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Padme's Legacy
by: padmeskywalker77
date posted: Nov 29, 2007 5:39 AM
Dark and Difficult Times Lie Ahead...Advice from an Old...Wizard?
Hello everyone in blogsville. I realized last week when I was writing my entry summarizing my trip to Chicago to see the Where Science Meets Imagination exhibit that it had been quite some time since I had written an entry not related to a trip, event, or costuming experience. In other words, I have not written an entry related to my thoughts and ponderings on the Star Wars universe since sometime before Celebration IV. :O

I have been thinking about this entry for some time now, having started writing it at one point but stopping completely because I did not like the direction it was taking. So, I took a break from it...a longer-than-expected break at that...and decided that it was now time to give this another try.

Several months back, I was watching the movie Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, when a line spoken by Dumbledore to Harry struck me as so very appropriate to the Prequel era of our beloved saga. It really got me to thinking how things would have turned out differently if Obi-Wan had uttered these words to Anakin...how the GFFA would have fared had Anakin listened to Obi-Wan instead of what to his own thoughts/fears and to Palpatine.

By now you are probably wondering to which line I am referring. Well, this line would be...**Dark and difficult times lie ahead. Soon we must all choose between what is right and what is easy**. Kind of chilling, huh? The first several times I saw Goblet of Fire, I paid little attention to this particular line. For some reason, this one time I noticed the line and was struck with the idea to put it in a blog...and have struggled with it since. :^O

I am not going to get into the nitty-gritty details of the Harry Potter series, but those of us who know the story know what path he chose...he chose to fight, to take the more difficult road. He trusted Dumbledore to help him down the right path to do what must be done.

The same cannot be said for Anakin, however :( ...he chose the easier, more seductive path of the Dark Side. For some reason he did not fully trust Obi-Wan, or himself for that matter, to guide him through these difficult times...he decided to listen to his fears and the promises Palpatine made to him. He let his fears and insecurities take over his rationality to the point he refused to stay patient long enough to accomplish his goals/desires the *right* way...the Jedi way.

At the same time Anakin was engulfed in his personal turmoil, the galaxy was undergoing a turmoil of its own...created by none other than Palpatine himself. Residents of the GFFA were looking to their leader for guidance, trusting in his judgment. Only a few select Senators, including Padmé, were willing to fight for Democracy, for a peaceful resolution to the war. The others, however, were willing to go along with whatever Palpatine decided was best for the galaxy...and we all know where that got them ]:)

They (the Senators), like Anakin, were willing to take the quick and easy path, with the gravest of results: the dark times had arrived and would engulf the galaxy for the next twenty-plus years. Luckily, Luke, one of two beacons of hope for the galaxy, was able to overcome his temptations and turned the tide back to the Light and saved the galaxy from those dark and difficult times. :x

Like our heroes from the GFFA, we all face dark and difficult times at various points in our lives. Sometimes we take the more difficult route and work through them, while at other times we may take the easier route and give in to the temptation. If these easier routes lead us further down that dark path, we hopefully are able to overcome this, learn from our choices/mistakes, and use the lessons from these experiences the next time we are faced with a difficult situation. Sometimes we can work through these situations ourselves, but, most of the time we need support and guidance from mentors and friends. Maybe that is why Luke was successful where Anakin was not...the strong presence of mentors and friends. At least that is what I like to think. :)

Would things have turned out differently in the GFFA had Anakin taken the time to listen to what Obi-Wan, Yoda, and the others had to say rather than giving in to his fears/insecurities and the promises uttered by Palpatine? If Anakin had had a mentor he truly trusted, as Harry did, would darkness have enveloped the galaxy for two decades? I tend to think things would have been greatly different...in many ways.

However, I want to hear what you all have to think about this before I reveal my thoughts...would things have been different; how would things have been different? Does having a good/strong mentor and great friends help one to overcome the difficult times, the darkness?

I hope everyone is having a safe and happy Holiday season so far. I look forward to reading about what you all have to say :)

May the Force Be With You...Always:x

DJ Maul: Got Feet?
DJ Maul's Dancin' Cantina Party
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 5:46 AM
well worth the wait my dear, excellent thoughts.

Anakin was manipulated all his life, by not just Palpatine but the Jedi as well and yes even his "mentor" Obi Wan consented to USING Anakin for the "Greater Good" which was a major mistake of course because, as you pointed out, Anakin no longer TRUSTED him.

But in the end, Anakins choice was his own, same as with all of us. Its so EASY to blame our choices, and our MISTAKES, on someone else, but in the end its all about Personal Responsibility....we have no one to blame but ourselves if we are unhappy in life.

great blog. :)
Darth_Hiram
A Journey into The Force
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 9:22 AM
Great entry, ps77. I think Anakin did feel quite alienated by Ep III and was looking to latch onto whatever help came his way ... mostly in the form of Palpatine. The Jedi were not accomdating to him at all, in his eyes. But as deej points out ... he did make the decision himself. He acted of his own accord through fear and not taking the "high ground".

Dumbledore has the reverse effect of the Jedi to Anakin ... he is trustworthy and caring ... things Anakin didn't necessarily see in the Jedi. Dumbledore had a way of making those in his care really feel comfortable and helping to make things right. Harry can place his full trust in him.

again, great entry!:)
Sarlacc-Pitt
Slowly Digested Over A Thousand Blogs
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 9:57 AM
Excellent entry! :D

I feel that Palpatine was there for him, whereas the Jedi were not. Palpatine knew he could easily manipulate Anakin and pounce on his "outsider" feelings towards the Jedi. The Jedi manipulated Anakin, but they didn't do it in the way that Palpatine did... smoothly and intelligently, playing on his fears and telling him exactly what he wanted to hear. They did it much more coarsely and up-front. If only the Jedi had paid a bit more attention to Anakin, instead of just using him to make themselves look better, there would have been time to carefully work with him and deal with all of his problems.
Sarlacc-Pitt
Slowly Digested Over A Thousand Blogs
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 10:03 AM
Instead, they were more concerned with having Anakin spy on Palpatine for them and do their dirty work.... he was neglected. And he was the Chosen One! He was ill..... ill in his soul, and Palpatine caused him to become ill in his heart. He saw a weakness and he exploited it. The Jedi saw that weakness, and didn't jump on it right away and deaI with the problem. I personally would not blame an ill person for their mistakes.... especially if they sought help and were terribly let down. As Yoda said, "Failed, I have." Indeed.
  Kenobi-fan
The Jundland Wastes Journal
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 10:24 AM
Asking whether or not a friend or mentor would make a difference is a difficult assessment to make in my estimation. With regard to Anakin, what he desired and what he feared, was never dealt with in any fashion other than fear and closed-mindedness. The Jedi Council, Padme, Obi-Wan, and others saw Anakin as something other than what he was: an agent of change, an agent of the Force itself.
  Kenobi-fan
The Jundland Wastes Journal
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 10:24 AM
Their judgements were based on fear and an old way of looking at life as it existed in and around the Republic. Anakin's existence was evidence of a fundamental change in the galaxy - no one allowed themselves to think of what that meant...except Qui-Gon. And I think what you have to ask yourself is: Had Qui-Gon lived, what would have become of Anakin and the Jedi Order???
MomOf2YoungPadawan
Mamadala's Lair
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 12:04 PM
Whew - this entry does indeed pose some weighty questions! It's obvious you really put a lot of thought into this one!

It's so difficult to judge the out come of something by just one factor. Of course, with Anakin, there were several factors at play, as I do believe there are for all of us at any given time in our lives.

Sometimes it is "more comfortable" to choose a certain path, simply because it poses less resistance (aaahhh, a physics lesson! ;) ) And sometimes that "easy" path is the least healthy, but not always. I just think Anakin's situation was a plethera of factors working against him, not just simply an "easy" vs. a "difficult" path.
MomOf2YoungPadawan
Mamadala's Lair
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 12:06 PM
Maturity, a good values system, good self-esteem, experience and love and support from others all play crucial roles in the decisions we make. Some people simply don't have these things. Does it excuse their actions if those actions are hurtful or injust? Certainly not, but it does help explain why some people do what they do.

I do agree w/Deej as well - personal responsibility takes the cake!

OK - my brain needs a rest, now!! :p Great entry, milady!! :x ...and I think I'll go have some cake! :D
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 12:55 PM
well worth the wait my dear, excellent thoughts

Well thank you Deej :)

Anakin was manipulated all his life...because, as you pointed out, Anakin no longer TRUSTED him.

So true. Anakin even said the following about Obi-Wan and the Jedi Order...**Obi-Wan and the Council don't TRUST me**. He did not trust them and he believed that they did not trust him. Powerful concept there.

we have no one to blame but ourselves if we are unhappy in life.


Again...so true. Ultimately, we make the final decision...nobody else.

Thanks for stopping by :)
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 1:02 PM
I think Anakin did feel quite alienated by Ep III and was looking to latch onto whatever help came his way ...

Great points there, DH!! Anakin truly felt alienated by this time...and not just by the Jedi, but a bit by Padme' as well (as sad as that makes me to say that). He felt the only one he could turn to for help was Palpatine...someone who made lots of empty promises.

Dumbledore had a way of making those in his care really feel comfortable and helping to make things right


Ahhh...I had not thought of it that way, but it is so very true. Had Anakin felt that in the Jedi, maybe he would not have felt the need to turn to Palpatine.
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 1:11 PM
Hey there Pitt :)

You make so many great points, that I am having a difficult time picking any one or two things out ;) I agree...Palpatine did his "dirty work" very smoothly, playing on Anakin's fears and emotions and then "pouncing" at the right moment. The Jedi surely were not "empathetic" on any level...until Obi-Wan expressed his feelings toward Anakin at the end--way too late.

He was ill..... ill in his soul, and Palpatine caused him to become ill in his heart

That is a great way of saying it!! Anakin truly was ill because of all he had been through. Good ol' Palpy knew it, saw it, and exploited it.

Thanks for all of your input :)
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 1:25 PM
Hey there K-Fan :)

As always your thoughts are appreciated.

Asking whether or not a friend or mentor would make a difference is a difficult assessment to make in my estimation

That is true. I tend to go to others for support when I am facing difficult times...but the decision is ultimately mine to make, as with all of us. Using the lessons gained from past experiences sometimes helps more than seeking assistance from mentors and friends.

And I think what you have to ask yourself is: Had Qui-Gon lived, what would have become of Anakin and the Jedi Order???

Ooooo...I had not thought of that. I may have to think about that for a while ;)
Granny-Wan
I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 1:26 PM
**Dark and difficult times lie ahead. Soon we must all choose between what is right and what is easy**

In "Secrets of the Jedi" a young Obi-Wan and Siri Tachi fall in love. Qui-Gon and Yoda both encourage him to give her up rather then leave the Jedi. Yoda tells Obi-Wan that many Jedi Masters feel that dark times are ahead, and they will need him to be a Jedi. Qui-Gon tells him that he knows Obi-Wan would regret not being there to serve. And Obi-Wan takes the right path and gives her up. Anakin, on the other hand, does not have Obi-Wan's self discipline.

padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 1:34 PM
It's so difficult to judge the out come of something by just one factor. Of course, with Anakin, there were several factors at play, as I do believe there are for all of us at any given time in our lives.

Yes...I agree. In every situation anyone faces, several factors play a role in the outcome, and you list several great things that play into that.

I just think Anakin's situation was a plethera of factors working against him, not just simply an "easy" vs. a "difficult" path.

Great point...and I couldn't agree more :)

OK - my brain needs a rest, now!! Great entry, milady!! ...and I think I'll go have some cake!


Well thank you milady :x Enjoy your cake ;)
Granny-Wan
I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 1:35 PM
Was Anakin manipulated by the Jedi, or was he trained by the Jedi? He was manipulated by Palpatine into not trusting Obi-Wan... a Master and an apprentice should trust each other completely, and by undermining the relationship, Palpy made Anakin would listen to him instead of Obi-Wan....

If Anakin could have told Obi-Wan that he loved Padme, and that she was carrying his child, and he feared her death, don't you think Obi-Wan would have done everything he could to help him? But because of Palpy, Anakin wouldn't confide in his Master.... instead he tried to do it all himself and ended up causing a great disaster...



Granny-Wan
I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 1:37 PM
darn character limit.....!

I'm reminded of a cartoon I saw:
We don't need Obi-Wan's help, I'm perfectly capable of screwing things up on my own!


The Stooge
Star Wars Joke-A-Day
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 2:04 PM
Fascinating entry. The OT, in that light, is about the successful struggle against impossible odds... while the PT becomes a series of surrenders by the most powerful beings in the galaxy.
hansgirl3
Invoking the Squee
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 2:37 PM
I love this comparison of HP vs SW!!! Very cool!

I agree so many points by you and others, I don't even know where to begin... ;)

Had Qui-Gon lived, what would have become of Anakin and the Jedi Order???

I've thought about this one on many occassions. I don't know why I've never blogged about it. Hmmm.... You gonna?

Excellent entry!!!
:x
GalacticBabe
I Have a Bad Feeling About This!
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 2:58 PM
Brava, my friend! I only had a brief moment to skim over this...........I'll delve into the meat of it later, when the house noise is down to a dull roar.:D
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 3:24 PM
In "Secrets of the Jedi"...

Oooo...very interesting there, Granny-Wan. I have not read that book, but I had known about Obi-Wan and Siri. That is very intriguing what Yoda said about feeling the rise of the Dark Side. I just may have to check that out :)

But because of Palpy, Anakin wouldn't confide in his Master.... instead he tried to do it all himself and ended up causing a great disaster...

Yet another reason not to trust someone who quickly takes you under their wing ;)

I'm reminded of a cartoon I saw:

HaHaHaHaHa...I love that one!!!! :^O
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 3:30 PM
The OT, in that light, is about the successful struggle against impossible odds... while the PT becomes a series of surrenders by the most powerful beings in the galaxy.

Ooooo...I like the way you put that, Stooge!! Thanks :)

I love this comparison of HP vs SW!!! Very cool!

Isn't it, though? ;) I just love when I can find connections between one thing and our beloved saga :D

I don't know why I've never blogged about it. Hmmm.... You gonna?

Hmm...considering how long it took me to do this one, probably not :^O It would be interesting, though :)

Thanks HG3 :x

I'll delve into the meat of it later...

:^O Take your time...there's plenty of room left ;) I'll check back later :D
JediPug1
Like My Father Before Me
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 7:01 PM
Wide is the path that leads to damnation.... Choosing the "road less travelled," the narrow, overgrown path, is much tougher, but through the hard work, the scrapes, bruises and the occasional wrong turn we find our salvation. Anakin did indeed choose the wider path. It was quick, easy and well trod by the Sith that went before him. We all saw it lead to his damnation, too. Thankfully, at the very end, Anakin turned onto the narrow path and fulfilled his destiny and saved his son, and himself, in the process.

I've always loved that line from HP... I remember it was in the teaser trailer at the very end. You did a fine job of incorporating it into this entry! Well done!

:x :x B-)
  Ewokfett
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 8:12 PM
Nice thoughts here. A pretty good read I must say.
Hope to see more in the future.
Michelle1968
M68- Star Wars Kid at Heart
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 8:14 PM
Wow, great entry sweetheart. :x

I think that friends/ mentors do have an impact on most of us, as far as decisions/ paths we make/ take, but I also believe that so many other factors are already in place and that sometimes we choose who to listen to, based on whats happening inside, ya know?

so.....

"The decision is yours and yours alone."

Awesome blog babes. :D
amidalooine
The Emotional Galaxy
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 8:44 PM
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice entry, PS77! :x

OK...I only skimmed the comments, but please allow me to do what I'm sure amounts to playing the Devil's Advocate! :D

Why is the Jedi way the "hard" way, the "right" way, and the Dark Side's way the "easy" way? What's so easy about loving so much that you'd do anything for that love? What is selfish about it? (why does this keep coming up in excellent blog entries??!! :D) I don't think there is anything particularly easy about the path Anakin chose, and it certainly wasn't easy for Anakin to be forced to hide the very natural love he felt.

amidalooine
The Emotional Galaxy
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 8:46 PM
It's too easy to lose sight of the fact that what the pre-Order 66 Jedi were doing was wrong. It didn't work. It led to the destruction of the Jedi order as sure as anything the Sith did. The Jedi detached themselves from the world they vowed to serve to the point of losing touch with it, allowing the Sith to take control.

As for mentors and friends, I definitely think that a good mentor and amazing friends would have made all the difference to Anakin. Unfortunately, Anakin had neither. The Jedi Council was too caught up in its own arrogance, and Obi-wan was blinded by the duties he thought he had to adhere to. Obi-wan let blind obedience stand in the way of what was right.

Amazing friends mean the world to me. :x :x :x
Michelle1968
M68- Star Wars Kid at Heart
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 9:23 PM
Why is the Jedi way the "hard" way, the "right" way, and the Dark Side's way the "easy" way? What's so easy about loving so much that you'd do anything for that love? What is selfish about it? (why does this keep coming up in excellent blog entries??!! ) I don't think there is anything particularly easy about the path Anakin chose, and it certainly wasn't easy for Anakin to be forced to hide the very natural love he felt.

Floored.

Sis reads my mind once more.... :x Love you.....
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 11:03 PM
Anakin did indeed choose the wider path...Thankfully, at the very end, Anakin turned onto the narrow path and fulfilled his destiny and saved his son, and himself, in the process.

Very well put JP1. The way you said this really made sense...a bit of a twist on what I was trying to get across.

I've always loved that line from HP... I remember it was in the teaser trailer at the very end. You did a fine job of incorporating it into this entry! Well done!

Oh yes...I remember that now. Thanks milady :x

Nice thoughts here. A pretty good read I must say.
Hope to see more in the future.


Thanks :) I am hoping to start picking up and posting more, but only time will tell ;)
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 11:08 PM
I think that friends/ mentors do have an impact on most of us... but I also believe that so many other factors are already in place and that sometimes we choose who to listen to, based on whats happening inside, ya know?

I know exactly what you're saying :)

"The decision is yours and yours alone."
Awesome blog babes.


*sigh* Thanks sweetie :x

OK...I only skimmed the comments, but please allow me to do what I'm sure amounts to playing the Devil's Advocate!

No problem Ami...a Devil's Advocate is always needed ;)
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Nov 29, 2007 11:11 PM
I don't think there is anything particularly easy about the path Anakin chose, and it certainly wasn't easy for Anakin to be forced to hide the very natural love he felt.

I know it was not easy for him. The general view of the Jedi of the Old Republic during the OT era, namely Yoda, viewed the Dark Side as the easy path. Anakin surely did not have it easy by any means...during his life as a Jedi or during his life as Vader.

Amazing friends mean the world to me.

Same here...I definitely would not be the same without them!! :x :x :x
Cousin Itt
You don't know how to fix the hyperdrive...!
date Posted: Nov 30, 2007 5:38 AM
I feel that if Anakin had not turned to the dark side then Palpy may have either killed him (at least tried) or chosen another as his partner in Sith.

Strong friends and mentors DO influence decisions, as pointed out - Luke is testament to that! But DJ Maul is right in that WE are the ones that ultimately make the decisions whether we have been influenced by friends or mentors or not.

I went through a difficult patch at work 12 months ago and the quick and easy path would have been to leave, but no, my priorities changed because of personal circumstances and my new resolve allowed me to work my way through the problems - I'm glad I did now - it wasn't easy but it made me a stronger person than just taking the easy route.
Cousin Itt
You don't know how to fix the hyperdrive...!
date Posted: Nov 30, 2007 5:45 AM
Anakin had always been a loner, so had to find his own way and was very suspicious of everyone - he was strongly influenced by Palpy and did not have trust in anyone for him to find council elsewhere - he made a bad choice - he was, however, ultimately was responsible for this.

If Anakin had not turned to the dark side then there still would have still been a struggle, a war, Palpys ultimate goal would still have been there - with or without Anakin Order 66 would have been carried out - the Jedi would still have been threatened - there would still have been dark difficult times ahead no matter what Anakin decided.

Great thought provoking entry - with many parallels to what we all face on a daily basis.

Thank you.
Granny-Wan
I Am NOT an Old Fossil!
date Posted: Nov 30, 2007 4:36 PM
What's so easy about loving so much that you'd do anything for that love? What is selfish about it?

It becomes selfish when he traded thousands of lives for one... and he did it for himself, Padme would never have wanted that...remember what she said on Mustafar, "At what cost?"

(why does this keep coming up in excellent blog entries??!! :D

Because we're such darn good bloggers!
jediprincess77
I Don't Know Where You Get Your Delusions...
date Posted: Dec 01, 2007 5:40 AM
Sorry I'm late! But WOW. This is one great entry. Definitely has my gears turning...

I'm not a huge HP fan (I know, I know! Don't hate me. :D) but that line gave me chills when I read it. Although I can see things Ami's way (it hardly seemed there was anything easy about the path Anakin chose)....he certainly didn't imagine it would turn out as such. The dark side is deceptive & lead Anakin to think that the path he ended up taking would be easier and quicker. We all have the privilege of hindsight for him. His path was more difficult & had a round-a-bout way of reaching its end result, but I'm sure that wasn't a though in his mind...

jediprincess77
I Don't Know Where You Get Your Delusions...
date Posted: Dec 01, 2007 5:44 AM
I know *I* need strong mentors & friends...stronger than me. When I am caught in a situation there is hardly any way for me to step outside of it and see the "big picture." I need my trusted friends & mentors to put things into perspective, which sometimes includes opening my eyes to the danger ahead. Other times, it's just the opposite & I am encouraged to let loose. ;)

Excellent entry, my dear friend. :x I will probably be back later with more comments...hopefully there will be spaces left!
jedilily1026
Years Matter Not (Gone Crazy...Be Back Soon)
date Posted: Dec 01, 2007 11:07 AM
I'm late, I know...I have no excuse!!! It's hectic at work and can't take the time nor the chance of getting caught reading and I needed time to soak it in...blah, blah, blah. LOL

Does having a good/strong mentor and great friends help one to overcome the difficult times, the darkness?

Yes...the proof is everything I have overcome in the past 2 years with the help of SW.com and you my friend and my Spew Crew friends.

But Anakin never confided his problems to anyone...not even to Padme...you cannot help a person if you don't know what's going on with them. Anakin wanted to do everything himself and it's foolish to believe one can do it alone.

Great entry.

padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Dec 01, 2007 11:39 AM
Strong friends and mentors DO influence decisions, as pointed out - Luke is testament to that! But DJ Maul is right in that WE are the ones that ultimately make the decisions whether we have been influenced by friends or mentors or not.

So very true. I know I would not be where I am without my good friends and mentors. They do have a great influence in our lives, but, as you and several have said, we are responsible for the decisions we make.

Great thought provoking entry - with many parallels to what we all face on a daily basis.

Thank you :) Our beloved saga (as well as other movie series) truly does share many parallels to our daily lives.
padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: Dec 01, 2007 11:43 AM
Because we're such darn good bloggers!

I will second that!! :D

I'm not a huge HP fan (I know, I know! Don't hate me.


:O That's it...you're out ;) Nah...it's ok :)

The dark side is deceptive & lead Anakin to think that the path he ended up taking would be easier and quicker.

Ooooo...good catch there JP!! So true....the deception is there, he just needed to see that himself.

I need my trusted friends & mentors to put things into perspective, which sometimes includes opening my eyes to the danger ahead. Other times, it's just the opposite & I am encouraged to let loose

I hear you there...and I am preparing to do the latter today. Wish me luck :)
  Fish1941
date Posted: Dec 01, 2007 10:07 PM
Anakin was manipulated all his life, by not just Palpatine but the Jedi as well and yes even his "mentor" Obi Wan consented to USING Anakin for the "Greater Good" which was a major mistake of course because, as you pointed out, Anakin no longer TRUSTED him.

But in the end, Anakins choice was his own, same as with all of us. Its so EASY to blame our choices, and our MISTAKES, on someone else, but in the end its all about Personal Responsibility....we have no one to blame but ourselves if we are unhappy in life.


I agree.
anakinside1
Echoes from the Asteroid Field
date Posted: Dec 02, 2007 10:46 AM
Alright girl! Nice one. Now I don't think I'm going to be answering your specific question, but your blog made me think of another issue. And that is that mentors can only warn us of challenges they are aware of. I think Obi-Wan couldn't say "dark and difficult times lie ahead," in the same way Dumbledore could because when Dumbledore said that it was during the second rising of Voldemorte. The second time there was no underestimating what they were up against.

anakinside1
Echoes from the Asteroid Field
date Posted: Dec 02, 2007 10:46 AM
Luke's position would have been more like Harry's. There was no masking what the damage of the dark side could be he had the evidence of his fallen father before him constantly, and no one thought the Emperor was a good guy anymore. So, I guess the core of my point is, that Obi-Wan was, in some ways, as blindsided as Anakin by Palpatine in the Prequels. By the time the Jedi realized there might be some threat they were deep in a war and Palpatine was moments away from achieving his dream of unlimited power. But notice that when it's Luke's turn to face similar challenges Obi and Yoda work very differently with him.

Good work!! :)
  sirjedi7
date Posted: Dec 03, 2007 1:05 PM
Good blog, ps77!
Why does everybody always say Obi-Wan and the Council did such a horrible thing in asking Anakin to spy on Palpy? They were in the middle of a war, and Palpatine was a threat to the peace and security of the Republic. Sometimes you have to do things you wouldn't normally do to protect your country.
Everyone is always down on Obi and the Council, saying Anakin couldn't trust them. Anakin couldn't trust them because he didn't want to trust them. As someone pointed out, he didn't even trust Padme. He wanted to do things his own way. How can you help someone when they won't let you?
Don't worry jp77, I don't like HP at all. ;)
  Sarien Tanorr
date Posted: Dec 03, 2007 1:07 PM
The Dark Side is "easier" in the sense that it appears to be the most expeditious path to a desired goal. When that goal, for example, is to bring peace to the galaxy, then the individual faces two paths. One is to wrest absolute control of the galaxy so that the things you love (or at least value) are safe under your all-powerful wing.

Another is to pledge your abilities to defending those who otherwise cannot, but allow the galaxy (and those who inhabit it) to follow along their natural paths. This is often a hard pill to swallow, because it means that while you can protect your wife from an onslaught of battle droids and the powers of evil, you can't avoid the unfortunate occurrence of her death on the birthing table.