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date posted: Nov 03, 2005 7:57 AM  |  updated: Nov 03, 2005 10:50 AM
Entry # 5: The Importance of Darth Tyranus, Dark Lord of The Sith
Darth Maul had a wicked cool tattoo job, nasty bad-guy teeth and a double-blade Lightsaber. He could have been the poster child for the Sith Order. He is also one of the coolest bad guys ever. But he was no Darth Tyranus.

Many times I have seen blog entries that do nothing but poo-poo on Darth Tyranus. A lot of you think that he was unnecessary to the Star Wars movies, and that Darth Maul should have remained. Those of you who believe that could not be more wrong in your beliefs. In fact, Tyranus may be the most important person in regards to the annihilation of the Jedi Order.

Let us first look at Tyranus' history prior to the events in Episode I. Count Dooku was a powerful and well respected Jedi Master. He was trained in the ways of the Force by Master Yoda. Dooku, in turn, trained Qui-Gon Jinn, (another of my favorite characters whom does not get the respect he deserves). Qui-Gon trained Obi-Wan, who trained Anakin. It can be assumed that some of Dooku's Jedi traits were passed on to Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, and even the Chosen One. In fact, Dooku was so well revered within the Jedi Order, that his bust was placed in the Temple archives so that generations to come could look to Dooku as an example of a great Jedi. Then came his departure form the Jedi Order following the Battle of Naboo. This was a harsh blow to the Jedi. One of the greats had become disillusioned by the cause of the Jedi. Dooku felt the Jedi served a Republic that no longer functioned correctly and, based on his Jedi teachings, he felt he could not continue to do the same.

That brings us to Tyranus' induction into the Order of the Sith. Maul had been killed by Obi-Wan, and Palpatine did not have time to train a new infant as a Sith Lord. Instead he sought out Dooku. Dooku had always been intrigued by the dark side, even as a Jedi Padawan. By the time he left the Jedi, he was already powerful in the Force and an excellent swordsman. His thirst for power and desire to change the Republic made Sidious' job easy. All he had to do was promise Dooku that he would be a man of great stature in the New Order. To prove himself to Darth Sidious, Dooku was ordered to kill his long time friend, Jedi Master Syfo Dias. While still a member of the Jedi Order at this time, Dooku erased Kamino from the Temple archives and took over the process of ordering an army for the Republic; a task that was begun secretly by Syfo Dias. Thus was born Darth Tyranus.

Over the next decade, Tyranus spent his time sewing seeds of doubt throughout the galaxy. He used his political skill to sway many systems into believing that the Republic was corrupt and became the figure head of the Separatist Movement. Darth Maul would never have been able to accomplish this. Maul did not have the charismatic attitude it took to promise protection from the Republic or to make people believe that they would have control over a new from of government. I'm not saying Maul would not have been able to gain support for the Separatist Movement, but he would have done it out of fear. His motives were pure hatred, whereas Tyranus' were a lust for power and control. (Look at their names: Maul means to injure greatly, Tyranus has a stem word of tyrant which means oppressive ruler or one who reigns) Tyranus was eventually able to convince planets to see his point of view. Maul would have killed people until they had no choice but to give in to him out of fear for their lives. Tyranus wanted to rule the galaxy and knew that if he had simply killed everyone, there would be no one to rule over. Sidious knew Dooku was the clear choice for a political leader. Once he had enough support, Tyranus pushed his follower to secede form the Republic.

Our next stop; the Clone Wars. In my opinion the Clone Wars were, for all intents and purposes, a Purge on the Jedi Order. For three years, the Republic fought the Separatists, using the Jedi as generals in the Grand Army. Many Jedi became one with the Force during this time, which is exactly what Sidious wanted since he was controlling both sides anyway. This ultimately left fewer Jedi to deal with when Anakin made his turn and Order 66 was initiated.

Darth Sidious' ultimate goal was galactic conquest and the destruction of the Jedi. As I have stated above, none of this would have been possible if Tyranus had not been around. He was the voice of the Separatist Movement and his war made it possible to do away with the Jedi. In closing, Maul was truly one bad mother, but it is quite plain to see that he was no Darth Tyranus.

May the Force be with you!

The Primordial Jedi

  JediKapit
StealthX
date Posted: Nov 03, 2005 9:55 AM
exactly! thank you for that! i too am tired of people who think maul should've lived and so on

also, i hate to nitpick, but the bust of dooku is only there because he's one of the lost twenty
  Primodial Jedi
The Primordial Jedi's Archives
date Posted: Nov 03, 2005 10:49 AM
If Dooku's bust is only there because he is one of the Lost Twenty, then why do Yoda and Saesee Tiin have there busts in the Archives as well? Ah, it would seem I was indeed correct!
  mytuk03
The Balance of the Force
date Posted: Nov 03, 2005 10:50 AM
Ok a lot of your points are not proven facts from the films, which are the only canon facts to me. I agree that Maul would not have been able to recruit systems for the seperatists, but Sidious could have, like he did anyway, and Maul could still be in charge, much the way Grievous was. I'm sure he didn't recruit people. It's not that I don't like the character of Dooku, I just don't think he should have been a sith. He could still do everything he does for the seperatists and the war with out being the sith.
  mytuk03
The Balance of the Force
date Posted: Nov 03, 2005 10:50 AM
(cont) I understand that if Maul had lived it would have changed the story some, and I'm not really saying that is what I want, but if Maul had survived I do think it is a possibility. Dooku still could have been a character and his training all the way donw to anakin still could have been there and if it wasn't, because he wasn't a character, then oh well, it doesn't do anything for the story. Obi Wan didn't really hae to kill Maul, to me it would have also made sense if he became a Jedi, just by surviving Maul. (cont)
  mytuk03
The Balance of the Force
date Posted: Nov 03, 2005 10:51 AM
(cont)To me it seems if Maul lived it would have followed the OT better. Maul would be the Sith apprentice through all 3, to Sidious the Sith master. The first film in the trilogy has there new Villian, Vader, and Maul, the second films add there new villians, Dooku (or Jango), and Boba Fett, and the third has theres, Jabba(or the emperor), and Grievous. And tome it would have showed how interested Palpatine was in Anakin if he was willing to let him kill his apprentice of so laong, and all three films. Plus Maul vs Anakin would have been sweet, and of course Maul vs Yoda, would have been the best. Those are just my thoughts
Zolev
Welcome to my world
date Posted: Nov 03, 2005 12:03 PM
Very interesting blog, and i gotta say, makes a lot of sense..characters in the star wars movie arent mostly just there, they have a purpose, and specially with a big character like Tyranus... i think u naled the nail the head as to his importance.
  PadawanQui-GonJoe
The History of the Jedi Knights
date Posted: Nov 03, 2005 12:31 PM
I like the Blog Very Much! I am also a fan of Maul and as well as Qui-Jinn, However, Your blog gives mine a little more muscle. I truely beleive that in the early stages of Sidious plan. Darth Sidious was working with Two(2) Apprentices. Darth Maul was the Assasin and Darth Tyranus. was the political evil. I also beleive Master Syfo-Dyas was at least a Dark Apprentice of Sidious, and Dooku accepting the order to kill him was his turning point to the darkside. There was no question of Dookus' importance to the Greater Plan. Had Darth Maul lived, we would have seen the two Sith Apprentices working together. Darth Maul as the Strong hand and Darth Tyranus, as the mouth, and the mind of the deception.
  Fish1941
date Posted: Dec 19, 2006 4:07 PM
I completely agree with you. I don't think that Maul had what it took to lead the Separatist movement against the Republic. And I don't think that Maul could have done it merely using fear. It took someone of great charisma and political know how to lead the Separatists. Sidious could not have done, while playing out his role as Chancellor of the Republic. Dooku was the right man for the job . . . at the right time.
  Fish1941
date Posted: Dec 19, 2006 4:09 PM
Had Darth Maul lived, we would have seen the two Sith Apprentices working together. Darth Maul as the Strong hand and Darth Tyranus, as the mouth, and the mind of the deception.


I don't think there would have been two Sith apprentices. Either one would have to be subservient to the other. Maul was already an established apprentice to Sidious. I cannot see him willing to take a back seat to Dooku between TPM and AOTC.
  DarthRobIII
date Posted: Sep 14, 2007 1:46 AM
i think you are right. maul wasn't capable of doing the same that dooku did.
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