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Padme's Legacy
by: padmeskywalker77
date posted: Apr 12, 2007 7:19 AM
Always an Apprentice...Never a Master
A little over a week ago, my friend Hansgirl3 wrote a wonderful entry about the final duel between Luke and Vader in ROTJ. In this, she discussed how Vader was protecting Luke from the same mistakes he had made...and how he was finally able to make that decision to break the chains of the Dark Side and return to the Light as Anakin. This got me to thinking about Anakin and his life...from the little boy on Tatooine to the grown Jedi Padawan to the Galactic Hero. In essence, he truly never had complete control over his life...he was, in some way, *always an Apprentice, but never a Master*. It took the love of his son, the product of the love between him and Padme', to make him realize that he could, essentially, control his destiny...and become a Master of his life.

As a slave on Tatooine, Anakin had little control over his life...he answered to Watto, or whoever was his Master at the time. When Qui-Gon, Padme' and crew embarked on the desolate planet, hope for a better life for him was a possibility. Although he "won" his freedom in the podrace, the choice to leave was never fully his, as he thought he did what was right for both him and his mother. Once permission was granted for Obi-Wan to train him, Anakin was, once again, a "slave" of sorts...he was a Jedi Padawan, swearing an oath to serve and protect the galaxy, being apprenticed to a Jedi Knight for his training. For years Anakin trained under Obi-Wan, waiting for the day he could face the trials and become a Knight...a Jedi with a little more freedom. However, the Jedi Council had the final say in whether and when he would achieve this status, so it was another "waiting game." Finally, the day came when he was granted Knighthood.

Although he reached Knighthood, Anakin wanted nothing more than to become a Master...an honor of which he felt he deserved. It was another "waiting game" with the Council, and Anakin became impatient...especially after he learned that there was a way to save Padme'. Sadly the information was restricted to those with Master status. Then, Palpatine "pounced" on a vulnerable Anakin, offering the promise of preventing death...but only through learning the ways of the Dark Side.

This promise of *more* just lured Anakin further toward the Dark...until he finally gave in and said *I pledge myself to your teachings.* Again, Anakin became an apprentice...just when he was so close to obtaining Master status with the Jedi. Now, however, he would find it more difficult to be a Master of the Dark...not with Palps in power/control. He realized that he was completely dependent on Palps for survival and there was nothing he could do. Hope was lost...until Luke reappeared in his life.

Luke...a symbol of hope, of love, of a life thought lost long ago. The wall Vader built around the life that was Anakin began to crumble, and Anakin began to re-emerge. Although Vader said to Luke *it is too late for me, son,* he (Vader) must have realized that there may still be a glimmer of hope for him. When he saw his son going down the path he once did, Anakin could no longer stand back...he blocked Luke from striking down Palps and, therefore, from going down that dark path. When he witnessed Luke standing ground against Palps despite the "promise" of certain death, Anakin could not just stand by any longer and watch another part of him be destroyed. He resurfaced to save his son, a symbol of his love, and suffered in the process. Not all was lost, though...Anakin gained control of his life for the first time, and became his own *Master.*

Any thoughts? Hopefully I made some sense, as I have been up all night working. :p


Have a wonderful day...and May the Force Be With You All :x

amidalooine
The Emotional Galaxy
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 7:31 AM
Great entry, ps77! Glad I happened to be on here at just thr right time to catch it! :x

I think I wrote something along these lines once...not sure, lol (and too lazy to go check!). Anakin never had control of his own life. Never. He is the ultimate character of destiny...of fate...of serendipity...call it what you want. Everything that happened in his life was part of a larger plan to affect change in someone else, in something else. In some ways he's so powerful, yet in other ways, he's simply the power that moves everyone and everything else. It's part of why I feel so strongly that Anakin is a sympathetic character, even while the part of him that becomes Darth Vader is pure evil.
jediprincess77
I Know...
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 7:48 AM
Wow, fantastic entry, my friend!!!:x

Anakin could not just stand by any longer and watch another part of him be destroyed.
Wow, this line really got to me. It's like Vader finally recognized that Luke was part of his life. But not just any life. The part of his life when he was happy & loved...and was able to love. Letting Luke die would have been the quick & easy path, but he just couldn't do that this time. Vader finally faced the difficult truth and allowed this last connection to Anakin break through that "wall."

This was a wondeful entry!:x
  Kenobi-fan
The Jundland Wastes Journal
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 7:55 AM
Anakin gained control of his life for the first time, and became his own *Master.*
It is a battle we all fight at various levels throughout our lives...nice blog!



Anakin never had control of his own life. Never.
Ouch! Anakin might have looked like a tool at points in his life, but I never considered him to be one. He, like those around him, had situations they needed to respond to...Anakin CHOSE the power of the fist rather than the power of the heart to confront these trials IMO. He had examples on both sides of the scale to side with.
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 7:56 AM
Great entry, ps77! Glad I happened to be on here at just thr right time to catch it!

Thanks Ami :x And you really were here at the right time ;)

Everything that happened in his life was part of a larger plan to affect change in someone else, in something else...

So true...it's like everything was planned for him from the very beginning. No wonder he felt so lost...he didn't really know who he was or what it was he wanted. Thanks :)
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 7:58 AM
It's like Vader finally recognized that Luke was part of his life. But not just any life. The part of his life when he was happy & loved...and was able to love.

That is so powerful, JP77...and so true. It's like something came to life again. Thank you, milady :x

It is a battle we all fight at various levels throughout our lives...nice blog!

Thanks K-fan :) This is so true. It is a battle we do not always win...but we try really hard.
  rj_peters
Memos from the Imperial Finance Department
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 8:06 AM
Some really good points here. I think I agree with K-fan, that Anakin had the opportunity to take control. He didn't do it, for whatever reason, and therefore always felt like he didn't have control. There was some level of self-fulfilling prophecy in all of that. He never thought he had control, so he never actually did.
viagoangel2
Were Anakin and Padme' really one?
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 8:39 AM
Luke...a symbol of hope, of love, of a life thought lost long ago. Right on, Gurly! "Beneath the mask, is a shattered man; a tormented soul....Haunted by whispers of a Love that once was his brightest secret." On the surface he is nothing more than a sinister figure that ignites an essence of fear and dred in all that await his acsent. Until Luke, that is, then all he had that he lost, all that he had desolated, revives his soul and extinguishes the darkness.

Beautiful entry, M'lady! Love it!:x ((((HUGS)))

Sweet Dreams, M'wah
anakinside1
Echoes from the Asteroid Field
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 8:47 AM
*always an Apprentice, but never a Master*

....and he always had to spend money on ugly dresses he could never wear any place else. That would be enough to drive me to the dark side too! :D

But seriously, I think that you are really right on with this. I agree that Anakin did make certain choices that took him towards the darkness, but it is also true that he had some very deeply ingrained patterns from childhood about submitting to authority that he never broke until that last moment when he saves Luke.

Great entry!!! :x
Darth_Hiram
A Journey into The Force
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 9:39 AM
Good entry! I also wrote something similar ... IMO he truly gained mastery over himself and his life when he saved Luke. He took hold of his destiny that he was meant to follow ... the darkside was only part of that destiny for a while.
  vadersgirl33
vadersgirl_reflections
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 10:02 AM
Great entry, ps77! I have to agree- Anakin never had contol. He never learned to control his destiny until the very end- while watching his son and Palpatine. Then he finally realized he could change things and become his OWN MASTER! Great thoughts!

vadersgirl33
nob01
Oil Bath Bubbles
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 10:05 AM
*always an Apprentice, but never a Master*
Very true! (Discounting the EU ideas of Vader taking on his own apprentices)
I love the idea of someone always hankering for more power, but always being held back in their quest for it through their own actions!
MomOf2YoungPadawan
Mamadala's Lair
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 12:09 PM
Nicely written - very poetic :)

I must agree with K-Fan on this one, though: Anakin CHOSE the power of the fist rather than the power of the heart to confront these trials

This is one of the big things I see happening as a teacher - everyone likes to try and lay blame for their poor decisions on their circumstances. To an extent, this can have an effect on making good vs. poor choices, but we all have to take responsibility for our actions at some point. To say that Anakin was never in control is enabling, IMHO.
MomOf2YoungPadawan
Mamadala's Lair
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 12:10 PM


Thankfully, though, at the end of his broken life, Anakin did finally see that his actions were indeed damaging and chose to leave a positive legacy for Luke. Thank the Maker that Luke was strong enough to pull that good out of his father!

always an Apprentice, but never a Master Is that like "always a bridesmaid, never a bride?!?" LOL!! :^O

Great read - you forced me to think extra hard today!! ;)
Jedi Master Mina
Another Galaxy, another time
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 2:30 PM
...and he always had to spend money on ugly dresses he could never wear any place else. That would be enough to drive me to the dark side too!

always an Apprentice, but never a Master Is that like "always a bridesmaid, never a bride?!?" LOL!!


So, I'm reading this LONG, heavy hearted blog, only to get interrupted with these funny ### comments. Now, how the hell do you expect me, muah Queen, to respond after reading this? :^O

On a serious note, I agree with Kfan and with you too. ;)

Great blog, girly. ;)
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 2:33 PM
Anakin had the opportunity to take control. He didn't do it, for whatever reason, and therefore always felt like he didn't have control

I do not disagree that Anakin had the opportunity to take control of things...but, like us, he needed guidance in working through things. This was something the Old Jedi Order was unable to provide, although Obi-Wan did try his hardest to help.

Beautiful entry, M'lady!

Thanks angel :x He truly was a shattered and tormented soul. It took the reminder of love to help piece that soul together again, helping him to remember what was once lost.
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 2:42 PM
Anakin had the opportunity to take control. He didn't do it, for whatever reason, and therefore always felt like he didn't have control

I do not disagree that Anakin had the opportunity to take control of things...but, like us, he needed guidance in working through things. This was something the Old Jedi Order was unable to provide, although Obi-Wan did try his hardest to help.

Beautiful entry, M'lady!

Thanks angel :x He truly was a shattered and tormented soul. It took the reminder of love to help piece that soul together again, helping him to remember what was once lost.
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 2:47 PM
He took hold of his destiny that he was meant to follow ... the darkside was only part of that destiny for a while

Thanks DH :) It seems we all must undergo a darkness of sorts to be able to grow. Hopefully most of us do not experience the depth of darkness that Anakin did.

I love the idea of someone always hankering for more power, but always being held back in their quest for it through their own actions!

Thanks nob!! That's a great way of saying it. Although Anakin believed that is was Obi-Wan holding him back from gaining more power and rank amongst the Jedi, it may actually have been his own actions contributing to that. Hmmm...meditate more on this, I will B-)
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 2:50 PM
He never learned to control his destiny until the very end- while watching his son and Palpatine. Then he finally realized he could change things and become his OWN MASTER

Again...a major point that I was trying to convey. Although Anakin made his choices, he really was not given the guidance needed to help in making those decisions. He was torn between his duty and love for the Jedi and his love for Padme'. He did not think he could change the outcome...until Luke. Thanks VG :)

Is that like "always a bridesmaid, never a bride?!?"

That's exactly what I was thinking when I named it :D

Great read - you forced me to think extra hard today!!

My work here is done ;)
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 2:57 PM
everyone likes to try and lay blame for their poor decisions on their circumstances.

Oh I agree, and it truly does have a profound effect on our ability to make good vs. poor choices. I never said he wasn't in control of his life/destiny...he just was not given the proper guidance to make said decisions.

Thank the Maker that Luke was strong enough to pull that good out of his father!

Yes...*Thank the Maker* :D

It wasn't that long :( ;)

Now, how the hell do you expect me, muah Queen, to respond after reading this?

Trust me, I lost focus, too :)

Great blog, girly.

Thanks, master :)
The Stooge
Star Wars Joke-A-Day
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 3:08 PM
Intriguing thoughts... maybe Vader even believed that being a Sith apprentice was bigger and better than being a Master Jedi. After all, he did tell Obi-Wan that "now I am the master."
  brooklooineghost
Just a simple mom trying to make my way in the (expanded) universe
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 4:48 PM
maybe Vader even believed that being a Sith apprentice was bigger and better than being a Master Jedi

maybe that's what he told himself, just to give himself a reason to hate the jedi even more, justofy who he had become . . .

As always, I love the way you've expressed such heavy stuff so eloquently. This is why i BAWL when I see the digitally remastered Anakin at the end of ROTJ - he may have screwed just about everything up, but when he finally decided to take control of his choices himself, he made the most important decision of all.

(*sniff*) Drat - where is my kleenex!!!
  Michelle1968
M68- Star Wars Kid at Heart
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 4:55 PM
Oooo, good point Stoogie.

You know, I'm sympathetic toward Anakin for all he went through... I really am. There is not one of us that could say with certainty that we'd had done anything differently. In life we are dealt a hand and make the best choices that we can, and often we do so for the ones we love. I try to go by the saying, "Don't judge the Indian until you've walked a mile in his moccasins." And another saying that reminds me of Anakin was one my grandmother used to say, rest her soul, "the last mile is the one that counts".

Great entry sweetie! Lot a love!
hansgirl3
Invoking the Squee
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 5:20 PM
Anakin could not just stand by any longer and watch another part of him be destroyed. He resurfaced to save his son, a symbol of his love, and suffered in the process.

Absolutely moving statement to conclude a fantastic blog (as always)!

You make excellent points, most of which I agree with. I do, though, agree that Anakin had choices to make and made the wrong ones, especially concerning his "enslavement" of later years.

Thanks so much for the shout-out! :x
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 5:35 PM
maybe Vader even believed that being a Sith apprentice was bigger and better than being a Master Jedi

Very interesting point, Stooge. Hmmm...all that promise of great power, power the Jedi could not provide.

As always, I love the way you've expressed such heavy stuff so eloquently.

You're too kind :8} I wrote this after working all night...so I'm surprised I made any sense at all ;)

he may have screwed just about everything up, but when he finally decided to take control of his choices himself, he made the most important decision of all.

I love the way you said that...wonderful summation of everything. Sorry you needed some Kleenex ...
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 5:53 PM
I do, though, agree that Anakin had choices to make and made the wrong ones, especially concerning his "enslavement" of later years.

He did make his choices...choices he thought were right at the time...choi

Thanks so much for the shout-out!


No problem...that entry really did inspire my thoughts :x
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 5:54 PM
I do, though, agree that Anakin had choices to make and made the wrong ones, especially concerning his "enslavement" of later years.

He did make his choices...choices he thought were right at the time...choices he paid dearly for in the end. Thank goodness Luke was there to help him realize his mistakes :)

Thanks so much for the shout-out!

No problem...that entry really did inspire my thoughts :x
GalacticBabe
I Have a Bad Feeling About This!
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 6:46 PM
Wow! This is a great entry!

Anakin was, once again, a "slave" of sorts... He was also, in a sense, a slave to his own heart, after he met Padmé.

Once again, someone has come up with something I should have thought of sooner! I used to pride myself in being the see-all, know-all guru of Star Wars, but **pft** You have certainly "out-gurued me"! :p

And all this after working all night! You are my hero!:)
Darth Abrams
The Ace in the Hole
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 6:52 PM
That all sounds good to me. Although there's one thing I can't figure out. If Vader wanted to prevent Luke from turning to the dark side by stopping him from striking down the emperor, then why did he tell Luke he would try to turn his sister. That was pretty much the same tactic used by Sidious to lure Anakin, by using the ones you love as a tool to turn someone. And it seemed to work on Luke as well, at least until he came to his senses after defeating Vader.
  darth maul517
Darth Jedi Maul Secura
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 8:15 PM
Fantastic entry!!!!

Anakin was a victim of circumstance. However he was not without fault. He wanted absolute control that he endedup getting little to none control, like you stated. In the end his greatest battle was with his own emotions. His own soul.
JediMelindaWolf
Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
date Posted: Apr 12, 2007 9:08 PM
Hopefully I made some sense. . .

You made a great deal of sense, ps77, as you always do! :)

Sometimes it takes so long for us to see what always was right there in front of us all along. I think that's what happened with Anakin/DV when he witnessed the cruelty his son was facing at the hands of Palpatine. As he witness the way the lightning was contorting Luke's body, DV/Anakin finally realized that the hatred and darkness with which he had lived for so long had consumed his own body, his own psyche, his own heart.

Luke brought Anakin back, even though it meant his own death. The love Luke brought back to Anakin made the sacrifice worth it.

Great entry!

MTFBWY :)
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Apr 13, 2007 10:34 AM
He was also, in a sense, a slave to his own heart, after he met Padmé.

Ooooo....I like that. I had not thought of this in that way. Great observation :) And see...you out-gurued me there ;)

And all this after working all night! You are my hero!

See how the mind of a night-shifter works? Scary, huh? :p

Although there's one thing I can't figure out...

I think that is something we all have been trying to figure out. To me, Vader was still predominating over Anakin during this time...taunting Luke into giving in to his aggression. So much emotion was flowing through this scene, and testing Luke's reaction was just part of the whole scheme of things. Or, it could be something completely different ;)
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Apr 13, 2007 10:38 AM
In the end his greatest battle was with his own emotions. His own soul.

I like that statement. Anakin was definitely not without his faults...just as the Jedi Order was not without fault. To lose control of everything is something that happens. How one works through that is as individual as those who experience it. In the end, the good part of Anakin won out...and thank goodness. Thanks DM517 :)

Sometimes it takes so long for us to see what always was right there in front of us all along.

Wonderful statement, JMW!! So true in so many ways. Thank you :)
ewanandhaydenfan5
I Have You Now!
date Posted: Apr 13, 2007 10:39 AM
Interesting thoughts, PS77!

Anakin CHOSE the power of the fist rather than the power of the heart to confront these trials
I agree; Anakin had control to the point that he did make the choice to turn to the dark side. But as it can be with difficult choices, especially for someone like Anakin, with a slave's background, and whose emotions and loyalties ran so deep, it seemed as if there wasn't really a choice, a no-brainer.
JediPug1
Like My Father Before Me
date Posted: Apr 13, 2007 11:21 AM
Luke...a symbol of hope, of love, of a life thought lost long ago.

Well, I always thought so.... :x


Although Vader said to Luke *it is too late for me, son,* he (Vader) must have realized that there may still be a glimmer of hope for him.

Saddest line in the whole saga...... :_|

Anakin could no longer stand back...he blocked Luke from striking down Palps and, therefore, from going down that dark path.

Excellent! B-)

Great entry PS77!!!!
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Apr 13, 2007 11:43 AM
But as it can be with difficult choices, especially for someone like Anakin, with a slave's background, and whose emotions and loyalties ran so deep, it seemed as if there wasn't really a choice, a no-brainer.

His loyalties really ran deep, didn't they. By the time of the fall of the Old Republic, he was torn between his love and loyalty to Padme' and their unborn child(ren), his loyalty to the Jedi, his loyalty to the Republic, and his loyalty to Palpatine. No wonder he felt lost and confused. Thanks E&HF5 :)

Saddest line in the whole saga......

It tears at my heart, too.

Great entry PS77!!!!

Thanks pug lover :x
  Senator Soph-ia
date Posted: Apr 17, 2007 3:06 PM
Beautifully stated, PS77!

I love how the "master of his own life" line of thinking. So simple and fairly obvious -- but it never spoke to me that way. You saw clearly what others of us have complicated.

Bravo! Here's hoping we all be come "masters."
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Apr 17, 2007 5:11 PM
Hey there Soph!! :)

I love how the "master of his own life" line of thinking

A simple, yet powerful thought. It took a while, but it finally came to me :)

Here's hoping we all be come "masters."


Amen to that!! :x
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