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Fragments from the Mind's Eye
date posted: Jun 02, 2006 6:08 PM  |  updated: Jun 02, 2006 6:14 PM
The Myth of the Empire Surprise
"Things were different back then," us old timers say, sitting back in our rocking chairs, adjusting our corn cob pipes and reaching for a handful of Pepperidge Farm Cookies.

"In our day," we say, "we didn't have movies spoiled for us by some dad-blamed Internets. Why, no one, I daresay no one could have seen the ending of The Empire Strikes Back coming! Everyone in that theater was totally shocked about Vader's relationship to Luke Skywalker."

Hardly. No remembers that a few periodicals actually got their rumors right, though everyone does remember the UK Tabloid that printed that Obi-Wan was Luke's father, thanks to some loose-lipped member of the cast mouthing out what he didn't know was misinformation. But there's more to it.

I recall each April preceding the prequel release when spoiler-free fans would get in a tizzy when the novel would be released. They'd rail against the Lucasfilm for only wanting a quick buck and putting books and toys on the shelves over a month before the release of the movie.

But let's be a bit more realistic. To be fair, yes, it is money that drives the release pattern of movie merchandise, but it's hardly LFL's doing. That's the cycle that retailers and consumers have created. Retailers only want to stock their shelves with movie product when it's hot, and it's never hotter than right before release. After that, the next big thing has already come along and begun gobbling up shelf-space. Granted, in the days of the original trilogy release, the cycle didn't seem nearly as accelerated, but the prequel release had Spider-Men, Matrices, Batmen and Fantastic Foursomes breathing down retailers' necks, battling for shelf-space, end-of-aisle placement and the spending dollars of consumers.

And any claim that it was different back in the day, that the Empire secret was kept until the day of release, is simply not true.

Because the novelization of Empire came out on April 12, 1980.

Fans had over a month to peek at the back of the book and find out the truth there, and that's not even taking into account storybooks and comics that were also available around that time. Or the fact that some cities had to wait till June for the movie, but the novel was released everywhere at the same time.

Why bring this up now? Because Pirates and Superman merchandise is coming out, proving the cycle true yet again. And, because I'm on a retro kick and just came across the 1980 Bantha Tracks that let readers know the novel was coming out in April 1980.

ph

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The Star Wars Uncle
date Posted: Jun 02, 2006 6:29 PM
Rocking chair? I was in my rocking cradle at the time.
hansgirl3
Invoking the Squee
date Posted: Jun 02, 2006 6:32 PM
Very good point made here, Pabawan! We just want to forget sometimes! :)
jedilily1026
Years Matter Not (Gone Crazy...Be Back Soon)
date Posted: Jun 02, 2006 6:42 PM
Corn Cob Pipes I'm not that old. But I remember and your right. Money, Money, Money...
  cafeobiwan1
date Posted: Jun 02, 2006 7:08 PM
True. I'm young enough to say that almost every movie I see has been spoiled by spoilers.
Well I may have spoiled a few for myself...

Obi Out
  Wampa_Jedi
Jedi Wampa's Playhouse
date Posted: Jun 02, 2006 7:43 PM
Over the last six or seven years (the time of the Prequels), I had people ask me why I kept buying the books when they were released. "You're going to ruin the movie!"

Hardly...

My standard (and true) response is that reading the books make me want to see the movies more. I read a scene and think "I can't wait to see how the pulled THAT off."

Plus, the books aren't always the same. Did anyone here read the novelization of X2 before the movie came out? On the off chance someone hasn't seen the film, I won't ruin the end, but the book was TOTALLY different, and it made me almost come out of my seat in the theatre.
MissPadme
Miss Padme's Naboo Love Nest
date Posted: Jun 02, 2006 7:59 PM
Well, I was surprised. But I was 10 years old at the time ;).

You're right, the novelization came out about a month before the movie and anyone who cared could have read about it all beforehand.

However, how many people back then wanted to be spoiled with the book before seeing the movie :p .
Jedi Master Mina
Another Galaxy, another time
date Posted: Jun 02, 2006 8:46 PM
us old timers say, sitting back in our rocking chairs, adjusting our corn cob pipes and reaching for a handful of Pepperidge Farm Cookies

Eeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww....Speak for yourself buddy. Pepperidge Farm cookies? Come on...Anything but those.

"In our day," we say, "we didn't have movies spoiled for us by some dad-blamed Internets....Everyone in that theater was totally shocked about Vader's relationship to Luke Skywalker."

You are gorram right...Yep, I was there on opening day...And the crying and surprise reactions were priceless to hear and watch...Good times, good times. Thanks for the memories.
Granny-Wan
I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
date Posted: Jun 02, 2006 11:22 PM
However, how many people back then wanted to be spoiled with the book before seeing the movie

Not many, the movie was the big thing. Who knew there was even going to BE a shocker in there anyway? And the whether or not it was true didn't come out until 1983... and even then I tried to avoid spoilers, but my 6 year old had gotten a ROTJ Storybook from a school book order that arrived before the movie came out...

And the crying and surprise reactions were priceless to hear and watch...

With all that gasping going on, it's a wonder there was any air left in the theatre... B-)

Dan Wallace
Continuity, Criticisms, and Captain Panaka
date Posted: Jun 03, 2006 8:33 PM
Very true. When I saw the movie, I had already had the digest-sized comics adaptation for weeks. The biggest surprise for me was that Yoda was green, not tiny and blue.
The Stooge
Star Wars Joke-A-Day
date Posted: Jun 03, 2006 9:23 PM
Tell 'em like it is, Pabs!
Rainbow Droideka
Aren't you a little short for an egg?
date Posted: Jun 04, 2006 4:21 AM
Great blog, Pabs! I had always sort of wondered about this and just never gotten around to looking it up....
  Lieutenant Wiggum Jansen
DETENTION BLOG AA23
date Posted: Jun 04, 2006 7:03 AM
And don't forget, even when the movie itself came out, who believed Vader? We didn't "find out" if Vader was telling the truth until Return of the Jedi! James Earl Jones thought that Vader must be lying.

It was an agonizing three years between V and VI!
  rj_peters
Memos from the Imperial Finance Department
date Posted: Jun 04, 2006 6:14 PM
And don't forget, even when the movie itself came out, who believed Vader?

I was 6 when Empire came out and that was a major discussion point on the playground. It was probably darn near 50/50 on who believed Vader and who thought he was saying that as part of some evil plot. He didn't produce a DNA test result at the end of Empire.
DJ Maul: Got Feet?
DJ Maul's Dancin' Cantina Party
date Posted: Jun 05, 2006 7:54 PM
memory is hazy at my age...but I was 13 when ESB came out, and I dont remember getting any advance notice on the Vader is Dad thing...I was just as shocked as everyone else of course, and Im pretty sure I spent the next three years just like everyone else:

wondering if it was TRUE...


On the other end, I didnt mind so much reading ROTS before I saw the film, because to a degree I knew the ending ANYWAY: Anakin becomes Vader, the twins are born, Padme dies and Obi Wan & Yoda disappear...not too hard to figure out, lol, so reading it didnt blow the film experience for me at all.
lovelucas
date Posted: Jun 06, 2006 11:37 AM
I don't remember any advance notice either....but different era, different access to info and the speed received. It does seem we hunger more for spoilers in this age of the prequels, obsessively so, and I'm among those that were parched for them. I did get an unintentional last minute spoiler for ESB, though - and it was the big one.....as we were going in I overheard someone coming out saying they couldn't believe what happened at the end, without exactly saying what it was. Pimp.
O.J.
date Posted: Jun 17, 2006 5:16 PM
Very good blog, Pablo and very true. Although, before the internet it was easier to stay away from being tempted to read spoilers.
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