniegrrl Droids Just Wanna Have Fun
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date Posted: Apr 21, 2006 10:23 AM
Yes there's more Vaders than meet the eye. And thank goodness. What the world really does need is more tall blokes wearing black capes. Great blog, Pabs!
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RyanKaufman Look, sir! Zombies!
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date Posted: Apr 21, 2006 10:32 AM
Are you telling me the Vader menacing me from the box of Cheez-Its is not the real Vader???
?!?!?!
I'm going to my room now, to rethink my reality...
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Darth Vader Meditation Chamber
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date Posted: Apr 21, 2006 3:20 PM
Great blog and Kessel Mines article! I had no idea who that guy was until now, and he deserves a lot of credit. Nice to see him in the front page.
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darthgrnmachn
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date Posted: Apr 21, 2006 5:41 PM
Noooooooooooooooooooooo! My lack of Hyperspace membership disturbs me.
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jedisasso
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date Posted: Apr 21, 2006 7:16 PM
thanks for the blog, i was actually 1 of the people that thought vader walkin on the bridge was CGI, do they explain y he looks digtial cuz the lighting on his cape really doesnt match to well
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8061604
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date Posted: Apr 21, 2006 7:26 PM
the world can do with some more vaders agree disagree oh by the way no 1 at my skool likes sta rwars so if anyone has msn and likes to chat about star wars add me Rocca_96@hotmail.com
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Vader-fan#1
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date Posted: Apr 21, 2006 10:45 PM
I never noticed.And Wwwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy am I allowed to post on a VIP blog?
MTFBWY
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TIE hunter exrordinair 2
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date Posted: Apr 21, 2006 11:46 PM
Hayden deserves recognition for his role as Vader. No one but Hayden could have filled that suit, and I don't physically. If they put someone else in there it would only by an empty shell of black armour and a big helmet, Hayden was the heart and soul behind the mask, he was the true Vader.
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Linkin_jedi
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date Posted: Apr 22, 2006 4:00 AM
awsome
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Nils99
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date Posted: Apr 22, 2006 4:32 AM
You also have to give credit to Ben Burtt (wasn't it?) who did the breathing.
And concerning Haydens performance in the suit, I can really feel that it was Haydens voice that James Earl Jones dubbed over in the mask. You know, "Where is Padme? Is she safe? Is she alright? (...) I? I couldn't have.... Nooooooooooo!" Who's with me?
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MissPadme Miss Padme's Naboo Love Nest
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date Posted: Apr 22, 2006 10:22 AM
My favorite argument I used against anyone who kvetched about Hayden's height was if they could make Elijah Wood short enough to be a Hobbit, they can certainly make Hayden tall enough to be Vader. The fact OT stunt double Bob Anderson was the same height as Hayden just gave me more ammo  .
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darthrobert89
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date Posted: Apr 23, 2006 12:15 AM
i totally agree with TIE hunter only hayden could have done it
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darkjedijulian1233423
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date Posted: Apr 23, 2006 5:00 AM
i wish I had a hyperspace membership
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weatheriscool@hotmail.com
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date Posted: Apr 23, 2006 8:27 AM
Knowing Hayden is behind the mask is what really makes the performance so much more emotional for me in ROTS.
I agree completely, but hayden did a crappy job in AOTC!
HEY, i have that old storybook! And the ESB and ROTJ ones! Hey, has anyone here read I, JEDI. I'd like some feedback on how good it is to determine if i should read it!
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Oboe-Wan Oboe-Wan's Hive of Scum & Villainy
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date Posted: Apr 23, 2006 10:49 AM
Seeing the lifts on Anderson's boots was mind boggling for me. Darth Vader is Darth Vader, regardless of who is in the suit. But seeing the boots? That was like finding out I really am adopted from an alien planet!!
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Ello137 Apocalypse Later
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date Posted: Apr 23, 2006 2:10 PM
I've read blogs which argue that every Boba Fett seen in the movies is fake because of 1~2 cm hight discrepencies. Sometimes, these things just need to be swept under the rug.
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Nat
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date Posted: Apr 23, 2006 4:04 PM
Hi Pablo,
SUPERB article about Kermit Bryce Eller !
Are you able to research and reveal who did the UK Vader appearances please ? I managed to see the Dark Lord twice in the 80s .......... and received TWO DIFFERENT signatures !!!
Thanx
Nat
(UK)
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JediV0S
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date Posted: Apr 23, 2006 5:29 PM
Very Informative, great post
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legostarw This will be a blog long remembered...
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date Posted: Apr 23, 2006 7:27 PM
Yes, a very good post indeed. It really does make me think about everything I've come to know...lol nah I'm just kidding, but really it does...
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anakinlover166
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date Posted: Apr 24, 2006 8:57 AM
I don't think it really matters who is behind the mask just as long as someone is behind the mask.
xxcyaxx
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Pabawan Fragments from the Mind's Eye
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date Posted: Apr 24, 2006 9:28 AM
SUPERB article about Kermit Bryce Eller ! Are you able to research and reveal who did the UK Vader appearances please ? I managed to see the Dark Lord twice in the 80s .......... and received TWO DIFFERENT signatures !!!
You should ask Pete Vilmur about that; it's his article. I link to his blog up above.
but I think there was a lot of composite and post production done to it. You can tell by the plastic-looking glean off of his robes when he first appears walking. Maybe it's not easy for the untrained eye, but as a graphic design artist things like that jump out at me.
There is no digital sweetening of his cape; that was caught in-camera.
ph
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jediholteh
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date Posted: Apr 24, 2006 10:52 AM
When word reached the Internet that it would Hayden Christensen, there was an uproar from those who thought it would be impossible.
My dad and I went to got see the film together in theater; when Anakin rose as the fully suited Darth Vader, he whispered, "Does Vader look a little skinny to you?" and we just laughed. After all those years of having the body-builder David Prowse fill the siut, it did look odd.
But, then again, it does make sense to actually put the normally-sized Anakin in there; he wouldn't go from small to large almost instantly. Though, it is a possiblity that during 20 years he could have gained a little weight.. maybe. Do Jedi gain weight? Gah.
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EthnVaderPhaser
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date Posted: Apr 24, 2006 11:37 AM
Ok, I'll be the bad guy and stick up for Dave Prowse here. No seems to want to mention him...this guy played Vader throughout the originals when ever Vader was not doing stunts. He had a distinct mannerism and a menacing strut that was automatically associated with Vader. George Lucas himself had stated that David Prowse was crucial for playing Darth Vader and no one else could play him (due to the distinct acting style and physical build). By the time ROTS came around David Prowse had been beefing up for the return to the suit...only to find out that new-comer Hayden Christensen has moaned to GL about getting the role until they finally gave in...
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EthnVaderPhaser
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date Posted: Apr 24, 2006 11:37 AM
...Christensen writes off Prowse's performance by saying..."they could have just got a tall guy in a suit to play him but I was persistent." I for one didn't think Hayden pulled off Vader very well (the Frankenstein and crossing arms bits were the worst), I think Mr. Prowse did an exceptional job at portraying Vader on screen and should not be so easily dismissed. (a special nod to Bob Anderson who did his best to most accurately follow Prowse's instructions on how Vader should be played)
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Darth Anakin45
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date Posted: Apr 24, 2006 2:25 PM
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hansgirl3 Invoking the Squee
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date Posted: Apr 24, 2006 2:48 PM
I understand why Hayden would want to put The Suit on, but Prowse will always be Vader to me. I have mixed feelings on this one.
I can see where Hayden taking the full transformation on from Anakin to Vader is important and he did a great job. However, personally, as an OT fan from 1977, it's hard knowing that Prowse is actually not in that suit.
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MIKESITH84
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date Posted: Apr 24, 2006 3:59 PM
For me it was cool to see Hayden don the armor in ROTS because you get to see the complete transformation, from the first shot of him in his starfighter to his scarred head being enclosed in the helmet. It just seals the deal better. As far as Hayden being too small to be a good Vader, that's up for debate. I don't think he looked bad in the suit at all. Another point that I think is worth mentioning is that I don't think Lucas ever intended on Anakin being this hulking mass of a Jedi. I think any size Vader gained in the 20 years between ROTS and ANH was purely due to modifications to his cybernetic parts to make himself appear more menacing in order to strike fear in others.
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Wampa_Jedi Jedi Wampa's Playhouse
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date Posted: Apr 26, 2006 2:17 AM
I have no reason to doubt the pros about Hayden being in the suit. I do have a question that may not be answered, though...
As I'm sitting here, the credits have just rolled on EpIII, so I just saw the Venator bridge shot that seems to be much disputed. Again, no problem with Hayden as Darth, but is that Mr. McDiarmed as the Emperor standing next to him? Just wondering, cause the shot make it seem possible (however unlikely) that this may be a stand in.
Am I being delusional again?
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Darth Dan X Dan's Addiction
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date Posted: Apr 26, 2006 11:41 AM
Thank you, Pabawan, for posting this in-depth blog entry. Unfortunately, there are many fans out there who wish to tear down whatever they can about the prequels, instead of accepting them as the equal masterpieces to the classic trilogy that they are. Whether that's barking that Hayden is not a good Anakin, or whether or not he can pull off wearing Vader's suit, their griefing of all things prequel will be a never-ending enslaught, I assure you.
In closing, you said it best:
[QUOTE: Pabawan]
Not that it really matters. Because in the end, it's all Vader.
Forget that, you would do well to not!"
-Master Zjenda
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weatheriscool@hotmail.com
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date Posted: Apr 29, 2006 4:08 PM
hmmm, this blog is still going!!!!! ha, i got the last post!!!!
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EthnVaderPhaser
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date Posted: Apr 29, 2006 8:01 PM
Um...did you ever stop to think that the OT is actually better and you are just under an illusion? I offer proof that your position is quite the minority...
http://www.imdb.com/chart/top
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