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 | Darkness in the White House! |
I'm always hesitant to write about politics, but I couldn't let this go!
In previous blogs, our president has been compared to Sidious. Now, in light of the recent shooting incident involving the Vice President, it is becoming apparent that Siths ARE INDEED prevalent in the White House!
I refer you to this MSN article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11436302/site/newsweek/, specifically a quote from page 2, referring to Mr. Cheney: "He is caricatured as a Darth Vader, spooky, above the law; nefarious". According to the article, the characteristics attributed to our V.P. are emotionally guarded and secretive, and he is apparently not so power-hungry as to attempt to be after his superior's job. But as we all well know, appearances can be deceiving! 
Now, I don't want to instigate a blog confrontation; I'm not stating my personal political opinions, nor am I advocating one politician over another. It's just that this is the first administration I can recall that keeps being compared to the Sith. I'd actually get a kick out of it, if the comparisons weren't so darn scary!! 
Please feel free to comment. I know this could turn into a political discussion, so let's keep it civil, thanks!
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Son of a Bith
The Cantina Corner
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date Posted: Feb 19, 2006 4:03 PM
That description of Vader is better applied to Sidious. Vader is more public, and Sidious hides in the shadows.
Personally, I don't blame Cheney for shooting the guy(Order 66!). He's a lawyer! 
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Darth Siler 55
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date Posted: Feb 19, 2006 4:39 PM
I find the comments quite hilarious
Son of a Bith,
there isn't enough death and carnage to be considered order 66. (maybe next time)
but that was gut-busting funny
DS55 over and out
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prettypadme999
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date Posted: Feb 19, 2006 5:16 PM
I heard somewhere that it was quial hunting!! 
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EvilDarthBear
The Grand Admiral's Club
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date Posted: Feb 19, 2006 6:22 PM
Ahhhhhh, At last we come to this again. I remember when i was blind, when i thought President Clinton was evil and trying to turn the USA into a puppet of the U.N. Thing is, i was like 13. Now i can see the good he did, and the bad. I would not vote for him, but i realize he did a lot of good in some areas. But, the Left and Democratic party seems incapable of that, Bush is just pure evil to them! I don't get it, How can he be utterly stupid?....and.....be a evil Sith Lord? ummmm......yeahhhhh......he can't! And he is neither. .
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EvilDarthBear
The Grand Admiral's Club
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date Posted: Feb 19, 2006 6:22 PM
Have any of you manged to get in Yale? And stay in? and graduate? Very few of you, huh? Because he does not agree with you, and is very zealous about protecting the USA....does not give you the right to demonize him. And you international people, He saw the same intelligence as your leaders, they all thought Iraq had WMD! Your leaders simply lacked the resolve
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Darth_Mordak_The_Wise
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date Posted: Feb 19, 2006 6:41 PM
I personally support Bush and Cheney. I don't consider them to be like Sith Lords. I would say that Cheney is Mace Windu, Bush is Yoda, Clinton is Vader, Hilary Clinton is Palpatine, and Arnold Schwartzenegger is Obi-Wan.
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JediPug1
Like My Father Before Me
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date Posted: Feb 19, 2006 6:58 PM
I don't think the comparison is a fair one. Yes, I am a Republican. I could go on and on about the Clintons but I was taught if you've got nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all.
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Darth_Mordak_The_Wise
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date Posted: Feb 19, 2006 7:02 PM
JediPug1 is right. I could go on and on about Clinton, Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Gore, and the enviormentelists cough-treehuggers-cough.
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EvilDarthBear
The Grand Admiral's Club
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date Posted: Feb 19, 2006 7:42 PM
You went to Yale then?
No sir, I was merely saying that it's absurd to call a Yale grad stupid.
And Darth_Mordak, I may be a agressive foreign policy, low taxes, pro-business, pro-life Republican. But I am big enviromentalist, i think the members in our party are being liberal when they want rights without responsibility. Sure you can have a factory, but the enviroment is a lot more important then your pocketbook! No one is going to make money if the air and water is poisoned.
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Son of a Bith
The Cantina Corner
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date Posted: Feb 19, 2006 8:20 PM
Enough partisan bickering!
Both sides have Sithly qualities!
Geez, why can't you people see beyond Left/Right, Liberal/Conservative? Making decisions based on logic and reason as opposed to base emotions can be a lesson well learned by everybody.
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EvilDarthBear
The Grand Admiral's Club
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date Posted: Feb 19, 2006 8:34 PM
Oh come on!
Base on logic huh? Not ever going to happen, it's called being human! We aren't Vulcans (oops! ST quote! hehe). Did our founding fathers say "wait, lets think here, it's impossible to beat the British. lets just give up"? No! They stood for what they believed in, and they did a great thing. Sure i some cases both can be right, but not everything! Someone is right, and someone is wrong. When we believe in the rightness of our cause we get emotional! and we get excited! It's this little thing called "Humanity".
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EvilDarthBear
The Grand Admiral's Club
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date Posted: Feb 19, 2006 8:34 PM
part 2
One of the greatest men ever to be president was Theodore Roosevelt, He was the epitome of energy and excitment! Eyewitinesses say just being in his presence made you feel electric. He should of calmed down huh? Maybe not cared some much? Should have been more like.....Buchanan? Cleveland? Fillmore? Oh wait! no one knows about them! They made such a little effect on the World. True we should see beyond Left/Right......But people with firm convictions built this country. And you know what? I have heard you several times say "both are bad". Man! If it's so bad start your own party! Run for office!
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Son of a Bith
The Cantina Corner
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date Posted: Feb 19, 2006 8:51 PM
Thanks for proving my point.
For your information, I voted Libertarian. I am liberal on some issues, conservative on others. Example: I am pro-gun, and believe government should be small, with limited power. Pretty much relegated to a ceremonial role. However, I am also a strong believer in universal human rights, abortion rights, and moderate environmental policy.
I believe in a strong military, and support our troops. However, I do not like how this war has been started and executed by the elite brass, but wholeheartedly wish our brave soldiers to get the job done in a kicka$$ way. 
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Darth Siler 55
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date Posted: Feb 19, 2006 10:18 PM
Geez, why can't you people see beyond Left/Right, Liberal/Conservative? Making decisions based on logic and reason as opposed to base emotions can be a lesson well learned by everybody.
son of a bith
Are you accusing everyone on this blog of being a sith? ![]:)](http://blogs.starwars.com/share/img/emoticons/devil.gif)
I do not like how this war has been started and executed by the elite brass, but wholeheartedly wish our brave soldiers to get the job done in a kicka$$ way.
I concur...
did you know that the U.S.A. has technically been at war with Al Qaeda since 1992?
DS55 over and out
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Son of a Bith
The Cantina Corner
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 12:05 AM
DS55
Good points.
Technically, Al-Qaida used to be our allies! We gave the mujahedeen (Holy warriors) in Afghanistan weapons and training to fight off the Commies.
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EvilDarthBear
The Grand Admiral's Club
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 4:13 AM
Libertarianism seems great at first, But it doesn't work. When we had a very small federal government, we were trampled by other countries! Jefferson discovered that....lol...Libertarianism seem to be all about rights, not about service to your country or to a great cause, it seems to be all about rights without responsibility. Anyway Bith, People will keep making blogs like this....I will keep posting my opinions, you will keep saying we are both wrong.....i'm fine with that! Cya next time! 
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blck1
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 4:43 AM
Dart Modark 'the wise' >>>The above you wrote is plain stupid...Feel free to f*ck up your environment your astma-kids will love you for it...And for EvilDarthBEar >>our leaders believe in consensus and discussion...wich makes the descission-making-process very slow, I know this to can be irritating. In a democracy it takes time to take a good decision. And they where right to have questions and not rush into war. The current American government surely has Sith written allover it. They are sellfish and they aren't affraid to torture people...This government is the worst thing that could happen to the USA and the world.
And I'm affraid we'll pay for their arrogance. Half the world hates our paled-skinned buts.
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Darth_Mordak_The_Wise
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 4:57 AM
Everyone thinks that Bush is an evil Sith, because the Democrats keep bashing him up in the news! Everyone watches the news! So everyone thinks he's a Sith! But I see through there lies.
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blck1
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 6:02 AM
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blck1
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 6:05 AM
Oh ...I forgot there's a line in ROTS right before the Mustafar-duel. Anakin says: " If you are not with me then you are against me"....this is a word by word quote of Mr. Bush in his speech to his 'allies' right before the invasion of Iraq....
Isn't this proof of the statement that Sith controls the white-house...GL thinks so
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EvilDarthBear
The Grand Admiral's Club
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 6:37 AM
You know what? There is a time for slow discussion, But there is time when fast action is required. We are not a Democracy! WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY! Why can't people get that! Even President Bush says it is......grrr......But it's not! It's a Republic! There has never been a working democracy! Not one! But I digress.....
And about torture, Name one time when it's been proven the US Government tortured someone! Yes Abu Gharib....But wait, That was rogue troops....and they are being punished. Why do you and others look first at the USA for evil? You now enjoy the right to speak freely.....and those Iraqis you wish were under a tyrannical ruler again, enjoy that same right today!
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EvilDarthBear
The Grand Admiral's Club
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 6:37 AM
About WMD, have you heard about this tape Saddam made? Where he said they where building WMD?
There is times in human history, where one must choose a side, and throw oneself into it fully. And fight with all you can muster, For what? For an Ideal.....And that ideal is Freedom and Justice for all! We are engaged in a epic war between good evil....greater then the cold war, greater then the civil war, and even greater then WW2! We are going to be fighting a country-less army......with vast resources. With support in many countries. And we will fight this evil for a long time. Because the very basis of what they believe, Is imposing their religion on others. It's wrong and we should fight it, here and around the world.
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EvilDarthBear
The Grand Admiral's Club
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 6:38 AM
And you may say "well they have the right to do what they want" Not if their belief opressive to others. That is the same argument that slave owners used, that it was their right to own someone, they were wrong....and so are you
(Yikes! I didn't know i wrote that much!....haha)
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blck1
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 7:16 AM
"Because the very basis of what they believe, Is imposing their religion on others. It's wrong and we should fight it, here and around the world."
Why do you say that? They are not imposing their religion. You look at the whole thing to black and white. Like..."not all Americans are evil". So not all muslims will impose their religion. They are just plain people. Some are bad, some are good...I live in a Mixed-quarter of my town with lots of nationalities and religion. And nobody is impossing anything to me. There are always rotten apples in a basket. Do not throw away the good apples.
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EvilDarthBear
The Grand Admiral's Club
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 7:23 AM
We are not fighting the average muslim. We are fighting the extremists, i get that. That is who is trying to impose their religion on me. I was not talking about all muslims, I wanna clarify that.
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EvilDarthBear
The Grand Admiral's Club
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 7:25 AM
Did my thing not post?
Anyway what i said was that i understand not all muslims are bad, i know that. But the extremists are evil. And they are not the majority....i realize that. Don't put words in my mouth!
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blck1
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 7:28 AM
And the US should know about impossing their ideas onto others.
Check the last century. Nicaragua, Cuba, Korea, Vietnam, Afganistan...All for the good of the people who live there? i don't think so. The US foreign police is very simple: Please do what you want...as long as it pleases us.
And who is the fundamentalist in this whole debate, if your president ends every speech with"...and may God bless us"...
It's wrong to judge people, cultures or religions, and claim to know what they want.
Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house,...my Sith friend
Greetzz...
BTW torture evidence:
http://www.humanitas-international.org/torturewatch/
http://www.amnestyusa.org/stoptorture/news.do
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blck1
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 7:36 AM
yikes...we wrote a lot... Anybody some other opinions?
And I'm Habby to know EvilBear that you do know the difference between the rotten apples and the good ones. But think about this...How did they get rotten in the first place?
No one is innocent in this matter. We the western world have exploited the eastern world for many centuries. We put more money in our lottery than human aid...why? It's like with the environment if everybody could try a little bit...it would make a huge impact. Why not donate to Amnesty or doctors without frontiers, the red cross (moon)? You know they'll put your money to good use.
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jedimasterninks
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 7:49 AM
Liberal/Conservative
Yeah, I know, NDP is the way to go!
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JediPug1
Like My Father Before Me
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 8:24 AM
However, I am also a strong believer in universal human rights, abortion rights,
No one has the right to kill another human being. Also, if you don't even have the right to be born, then what good are all the other rights people insist on? They are meaningless if the right to life doesn't come first.
The right to choose comes before conception, not after.
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ewanandhaydenfan5
I Have You Now!
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 9:13 AM
I was hesitant to publish this blog, especially since I really don't know much about politics, so I don't feel qualified to state my opinions. Politics is an area about which people have strong opinions; it can be a sensitive and personal topic. But I'm glad to see it has sparked so many comments and discussions!
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ewanandhaydenfan5
I Have You Now!
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 11:06 AM
Y'know, I just realized something. In the opening statement of this blog, I said "OUR president", meaning the President of the U.S. I had forgotten that people from other countries besides America participate on these blogs . So, to the readers from countries other than America, I do apologize!
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darthgenious7
Chickens only cross the road after coercion.
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 11:47 AM
You are VERY entitled to state your opinions. How informed you are is up to you but others can teach. Your entitlement to your opinions came from the blood of our forefathers and the blood of our soldiers that has been and currently is being spilled. Your rights as well as my own is something I would willingly die for. So to say you are not qualified to express your Opinions is blasphemos to me. No matter where stand in politics being an American SHOULD be a unifying source of pride and freedom to express ideas and opinions is an entitlement to all who live free.
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ewanandhaydenfan5
I Have You Now!
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 12:27 PM
Darthgenious7,
I completely agree. I just meant that I'm uncomfortable expressing my opinions on issues that I don't have info about. But I'd defend to the death anyone's right to free speech, be it in America or anywhere else in the world.
Thanks for the comments!
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EvilDarthBear
The Grand Admiral's Club
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 3:48 PM
I just want to say thanks for not freaking out (i mean you ewanfan5). I didn't want you to delete it or something, i just wanted a good debate about the facts, and we have had one!
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EvilDarthBear
The Grand Admiral's Club
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 3:48 PM
And blck, i do support the red cross and other organizations (though not amnesty international). And you may say we are responsible, but two wrongs don't make a right. And you say that we have been imposing our will on others....well, in some cases that is true. But not in Korea or Vietnam, we were defending our allies in both engagements. It's just that USA started a movement....one of freedom and equality, and it seems people always look for the evil in our country. There is a good quote by one of our greatest leaders, Lincoln.....
"When you look for the evil in mankind, you will surely find it"
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Jedi Ace
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 4:23 PM
***EvilDarthBear***
Your leaders simply lacked the resolve
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The few comments you're replying to at the beginning of this blog seem, to me, to be from other Americans, so why are you saying "your"?
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Jedi Ace
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 4:25 PM
*blck1*
...Anakin says: " If you are not with me then you are against me"....this is a word by word quote of Mr. Bush in his speech to his 'allies' right before the invasion of Iraq....
Isn't this proof of the statement that Sith controls the white-house...GL thinks so
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I'm not the biggest fan of Bush, but I have to stand up for him here. So, many people have said this line shows that GL was comparing the whole Bush Administration to the Sith. I think it's bull. That line is SO cliched. TONS of movies/tv shows/video games use that line and have LONG before Bush said it. Common sense needs to be used on that one, especially if you're trying to prove a point.
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Jedi Ace
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 4:25 PM
***JediPug1***
The right to choose comes before conception, not after.
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What about women who didn't get the right to choose before hand, such as victims of rape? I'm not saying everyone should just jump up and use abortion because they didn't think (Condoms? Hello?), but there are situations where things happen that are out of the womens hands.
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Jedi Ace
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date Posted: Feb 20, 2006 4:26 PM
***Ewanfan5***
>>About opinion and knowledge<<<
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I agree as well. I try not to comment on topics I know little to nothing about. I try to learn something about a topic before I express my opinion, it makes arguements easier if I can think of valid points to make.
Though... I'm breaking one of my own rules and getting into a discussion about politics and such on the internet (or the Star Wars forums for that matter). In my opinion, it's the worst place to do it... cause rarely to do people think outside their box, and listen to points made by others. It always seems rather futile.
Anyway... I have plans to start my own blog, so I'm off to start a hyperspace account. Later people.
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