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The Jedi Way: Preserving the Light
by: ral_kleest
date posted: Nov 21, 2006 6:41 AM  | 
updated: Nov 21, 2006 10:53 AM
Stuck on You - Why Padme was the "Real" Chosen One
It's no secret that the concept of attachment/love is central to the saga. In AOTC, Anakin's relates to Padme his "certain point of view" about love and the Jedi. Instead of being "forbidden", Jedi are "required" to love, he says. Padme is no Jedi, but she shares that reluctant attitude toward love- at first. Duty, service, and other ideals are more important. A galaxy on the brink of war, preserving democracy, the Republic- these are the more important things. Until the Geonosis arena.

"I truly, deeply, love you."

Later, Yoda shares his perspective, which we could call the official, authorized Jedi view. His advice to Anakin in ROTS is to learn to "let go" of everything he might fear losing, because that fear would lead to the dark side.

But Anakin does not heed this advice, and his love for Padme becomes the pivot point for Sidious' manipulations, and the creation of Darth Vader, and the revenge of the Sith.

So who was right about love? Anakin? Not really. His philosophy is actually a rationalization to justify his desire, and get what he wants- or maybe I should I say who he wants.

Yoda then? I don't think so. Be happy when beings you care about join with the Force? "Mourn them do not." Like so many things in life, much easier said than done. Why bring the clones to Geonosis then? Why fight at all then? Put his perspective in practice and it would create some terrible circumstances, and did. Yoda eventually sends Obi-Wan to kill, not reason with, not negotiate with, Anakin. You've gotta be a cold-hearted so and so to do something like that, but that's another blog.

Who really understood love? Padme. And that's why she's the real Chosen One. Without her influence, her life, the galaxy could never have been saved.

If we understand that the Force was out of "balance", and we assume that this means an inequality between the light and the dark, Jedi and Sith, then isn't it interesting that the solution to this problem didn't come from either camp? Nope, I'm not forgetting Anakin.

Luke, Padme's son (how often do we think of him that way?) becomes the solution, the key to restoring the balance, because he had a philosophy of love instilled in him not from the Jedi, not Anakin, not the Sith, but his mother.

"There is still good in him."

That fundamental mindet, way of looking at the world, is so pure, so refreshing, and so powerful, that it overcomes darkness and destroys fear. Now that I think of it, we could use some more of that type of love in our galaxy...

Your thoughts?

Edit- Regarding Padme's sense of duty I mentioned in the first paragraph, I meant to give props to Galactic Babe for her excellent blog which you've already seen on the front page 11/21. Her question helped spark the thoughts I blogged here. Thanks GB!




The Stooge
Star Wars Joke-A-Day
date Posted: Nov 21, 2006 1:18 PM
Hmm... maybe (maybe!) she was right about love, but that doesn't mean she was the chosen one, right? The two could be mutually exclusive.
  darth maul517
Darth Jedi Maul Secura
date Posted: Nov 21, 2006 4:02 PM
Ineresting. Setting my views aside about the chosen one, this theory might make sense. It depends on point of view. One thing I 100% agree with, Padme knew love.
ral_kleest
The Jedi Way: Preserving the Light
date Posted: Nov 21, 2006 5:12 PM
Thanks guys for your comments. Actually, calling Padme the "real" Chosen One is a play on words. Anakin was the Chosen One. He brought balance to the Force. But he needed help. And it was Padme's love, shown in Luke, that enabled him to do that. Chosen One or not, he couldn't have done it without her.

She was right about love

Padme knew love

Exactly!!!

MTFBWY
GalacticBabe
I Have a Bad Feeling About This!
date Posted: Nov 21, 2006 6:48 PM
I meant to give props to Galactic Babe for her excellent blog which you've already seen on the front page 11/21. Her question helped spark the thoughts I blogged here. Thanks GB! AWWW, that's so sweet! You're very welcome!

that's why she's the real Chosen One I understood perfectly what you meant by that. I think it was ultimately Padmé that brought Vader back from the dark side. Not her physically, not even spiritually, but her essence, if you will. There was enough of her in Luke to bring the good back to the surface.

I hope you understood all that, I'm not too sure I understod it myself. :8}

Wonderful blog!:)
GalacticBabe
I Have a Bad Feeling About This!
date Posted: Nov 21, 2006 6:49 PM
oh, the typo's!! sorry!
MissPadme
Miss Padme's Naboo Love Nest
date Posted: Nov 21, 2006 8:42 PM
Who really understood love? Padme. And that's why she's the real Chosen One. Without her influence, her life, the galaxy could never have been saved.

Yeah, in a nutshell.
ral_kleest
The Jedi Way: Preserving the Light
date Posted: Nov 22, 2006 6:05 AM
There was enough of her in Luke to bring the good back to the surface. Yes!

Yeah, in a nutshell. Thanks!
  Fish1941
date Posted: Nov 28, 2006 7:46 AM
So who was right about love? Anakin? Not really. His philosophy is actually a rationalization to justify his desire, and get what he wants- or maybe I should I say who he wants.

What Anakin had told Padme on that refugee starship wasn't his philosophy. To me, it seemed as if he was merely repeating what had been taught to him. Why do people want to believe that he was rationalizing his "desire"? And why is it so wrong to desire someone? At least it's honest, and not wrapped in some cocoon of hypocricy and self-righteousness.
ral_kleest
The Jedi Way: Preserving the Light
date Posted: Nov 29, 2006 5:56 AM
No, I stand by this one, Fish. ;

I think that was Anakin's philosophy, his "certain point of view", about the Jedi and love. And clearly he had ulterior motives in telling that to Padme (i.e. rationalizing to get what he wanted). But, I'll concede the point that condemning Anakin for that goes too far, not that I did, but perhaps I was close...

It's not wrong to desire someone. But what happened to Anakin went beyond desire, to obsession with possession, in my opinion. His fear of loss overwhelmed everything else, as I see it.
  Fish1941
date Posted: Dec 03, 2007 12:19 PM
Does knowing about love and forgiveness really makes one the "Chosen One"? Or does being familiar with both the light and dark side of oneself? Has Padme ever really faced the darker side of her nature? Or acknowledged it?
  Fish1941
date Posted: Dec 03, 2007 12:22 PM
It's not wrong to desire someone. But what happened to Anakin went beyond desire, to obsession with possession, in my opinion. His fear of loss overwhelmed everything else, as I see it.

You're not describing what Anakin had told Padme on that refugee ship in AOTC. You're describing his actions against the Tuskens in AOTC and his decision to become Palpatine's apprentice in ROTS. You're describing Padme's decision to renounce Valorum, which gave Palpatine the opportunity to become chancellor, or her decision not to reveal her marriage to Anakin after the latter had suggested it.

Just about all of the major characters are guilty of allowing fear of loss to get the best of them . . . but on a different scale than Anakin's.
ral_kleest
The Jedi Way: Preserving the Light
date Posted: Dec 04, 2007 6:31 PM
Does knowing about love and forgiveness really makes one the "Chosen One"?

I would say yes, in the context of "Chosen One" as I used it here. As I clarified in the earlier comments, Anakin is of course the Chosen One of SW, as Qui-Gon recognized. But my point in this blog is that it is her legacy- of love- which came to be instilled in Luke, which in turn came to be the catalyst for Anakin's redemption and the restoration of balance to the Force. Without that, which I attribute to Padme, the Chosen One- Anakin- could not have fulfilled his destiny.
ral_kleest
The Jedi Way: Preserving the Light
date Posted: Dec 04, 2007 6:36 PM
Or does being familiar with both the light and dark side of oneself? Has Padme ever really faced the darker side of her nature? Or acknowledged it?

I think the question here is did Anakin have to turn to the dark side to bring balance. I don't know, but I think that would be a good blog...

I don't think that Padme had to face her own darkness. Her sins seem to be more of omission than commission...which is I think what you touch on in your next comment...
ral_kleest
The Jedi Way: Preserving the Light
date Posted: Dec 04, 2007 6:43 PM
You're not describing what Anakin had told Padme on that refugee ship in AOTC...

I'm not sure I follow you here. Forgive me if I am missing it.

I think Anakin was being seductive, perhaps manipulative, and not just toward Padme. I think he was rationalizing, which is essentially self-deceptive, throughout AOTC in order to realize the love that he desired. I wasn't addressing Padme's motivations, which also included rationalization, but to nowhere near the extent of his, IMO.

Just about all of the major characters are guilty of allowing fear of loss to get the best of them . . . but on a different scale than Anakin's.

No doubt about that. I would agree. Thanks for your comments Fish 1941!
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