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Fragments from the Mind's Eye
date posted: Sep 08, 2006 1:10 PM  |  updated: Sep 08, 2006 1:24 PM
Happy Birthday, Star Trek!
There should never be any shred of trepidation for a Star Wars fan to admit he digs Star Trek. The notion that there's a rivalry between these two franchises is not only artificial, but it's outdated. It may have had some currency in the pre-internet days, when fandom was largely defined by being either a Star Wars fan or a Star Trek fan, but now, in a post-Hobbit, Hogwarts, and Anime online world we find ourselves in, the big two grand-daddy franchises with "Star" in their names are just two meaty parts in a big geek stew.

Back in the early '90s, Star Wars fans could point to being hipper than thou, as the Trek crowd bore the brunt of the basement-dweller stereotype. Remember the Star Trek 30th anniversary TV special, where one-credit celebrities with pasted-on smiles and rented tuxes limped their way through well-meaning yet misfiring tributes, including a retrospective on Trek's visuals with musical accompaniment by Kenny G.

Kenny frickin' G.

The Star Wars fan of 1996 could mock whole-heartedly, pointing to the fact that scenester acts like Weezer and Ween proclaimed themselves Star Wars fans and that kids gladly be-decaled their skateboards with Boba Fett stickers but wouldn't likely do the same with a Harcourt Fenton Mudd sticker.

But 10 years later, both franchises are getting long in the tooth and creaky in the knees. You can't really play the hip card, not with upstart whippersnappers like Matrix, Rings, Spider-Man and X-Men drawing in the teen crowds. And thanks to websites, blogs and wikis, it's obvious Star Wars fans are just as obsessive and cellar-dwelling - if not more so - than their Trek cousins. Endor Holocaust dissertations anyone?

But Wars does have a sizable edge over Trek in terms of future, because kids LOVE Star Wars. As much as 30-year-old Star Wars fans like to gripe about Special Edition that and Jar Jar this, the changes and innovations that upset the old and crabby have won over a new audience of tow-headed lightsaber-wielders.

(G'head. Try showing a 13-year old the '77 version of Star Wars and the '04 version, and seeing which one they prefer. Now do you start to understand the reasoning behind such things...?)

A whole new generation of six to 12 year olds want to be Jedi Knights, Bounty Hunters and Rebel heroes. Kids love Anakin, Obi-Wan, Yoda and General Grievous. You expect that. I'd be very surprised to find an eight-year-old who wants to be Kirk, Janeway or Sisko.

But enough with the ultimately unhelpful comparisons. This is Trek's day, and bravo on 40 solid years. You've given me countless hours of entertainment at just pennies a serving. You offer a universe that, while not as homey as the Star Wars universe is to me, is always a welcome place for me to visit.

So, here are my two strips of gold-pressed latinum on the various Trek incarnations of the past four decades...

The Original Series: Call me a heretic, but I could never get into the original series. And it's for the most shallow - yet pertinent - of reasons. I couldn't get past the 60s production values and dated designs. It all looked too much like people "playing Star Trek" rather than Star Trek, if that makes any sense. And yes, I do understand, intellectually the appeal of the Trek triumvirate of Kirk, Spock and McCoy, and the issues that they grappled and how it was a mirror to 1960s society, but it never connected emotionally. I just couldn't get past the silly day-glow look of the whole thing. I'm one of the few people my age who is unapologetically looking forward to the CG upgrade, because maybe then I'll be able to look past the seams.

The Original Series Movies: It wasn't until the movies that I came to appreciate the original crew, since they thankfully now had a budget and were able to tackle big sprawling vistas befitting a setting as big as a galaxy.

The Motion Picture was too long and plodding, and any points that Trekkers tried to score by claiming the movie was much more spiritual and intellectual than its popcorn-friendly contemporary, Star Wars, are lost when they have to fess up that the basic premise of the movie was ripped off from an episode of the series. And, oh man, the spandex...

The Wrath of Khan is the perfect Trek movie. Starfleet is transformed into a military force, thanks to the superb direction and vision of Nicholas Meyer. There's real heart in there, as Kirk struggles with age, and a fantastic scenery-chewing villain in Kahn. It doesn't get better than this.

Search for Spock is underrated. While Christopher Lloyd is no Ricardo Montalban, he plays a perfectly enjoyable Klingon villain in what ends up being an entertaining flick. The Enterprise explosion is some of ILM's finest miniature pyrotechnics.

The Voyage Home is overrated. It's by far the most appealing Trek movie to non-Trekkers, for its much more relatable future fish out of water story, but in retrospect, it comes off as cheap, embarrassing and hasn't aged well.

The Final Frontier is stunningly bad. Oh, there's a lot of bad movies made, but thanks to home video, very few incompetently-made movies make it to the big screen. Micheal Bay movies, for example, are horrid, but they're technically competent. Trek V has the distinction of not only being bad, but being totally inept through-and-through. It's watchable in a VH-1-Behind-the-Train-Wreck kinda way.

The Undiscovered Country wins back a lot of the welcome that was worn out by Frontier, and while good, it's a little too puffed up and full of itself to be great. Too much Shakespeare (I can't help but think the Bard would be embarrassed), and the Scooby Doo ending of the video version is silly, but it's still a suitable send-off for the beloved crew.

The Next Generation: This is where I climbed aboard the Trek train. The first two seasons are almost unwatchable, mired by embarrassing spandex pajamas, subpar effects, and writers and actors struggling to find their characters, but by the third season, it picked up steam. Smart stories, great characters and real relationships between said characters was the appeal. Sure, TNG had its faults - it can be blamed for making the boardroom a sci-fi staple (ugh, all that was missing was bagels that nobody asked for), and watching TNG today, it seems quaint and stodgy compared to edgier modern fare like Firefly and BSG. But more than any other part of Trek, TNG defines what Trek is - good and bad.

The Next Generation Movies: A real mixed bag of stuff. Generations is embarrassing, with too small a story, too wimpy a villain, and too weepy a captain to frame a story wherein Kirk gets iced. First Contact is a blast, though more jokey than it should be at times. Insurrection is utterly forgettable, while Nemesis is a bad idea all around. Dune buggies? What is this, Metalstorm?

Deep Space Nine: Hands down, my favorite Trek of the bunch. The earthy, backstabbing politics and particularly the morally ambiguous war years of the later seasons makes the TNG Enterprise look as thrilling as a Marriott in space. Oh, and Dax managed to be a babe without wearing too-tight clothing.

Voyager: Never got into it, and again, for pretty shallow reasons. The ethnic diversity of the crew seemed so labored and manufactured as to be slightly insulting (What, no Inuit crewmembers?) and living in Manitoba at the time, Captain Janeway's nasal voice reminded me so much of Senator Sharon Carstairs that I just couldn't stand to hear her talk.

Enterprise: They lost me with the power ballad intro theme, and never won me back. I gave the show a full three minutes before turning my back on it. Sorry.

But at least I didn't spend years complaining about it on Trek fansites. :)


Joe Corroney
Drawing in the Empire
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 1:37 PM
Micheal Bay movies, for example, are horrid, but they're technically competent

:D!

The Stooge
Star Wars Joke-A-Day
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 1:41 PM
Smart stuff. Now get out of that basement! :p
  Japanese Fett
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 2:19 PM
Star Trek! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!:_|

Sayonara, & MTFBWY
Ghent
From the Desk of Ghent
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 2:22 PM
Hey, I tune in to Enterprise just for the song, THEN switch the stations when Captain MacGyver shows up. (Erm, Quantum Leap? Sliders? Something like that...)

For some reason, I'm really excited about the new CG enhanced versions of TOS starting on Sept 16! Thank goodness a Canadian station has picked it up...
  rj_peters
Memos from the Imperial Finance Department
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 2:33 PM
In the post ROTJ world of the mid-80's to early-90's, I was all about Star Trek and had pretty well forgotten about Star Wars. After all Star Wars was basically three movies and that's about it. I loved the TOS and loved TNG at that time. I read TOS books pretty seriously for a few years. (It's fascinating that ST does not incorporate books into continuity, whereas SW is fanatical about everything fitting in if possible.) Then when TNG stopped, I faded away from ST. Saw an episode or two of DS9 and VOY; never saw Enterprise. Saw every movie, though, including the last one which was so very awful and sad. All this 40th anniversary stuff has my ST bug coming back to life. Yet I think I can only handle one obsession at a time right now.
  vadersgirl33
vadersgirl_reflections
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 2:34 PM
I watched the original TV series when I was a kid. Wasn't a big fan, though. Liked the movies better. Wrath of Khan was awesome. I liked the Undicovered Country next. The rest were ok
Watched the Next Generation from time to time. Never really got into the other spinoffs, though.
  Dagon23
One Sith to Rule them All
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 3:02 PM
I'm not a fan of Star Trek, but my Mom wanted to go see the 40th aniversary celebration (We happened to be in LV at the time) it was really small. Not to many people considering it was Star Trek. I did get to meet the guy that played Lurch on The Adams Family though, he was pretty cool
Pabawan
Fragments from the Mind's Eye
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 3:10 PM
I did get to meet the guy that played Lurch on The Adams Family though, he was pretty cool

The original or the new? Because if it was new, he also played King Terak in the Ewok movies: http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/terak/

ph
gold5
I lost Tiree, lost Dutch!..or How I learned to stop worrying and love the Death Star.
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 3:28 PM
I admit to being a Trek fan as well as a SW fan. But as I have said in a past blog I was a sci-fi fan in general before SW came out. It just interests me the most with it's spiritual basis. I have seen everything ST and enjoy them all. Kahn was the best movie. I actually loved the Enterprise series. It had great stories and had the best TV special effects of the lot. The third season was the best and tended to be a bit edgier. Didn't compare to Farscape, BSG though.

I have a good friend who is more a Trek fan so I had sent him an email wishing Happy 40th to ST. :)
  Wampa_Jedi
Jedi Wampa's Playhouse
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 3:37 PM
I will wave a lightsaber and phaser in equal turn. Before '91 (Zahn Books), I was compiling a fair collection of Trek books.

One thing I have to disagree with you, though, is on Trek IV. I liked this movie for the same reason the studio and director (Mr. Nimoy) expressed: After II and III, the series needed a little lightening up. The best parts aren't necassarily the 'fish outta water' parts though ('cause whales are mammals, not fish, DUH! ;) ). To me, the better parts are the beginning, where we get to see more 'Fleet ships and crew (though they are getting spanked by whalesong) and the stuff - fore and aft parts of the film - inside SFHQ. I just thought it was a decent, lightweight popcorn flick.

  Wampa_Jedi
Jedi Wampa's Playhouse
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 3:39 PM

Oh, yeah, and the stuff with Chekov on the Enterprise....

Security: "Let's start at the beginning...name?"
Chekov: "My name?"
Security: "No, MY name..."
Chekov: "I do not know your name."

Classic "Who's on first?" kinda stuff.... ;)
  Dagon23
One Sith to Rule them All
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 3:54 PM
The original or the new?

I just looked it up and he played the new Lurch
  Green Am I
Mudhole? Slimy?! My blog this is!
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 4:23 PM
Star Trek... I recently... tried to get into it. I watched a few of the original episodes, and like Pabawan, I just couldn't get past the 60s stuff. No offense to you Trek Fans, but it was all just so... goofy. But not really funny, more of just... badly done? I mean, I know it was only the 60s, but still... Oh well. I plan to check out Original Series Movies next, because I assume they're a tad better than the TV series.

By the way, do crazy people end up trying to take over the Enterprise/kill everybody in every episode? All the ones I watched had that plot.

Green Am I :)
Pabawan
Fragments from the Mind's Eye
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 4:28 PM
I just couldn't get past the 60s stuff. No offense to you Trek Fans, but it was all just so... goofy.

It's a stylistic, generational thing. The shocking thing is, Star Wars is experiencing the same thing... the prequel generation looks at the quaint original trilogy, and wonders how anyone could find it superior, ESPECIALLY when looking at the much ballyhooed unaltered trilogy.

Embrace the change, fellow geezers. ;)

ph
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 5:25 PM
I love all things classic Star Trek. The original television and film series. My favorite films (of that series) are "Wrath of Kahn" and "Undiscovered Country". I have enjoyed seeing Shatner again in "Boston Legal" and with so many celebrities appearing in or guesting on that show, it's only a matter of time until fans see Shatner and Nimoy together again.
  Son of a Bith
The Cantina Corner
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 8:09 PM
Trek has lived long, but always prospered.;)

But...

With these new Hi-def releases and the new original crew movie directed by J.J. Abrams coming out in 08, I hope the franchise regains some steam. The revitalization of franchises thought to be worn out is the new thing these days ever since Batman Begins became a huge hit.
  Son of a Bith
The Cantina Corner
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 8:10 PM
Oops, I meant not always prospered.
jkthunder
Seven Pieces
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 9:14 PM
Meh. We're still hipper, but happy birthday anyway Star Trek. Ya old ####.
hansgirl3
Invoking the Squee
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 9:19 PM
I have always been a Trek fan, ever since I was a child watching the original series with my Dad! Loved it then, love it now!

I also love almost all of the movies, but Kahn and Voyage Home are my faves. WJ explained VH well and why I like it (except I like the whales also!). It is so much more light-hearted and Trek really needed that more humorous side!

Like you, Pablo, it took a couple of seasons for me to get into TNG, but I did, finally!

I didn't care for DS9, much, but I watched it some. Voyager, I liked quite a bit. Never watched Enterprise.

Live long and prosper! :)
eddie
Obsessive Fanboy Eddie and his Timeline Chronicles
date Posted: Sep 08, 2006 10:37 PM
Congrats Star Trek! Although I am a Star Wars fanatic myself, I do happen to love certain aspects of Star Trek! I too got hooked on the franchise since Wrath of Kahn in 1982, and have watched every single film and episodes of TNG since then. And regarding Enterprise, I found this a great, new series, a fresh wind blowing through the galaxy... In fact it is my fav among the ST-series, followed closely by TNG...

NarbFlick
Narb Flick Created Leffingites
date Posted: Sep 09, 2006 10:12 AM
Excellent subject for a post, Pablo!

What I find interesting is that in the mid-'90s, when interest in Star Wars was building and interest in Star Trek was first beginning to wane, the two franchises were represented by the same licensees in a number of cases . . . Galoob, Decipher, FANtastic Media, etc. And even though separate companies were publishing their books, it's clear that the Bantam program was very much modeled after Pocket Books' successful Star Trek line. I don't know if there was ever a time before or after when the two franchises were on such equal footing.
NarbFlick
Narb Flick Created Leffingites
date Posted: Sep 09, 2006 10:12 AM
The other interesting parallel I see between the two franchises is how Trek fandom split when The Next Generation first appeared, with the long-time purists unable to accept the "updating" of their beloved series for a modern-day audience. Kinda like when a certain movie with the words "Phantom" and "Menace" in the title first premiered.
Pabawan
Fragments from the Mind's Eye
date Posted: Sep 09, 2006 11:47 AM
What's also interesting is that, after 40 years, there's enough different flavors of Trek that it's hard to find someone who likes everything, but it's easy to find someone who likes some of it. And that's perfectly okay and reasonable and no one blinks.

Yet Star Wars is at the point where there's a lot of different kinds of SW and fans, yet there's still this conceptual difficulty with liking some of it and not all of it, that if you don't like the prequels, or the CW Cartoons, or the EU, you're a basher or purist or some other sort of label.

ph
  Wampa_Jedi
Jedi Wampa's Playhouse
date Posted: Sep 09, 2006 3:47 PM
Before I go to far into the following statement, I'll give the cavaet (sp?) that I haven't watched a LOT of Enterprise. Just a few episodes here and there, really....


That said, I do like the concept and at least parts of the execution. The concept of an actual military starship instead of a flying lab/embassy, I like that. The feel of the ship (much like the new Galactica, but that's another blog) is what I would imagine would actually be built by a military-minded force. It feels like a deep-space submarine.

Just my impression, at any rate....(but yeah, the theme song needed to go)
Rosiewook
Rosiewook's Tree House
date Posted: Sep 11, 2006 3:44 AM
I have watched Trek since I was literally 14 months old. My mother accidentally discovered that she could get one hour of peace if a Star Trek rerun was on. So I have a fondness for the original. But it has recently started showing its age to me. I'm curious to see whether or not the new digital effects will change things.

I think the more interesting Trek question is whether or not the franchise can be revitalized. Very good lessons on how NOT to manage a franchise. And good lessons for any show about not forgetting about the characters. Because, in the end, I think that's what has helped its decline.

Either way, big cheers for Trek!

And I'm going to try not to feel old, now....
  Captain Peabody
date Posted: Oct 23, 2006 5:39 PM
Happy Birthday! For me, everything through Deep Space Nine is good (sure, TOS is corny, but that's part of its charm:)); Voyager was okay (though I haven't really seen enough of it to judge), and Enterprise was just stupid.

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