Definitely. I think that they thought that they could handle Palps, since other Sith in the past had been weaker and Jedi could defeat them. Additionally, Sideous's first apprentice, Darth Maul, was purely Sith trained, but was killed by a Padawan, so they probably thought that they could handle his master pretty well.

What sort of back-up could they have taken?

Clones? Any clones would have been shown to be more loyal to Sidious than the Jedi, bringing about order 66 to those accompanying clones.

Jedi? According to the novel, not many more jedi were available. They took the 4 best blades available at the time. In the novel, kit Fisto has reservations about facing Sidious, and wishes Obi-Wan was present (according to the novel Obi-Wan is the ultimate lightsaber fighter in the Jedi Order).

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Also consider where the confrontation took place. In Palpatines office there was not much room. Mace and Kit had to 'wait' while the other two Jedi Masters were killed. If the fight had been in a more spacious area, I think the four Jedi would have been plenty. Tactically though, they were forced into a bottle-neck by fighting Sidious where they did.

To me, not arrogance, but perhaps a short-sighted over-confidence.

As jyer said, they did bring "four of the orders best blades". It's even commented on earlier in the novel the Sasee and Mace were left intentionally on Coruscant incase Sidious arose because they were the best the Order had to offer. Even still, Kit did express wishes that Yoda and Obi-Wan could come and help them. But I do think it was stupid that they didn't take Anakin. They all know Anakin has great talent, and with five Jedi, Palps would have no choice but to show his Sith colors, possilby preventing Anakin from turning. Plus, one sith against four Jedi, they had to feel a little confident about those odds

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Clones? Any clones would have been shown to be more loyal to Sidious than the Jedi, bringing about order 66 to those accompanying clones.

Now that's an interesting thought, jyer. Now it makes me want to imagine an "alternative" scenario during that specific scene in Episode III. Hmmm...

It was probably both arrogance and GL's way of narrowing it down to just Mace and Sidious.

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I dunno... who would their backup have been? They're the best fighters in the galaxy, and they knew that their time was limited.

The other thing to remember is that, had Anakin not turned to the Dark Side, the Jedi would have succeeded in taking down Palpatine. So I chalk it up more to confidence, and not arrogance.

First, I think that 4 against 1 was, in most people's perspectives, enough. What Mace didn't count on, however, is that the other three "best" Jedi wouldn't even try to fight against Palpatine and instead just stand there while he killed them. (Kit Fisto did block a couple of times.) So it was down to a one-on-one which Mace would have won if Anakin didn't show up.

Second, wow, I've been away too long, welcome to Hyperspace rappingrancor!

May the Force be with us all! God bless!

Whatever the reason, I wish they'd had lived longer!

In the novel, kit Fisto has reservations about facing Sidious, and wishes Obi-Wan was present (according to the novel Obi-Wan is the ultimate lightsaber fighter in the Jedi Order).

I can't believe that Matthew Stover added that! Didn't he realized that Mace had a better chance against Palpatine than Obi-Wan? What an idiot!

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I can't believe that Matthew Stover added that! Didn't he realized that Mace had a better chance against Palpatine than Obi-Wan? What an idiot!

In the novel, it was Mace who told Obi-Wan that he was better. Mace said that there was no better than Obi-Wan because although mace had essentially 'cerated' Vaapad, Obi-Wan had mastered the classic lightsaber style (form 3 I think). That was why Obi-Wan was chosen to defeat General Greivous.

GG was able to nulify Mace during the battle of Coruscant with a simple movement of his feet, whereas he couldn't get close to Obi-Wan with the lightsabers.

Perhaps if you read the book rather than making shortsighted judgements, you will understand the reasons for many things!

I dunno... who would their backup have been?

Well, remember, they went in a gunship. I don't think they piloted it themselves. And another thing, remember that Order 66 was issued after Palps killed the Jedi. He wouldn't have had time to tell them if the Jedi had just rushed in. And even if he had, I think the Order's "four best blades" would have been able to take care of some clones.

Wherever the Force may guide you, God will bless you.

RR out.

In the novel, it was Mace who told Obi-Wan that he was better. Mace said that there was no better than Obi-Wan because although mace had essentially 'cerated' Vaapad, Obi-Wan had mastered the classic lightsaber style (form 3 I think). That was why Obi-Wan was chosen to defeat General Greivous.

But you're still quoting Stover, who is contradicting what Lucas and Co. have said about the Jedi fighters. According to Lucas, only Yoda, Mace and Anakin were capable of facing Palpatine . . . and no one else.

Perhaps if you read the book rather than making shortsighted judgements, you will understand the reasons for many things!

After reading the above, I realize that I'm not the one guilty of shortsighted judgements. I made that judgement based upon what Lucas and Co. had stated about which Jedi were capable of facing Palpatine in the "Making of Episode III" book, and not on what Matthew Stover had written in his novel.

Yeah in the novel, it's not that Obiwan was the best with a lightsaber it was that he was the best in form one, which is all defense and wait for an opening. Making him perfectly suited to beat the likes of Grievous and eventually Anakin. And the biggest mistake they made was not bringing Anakin, he's the one the profecy said would bring balance to the force, here's his chance and you leave him in the temple. This placed the final seed of distrust in Anakin's mind and sealed his fall to the darkside. Mace himself said "If what you said is right you'll have gained my trust" So he tells Anakin he doesn't trust him, how stupid is that.

jyer is correct in what he says and it's not a contratdiction. Obiwan was the master of the basic form, while Mace Yoda and Anakin were far more aggressive and all around better with a blade, but Obiwan is suited to better fight those who rely heavy on offence, he's a counter puncher, he waits for you to make a mistake then strikes. Anakin, Mace and Yoda overwhlem you with many quick powerful moves. So they're better with a blade but Obiwan can beat them if they make a mistake. Anakin dominated the entire duel with Obiwan, but only when he got cocky and thought that high ground didn't matter, was he cut down

If you read the novel Anakin had Obiwan beaten and was coming down with the death blow, but Obiwan used the force to make Anakin's robotic arm drop his saber. In the movie you'll notice it cuts back to them and Anakin is without his blade, that's where it went Obiwan survived because he was crafty and Dooku had taken Anakin's arm, had that not happened Obiwan was a dead man. Hope that clears some things up