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The Ramblin' Rodian
date posted: Aug 04, 2007 10:51 PM  |  updated: Aug 08, 2007 11:03 PM
Trak's Theories #1: Rodian Biology
A while back on page two of my "Blanket Statements" topic, I went on quite a tangent. Well, after refusing to let myself live it down, I decided to give it a bit more thought and figured that it'd make a good blog entry. So here it is... my rabid tangent on Rodian physiology and evolutionary theories, the extended version!

What started the tangent and my sillosophical mind was Master Ki-Aaron-Mundi's comment about creatures' brains being hard-wired to adhere to specific traits. I thought about it and put it toward the stereotyping of the Rodian species. Their violent tendencies arose from what was apparently a vicious and dangerous life on their jungle world. So, I decided to track that evolutionary path and see what would arise from it, based on the physical traits of modern Rodians.

"Wait," you're prolly wondering, "you're gonna bore us with a big biology lesson, aren't you?"

In a sense, yes. Though, I'm sure someone's interest will be piqued. That and I really have nowhere else to put my weird theories and I'm sorta hoping that someone at Lucasfilm will take notice. Wishful thinking, I know. At least a few will be entertained, even if it's just at the fact that I took the time to write this up!

Anywho, the New Essential Guide to Alien Species describes the Rodian race as reptilian beings whose obsession with violence arose from the dangers lurking in the jungles of their homeworld. It also says that they are primarily hunters and never really developed their own agriculture. This seems somewhat out of place, given their physiology.

Due to the jungle environment, I would assume that there would be other sources of food, i.e. fruits, insects, large flowers, etc. Taking into account the Rodian physiology, then I would figure that they would have lived off of such foodstuffs. The green skin-colouring and sucker-tipped fingers would dictate an arboreal lifestyle, or at least an ancestry of tree-dwellers. The large eyes would fit with nocturnal activities. And the snout is better-suited to insectivores or sucking sap or nectar. The facial structure alone doesn't strike me as belonging to the meat-eaters.

When the Rodians descended from the trees and began walking upright, thereby freeing their arms to carry items and use tools; they went from being the hunted to now the hunters. I would have assumed that the facial features would follow suit with the change in diet and lifestyle, as to tear meat, it requires a larger mouth and teeth. The Rodians have snouts and no teeth that I can see. This leads me to believe that their diet is still comprised mostly of insects, vegetable matter, and other things that they would be able to comfortably eat.

I can't really picture Greedo, for example, eating a cheeseburger as his face isn't built for it. It'd be quite a task and make quite a mess. The shape of the mouth just doesn't work very well for biting things. Greedo would be better off cutting the burger into smaller pieces and eating it that way, which automatically reminds me of that one Seinfeld episode...

Though, while I'm still on the topic of physical structure, let's try and figure out what those little antennae are, shall we? Given the apparent reptilian heritage (though, I think they're more of repto-mammals, as the females do have mammary glands...) and what the Databank says of those antennae being "sensory organs," then I looked at other reptiles and amphibians for clues on what they could sense.

Some species of frogs, like the African clawed frog, detect minute vibrations through the water using a lateral-line organ. Various fish use similar organs for detecting bioelectrical fields generated by other creatures. Certain snakes, like the pit vipers and large constrictors, have pits on their upper jaws that detect heat. Perhaps those small antennae that twist around are sensing vibrations or heat? The Essential Guide already covers the extent of their vision range, so it could be that the antennae may help with that, allowing a Rodian to see into the infrared range.

Though, if we go back to what I said about them possibly being insect-eaters, then if the antennae detected vibrations, the Rodians would be able to locate grubs hiding inside branches. This would be similar behaviour to the mouse lemur; a small primate with enormous eyes, fingers that end in almost sucker-like pads to allow 'em to climb, and prominent ears. Perhaps the Rodians also have the mouse lemur's long tongue for snagging insects out of borrows?

So, it seems to me that the most-likely explanation on what those antennae could be used for would be to detect vibrations. If that's the case, then it would be very difficult to sneak up on a Rodian. They wouldn't even have to turn their head to know you're coming around a corner.

Now, back to what the Rodians did with the meat that they hunted, seeing as how they would be forced to dice it up into smaller bites in order to eat it. Perhaps meat isn't their primary source of food. So, what did they do with the creatures they hunted? Shelter? Clothing? Weaponry? That seems to be a likely conclusion. Killing for food was not the primary goal, as they had other sources of nourishment. Though, since they concentrated their hunting for things other than food, then that may be how their brains became hard-wired for violence. Hunting wasn't necessary for survival; it was a sport. And therefore, the Rodians were taught to view it as just that.

And there you have it, folks. This blog was brought to you by Trak Nar's wild-and-crazy theories. Drive safely!

EDIT: Found that mouse lemurs make a better comparison than aye-ayes. This picture of a mouse lemur says why.

Master Ki-Aaron-Mundi
I was a Teenage Jedi
date Posted: Aug 05, 2007 5:55 PM
Well, I for one really enjoyed this blog. I'm not sure why--like you said, it's very nerdy, and to be perfectly honest, biology never been all that interesting to me--but maybe I just like to see such thought put to something Star Wars related.

Either way, good job getting your thoughts down, it was a fun read!

Can't wait for "Trak's Theories #2"--Bothan biology, maybe? :)
Trak Nar
The Ramblin' Rodian
date Posted: Aug 05, 2007 10:57 PM
Hrm... well considering my work on Twi'leks didn't pan out like I planned (the pretty ladies are just too distracting), then Bothans it is! I'll prolly start woking on that one next week.
Trak Nar
The Ramblin' Rodian
date Posted: Aug 07, 2007 12:51 AM
I was looking up pics of aye-ayes and found that mouse lemurs have bigger eyes.

Greedo's ancestor? (Warning: The pic's HUGE.)
  SidiousLives
The Knights of Monte Cook
date Posted: Aug 07, 2007 5:19 AM
This is sheer brilliance.
However, Rodians would not be the first Star Wars spcies to have their ecology brought into question.
At one point, around the time the special edition trilogy was in theaters, the pre movie trivia questions that appeared on screen for early auidiences included a statement claiming that Wookiees were herbavores (dispite the fact that Chewie caught the crew of the falcon in the trap on Endor's moon because he was reaching for meat).
  SidiousLives
The Knights of Monte Cook
date Posted: Aug 07, 2007 5:19 AM
Another disputed species is the Mon Calamari, whose women are sometimes displayed as having mammary glands, yet specifically did not have them in Star Wars Galaxies because a non mammal would not have them.
For that matter, the Faleen shouldn't have them... or be sexually attracted to humans as Xizor was to Leia!
...
Darn it.
Now you've got me started!
Trak Nar
The Ramblin' Rodian
date Posted: Aug 07, 2007 6:16 PM
Mwuahahaha!! Theories are contagious!

And it looks like I'll have more species to work on... Chewie's dental work is more akin to a carniverous species, I have yet to see a Mon Cal that needs to wear a bra, and who says that non-humans can't be attracted to humans and vice-versa? Alotta people will agree that Twi'lek women are hot. XD
  SidiousLives
The Knights of Monte Cook
date Posted: Aug 07, 2007 7:48 PM
True, sir, but Twi'leks aren't reptilian like Faleen, and theory dictates that reptiles shouldn't have the same type of reproductive organs as us. However, Xizor is noted as being a (mammal) womanizer, and his neice has a d-cup at least!!!
  SidiousLives
The Knights of Monte Cook
date Posted: Aug 07, 2007 7:58 PM
P.S. - As far as the female Mon Cal goes, it's not a common subject matter. I saw one in a dark horse comic that could have put Dolly Parton to shame, but the only picture I could find of one online could arguably be hourglass in form, but without distinct mammal anatomy in the chest area.

http://images1.wikia.com/starwars/images/7/77/Mon_Calamari_NEGAS.jpg

And lastly, the female Mon cals in SWG are all flatchested entriely!
It's just one of those mysteries of Star Wars continuity!
Trak Nar
The Ramblin' Rodian
date Posted: Aug 07, 2007 8:03 PM
If Jabba finds Leia alluring...

The Mon Cals possessing, umm... assets may be more of an aesthetic thing just to please any humans. Though that looks like something I'm gonna hafta work on for my next theory (after I finish off my Rodian theory and the Bothan theorys).

Oh, and since looks are oftentimes decieving... I'm actually a girl. XD Not that it really matters, but still...
Trak Nar
The Ramblin' Rodian
date Posted: Aug 08, 2007 4:22 PM
Welp, I've come across evidence that bipedal walking started in the trees, so the Rodians would've been already standing and moving upright 'fore any ancestors descended to the ground.
  chademe94
date Posted: Aug 09, 2007 11:03 AM
I think it's an interesting post. A couple of comments though.

1. I think you're trying to hard to make alien species follow patterns on earth. Just as the animals in Australia or the Amazon are radically different than those in Europe or Africa, imagine how much more bizarre they would be if they were from an entirely different planet.

2. Just because they developed on a violent planet doesn't mean they ate what they killed. Maybe they became violent because they were often faced with kill or be killed types of situations. And all they really wanted was to sit and eat a nice soup.
Trak Nar
The Ramblin' Rodian
date Posted: Aug 09, 2007 6:18 PM
Well, I already did point out above that hunting wasn't just for food as there are other food sources and whatnot, so I kinda figured that they would've done something else with whatever they kiil, be it clothing, shelter, weaponry, or just to lessen the population of local predators.

I may be "trying too hard," but I find that to be alot more challenging and thereby more fun than just dismissing any eccentricty of any alien species as being "well, it's different on that planet." That seems to be a very easy (and lazy) way of summing things up, no?
  silvertiger1981
Silvertiger's Theories, Ideas, and Whatever Else I Think of...
date Posted: Aug 10, 2007 5:26 PM
A couple of thoughts...
1. Rodians' mouths may not be what they seem. You mentioned snakes, and were very close to a possible answer in doing so. Have you ever seen how any member of the constrictor family eats, such as pythons? A python can dislocate its jaws and literally wrap its maw around anything the size of a buck and take it down whole, rump first. You never know...Rodians may be able to eat bigger things than one is led to believe. If you look closely at a picture of a Rodian, there is a 3 to 5 inch slit at each corner of the mouth, which would enable it to engulf anything 10 inches in radius - and that's WITHOUT having to dislocate their jaw.
  silvertiger1981
Silvertiger's Theories, Ideas, and Whatever Else I Think of...
date Posted: Aug 10, 2007 5:26 PM
2. Since a Rodian is reptilian-like, but NOT from Earth, it may be, as someone mentioned earlier, that they do not have to conform specifically to our separate laws of physiology. They may have properties that we wouldn't think of in common with other creatures that we wouldn't think of, such as insects. Certain insects, such as flies, break down and digest their food with enzymes that they spit onto their prey. After the solid food has been liquified, they are then able to suck it up through a straw-like appendage into their tiny mouths. You never know, Rodians may do something similar to this.
Trak Nar
The Ramblin' Rodian
date Posted: Aug 10, 2007 6:52 PM
Now I'm picturing my above example with Greedo, only he's swallowing that cheeseburger whole. Though, any illustrations I've seen never really indicated a Rodian having teeth... 'cept for mebbe a ridge, much like turtles have (only it's in their mouths). If they have a ridged portion of their jaw, then... dang, they could inflict one nasty nip! Ever been bitten by a turtle?
Trak Nar
The Ramblin' Rodian
date Posted: Aug 10, 2007 6:52 PM
The shape of the snout, not necessarily the size, still leads me to believe that they evolved from insectivores. That snout is better-suited to rooting through soft dirt or mud (perhaps they ate small crusteceans buried in the sand at the bottom of lakes and such?). It seems to be possibly a very sensitive part of the face, prolly has alotta nerve-endings just below the skin...
Master Ki-Aaron-Mundi
I was a Teenage Jedi
date Posted: Aug 11, 2007 12:50 PM
so I kinda figured that they would've done something else with whatever they kiil, be it clothing, shelter, weaponry, or just to lessen the population of local predators
I've always wondered about that--the difference in evolution between natural predator and natural prey that gain sentience, and how they then handle their world, both psychologically and through further evolution.
  Errex
date Posted: Oct 16, 2007 9:28 AM
Regarding the antennae, you may notice that rodians already have two ears, but no nostrils. So, my take is that they use the antennae to breathe.

I can imagine them submerged in a swamp, stalking their prey, only eyes and nostrils visible.
Marilia_Lemelisk
The Chiss Educational Academy: Official Information Center on Earth for The Chiss Empire.
date Posted: Dec 08, 2007 8:09 PM
Very nice blog and very interesting theories about Rodian biology. I was never very good at biology but here's my take on things, at least the Humaniod structure anyway. Sorry will have to post many times cause of the limits on characters.

The conditions on Earth would be like any other planet with the exceptions of life that managed to find away to survive in the harshest environments, as Dr. Malcom said "Life finds a way". The most extreme that I can think of at the moment is the Ammonia breathing subspecies of Gand for example the bounty hunter Zuckuss.
Marilia_Lemelisk
The Chiss Educational Academy: Official Information Center on Earth for The Chiss Empire.
date Posted: Dec 08, 2007 8:13 PM
I remember watching on the Discovery Channel about Mammal/Human Evolution and if it wasn't for the early mammals need for more oxygen as they evolved then insects could have become the dominate species if they didn't evolve to a smaller size as their need for oxygen decreased. Maybe Rodia was the parralell Earth except instead of insects, reptiles, their need for oxygen grew as they became more evolved as far as physiology and that might explain the humaniod appearance. They developed a more complex internal system to meet the needs of the environment and their needs for survival.
Marilia_Lemelisk
The Chiss Educational Academy: Official Information Center on Earth for The Chiss Empire.
date Posted: Dec 08, 2007 8:19 PM
The humaniod appearance would suggest some environmental aspect that was the same as the one on Earth as humans evolved with all else being different. Back when humans evolved to what we are now, the Earth had so much more trees and wildlife. That would suggest a condition like Rodia, a jungle planet. More trees and wildlife equals more Oxygen and Carbon as well as a need to survive the predators that surrounded them. It was probably those needs that the Rodians evolved into humanionds. The need for oxygen developed the complex humanoid structure to filter oxygen into carbon as well as bipedal to help with escaping predators as well developing intelligence to also help with survival. Much like how man became the top predator on Earth.
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