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A Rebel's Ramblings
by: FAN4YRS
date posted: Feb 17, 2006 12:36 PM  | 
updated: Feb 18, 2006 2:07 PM
The Bible in Star Wars

The Bible in Star Wars


This blog is in response to "The driving force of STAR WARS". I wanted to take the time to organize my thoughts and not be limited to 750 characters.

First, before I continue I do want to express that I do not believe "Star Wars" is a perfect picture of biblical truth. However, the influence of the Bible in "Star Wars" motion pictures is rabidly apparent. Second, I do not presume to know Mr. Lucas's actual beliefs on the subject, but I do know that the America he grew up in was one where most people at least knew the Golden Rule, five of the Ten Commandments, and at least attended church services at Easter and Christmas. Third, this is not an exhaustive list of examples, this is what I am recalling right now. For the purpose of my memory I will begin with the Original Trilogy and end with the Prequels.

Episode IV:
The best example we have here is Obi-Wan Kenobi battling Darth Vader. First, Vader tells him that he is now the master, and Ben replies: "Only a master of evil, Darth." The evil of Satan is nothing compared to the goodness of God. It is not equal to God's good. In biblical terms evil is easy, because how difficult is it to think of yourself first and look out for your own interest? Obviously, it's not at all. Next, Ben tells him "if you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine". When Christ died on the cross for the sins of mankind he saved all who would believe in him from death (Ben died to free Luke and the others from the Death Star). However, Christ's work continues, paying for our sin he was physically resurrected and gives believers his Holy Spirit.

In literature there are often figures known as "the Christ character". The author uses them to save the others in some way (the Lion in "Lion, Witch, Wardrobe", for example). To a degree (albeit to an imperfect degree), Ben is symbolic of both Christ and the Holy Spirit, because he continues to speak to Luke and guide him with the information he needs.

Episode V:
Yoda again reminds Luke that the Dark Side of the Force is not equal in strength, or greater, than the Light Side. Luke asks "is the Dark Side stronger". Yoda: "No, no. Quicker, easy, most protective." Again, evil is easy, doing the right thing is difficult.

In another scene with Yoda Luke's X-Wing sinks and Yoda rises it from the murky water. Luke exclaims: "I don't believe it!" Yoda says, "That, is why you fail." Jesus tells us in John 3:16 that "whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life". The word for "believe" means to "trust in, cling to, put your faith in".

Episode VI:
This is where the film and biblical truth have a major difference. Luke knows there is "still good" in his father, but people are not saved on the basis of their goodness. "Only God is good", Jesus told his disciples. Therefore, we do not earn salvation, but it is a gift of grace.

However, p. 120 of THE MAGIC OF MYTH clearly spells out the biblical interpretation of redemption and how it relates to Darth Vader. I was happily surprised to read this back in 1997 when the book was originally published. Basically, that Vader's redemption is not without repentance: he turns from the Dark Side of the Force by destroying the Emperor and returns to the Light Side (again, not a perfect allusion, but certainly a good illustration to a point). Therefore, Vader is no longer a slave to the Emperor or the Dark Side (symbolic of sin).

Episode VI is also the first film where I notice "Jedi hating". First, from Jabba the Hutt (moreso in the novel than in the movie) and second from the Emperor. It seems Jedi are either respected or hated (come to think of it, Owen Lars had a little of this in Episode IV).

I interpret the Jedi as being symbolic of Christians. Some people respect Christianity, even if they themselves are not. Others absolutely hate Christians. When I watched the Prequels, especially Episodes I & II I was often disappointed in the Jedi. Yes, they have supernatural abilities, but they often make major mistakes. Obi-Wan wasn't all that nice to Anakin in the beginning, and the Jedi left Boba Fett orphaned and alone. However, this in and of itself is a good Biblical lesson: if we were perfect, we wouldn't need the saving. God grants salvation to imperfect people and then conforms them to the mind of Christ--but this is a lifelong process. Going back to the blog that inspired me to write this--do I see Christians as guardians? Yes, but like the fictional Jedi, we make mistakes. We sin. That is why Jesus tells us not to judge, because only a Perfect Judge can be just.

The Prequels

If the original Trilogy focuses on Jedi and the redemptive power of the Light Side of the Force, then the Prequels focus on the Sith and the seductiveness of the Dark Side. I did not think it was a mistake that Palpatine's robes have red streaks when he first tempts Anakin with the Dark Side. Palpatine certainly signifies Satan. Like the biblical devil he is manipulative, shrewd, he twists the truth, he is a liar, he plays with emotions. The Bible says that knowledge puffs up and Palpatine tells Anakin, "I foresee that you will be the greatest of all the Jedi". He puffs Anakin with pride and the Bible tells us "pride goes before a fall". Like the devil Palpatine gets people "bogged down in procedure" and gives them phantom menaces to chase while a larger problem goes unchecked (i.e., their spiritual condition).

The part in Episode III that gets me the most is how right on Anakin is when he says, "the Jedi are selfless, they only care about others." In Philippians 2:3-4 Paul writes: "Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others" (NIV version). Paul says that's the attitude Christ Jesus had during his ministry on Earth and as Christians (which simply means "little christs") we ought to have the same. So the Sith and the Jedi are not the same; although I can see how Palpatine can twist it into that.

THE MAGIC OF MYTH goes into other ways Lucas borrowed from the Bible, but the point of this blog was to communicate that I believe he might have borrowed more than that book pointed out.

I apologize that this is not exhaustive and there is so much more to say on the subject. Perhaps this is "Part 1".


  Jadakin
Hyperspace
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 12:49 PM
You know it is true that George Lucas grew in a prayer filled America. They prayed in schools until 1962 and George Lucas graduated from High School in 1962, which means he prayed all his school life. Second his name is George Lucas. George is a saint, and Lucas is greek for Luke and Luke was an apostle. So I think George Lucas obviously grew up in a Bible Beliving family.
  Jadakin
Hyperspace
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 12:54 PM
I don't think he made Star Wars to be similar to the Bible, but to some of the things The Bible teaches us. I don't agree with your Obi-Wan Kenobi analogy. He says that what he writes is what he does in his life, if you saw The Star Wars Episode I The Phantom Menace Documentry. And the way Darth Vaders beliefs turn back to The Light Side Of The Force, is also showing you how people can believe.
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:01 PM
In regards to the name "Lucas" and "Luke" if you go to babynames.com you will find Luke means "light", sometime I would like to do a blog on the significance of the names of the "Star Wars" characters.
  Jadakin
Hyperspace
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:04 PM
I think we can all know that George Lucas used parts of The Bible to create Star Wars. Do you know what is his religion, I read on Wikipedia or something like that that he is a Methodist.
  Jadakin
Hyperspace
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:05 PM
So basically a Protestant.
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:07 PM
I really didn't know.

The way I look at it God is the Creator who has made human beings creative, so if He wants to say something through a creative human being the human being doesn't necessarily have to know it (but I hope Lucas does).
  Jadakin
Hyperspace
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:11 PM
I believe George Lucas is a Believer and a Christian, and when I say Christian I mean every sect, Protestants, Catholic, Orthodox. If you look at Indiana Jones movies, the first one and the third one have to do with things dircetly coming from The Bible, The Ark.
  darthgenious7
Chickens only cross the road after coercion.
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:13 PM
I maintain that the jedi order and structure was based on buddist sects but there are a lot of christian overtones with redemption and self-sacrifice leading the way in star wars. I have been working on this blog for two days now and hope to publish tonight after I get out of physical therapy (I left part of my foot in Afghanistan). My blog focuses solely on the jedi order and how it compares to buddists and not the overall messages and other symbolism in the movies. I feel that would be too broad of a topic and I have mixed feelings on the different symbols and what each one could be equated to.
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:13 PM
I hope you're right.
  Jadakin
Hyperspace
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:15 PM
FAN4YRS who are you talking to when you say I hope you're right. Me or darthgenious7
  Jadakin
Hyperspace
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:16 PM
darthgenious7, George Lucas said he just got the fighting style and clothes from those people.
  Jadakin
Hyperspace
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:17 PM
But as you go on with the movies you see that the fighting style is brand new and original.
  jedimaster13109
Meditations of a Star Wars Fan
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:19 PM
Well thought out, FAN4YRS!
It is interesting that some of the greatest stories of mankind have their roots in the Bible. The Lord of the Rings, the Chronicles of Narnia and of course the Star wars Saga.
Interestingly, when I see ROTJ and luke aboard the Death Star it reminds me of Jesus' tempation in the desert for 40 days. Luke like Christ willingly goes to face his destiny, where he is tempted by the Emperor (Satan) to forsake his Jedi mission and join him and rule the galaxy.
  jedimaster13109
Meditations of a Star Wars Fan
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:22 PM
GL said ages ago that the character Yoda and the orginal vision of the Jedi in ESB was inspired by Buddist monks. Think about it- robes, meditation, oneness with the force compares to enlightenment. The fact remains though that GL didn't base it on the religious side of Buddism but on the lifestyle and meditations and teachings of it. The religious aspects of the saga clearly came from the Bible.
  Darth Rex0
So be it....
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:24 PM
(I left part of my foot in Afghanistan).

Never and I mean never will I pass up an opportunity to thank a veteran. Your service is/was appreciated. I come from a family of lifers in the military. Thanks. We may not all beleive in the cause our troops are over ther for, but remember that the troops over there are doing wonderful and heroic things.

  Dark_Load
The Death Star's Laundromat
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:33 PM
From the Star Wars Episode I Scrapbook:

"The Force evolved out of various developments of character and plot. I wanted a concept of religion based on the premise that there is a God and there is good and evil. I began to distill the essence of all religions into what I thought was a basic idea common to all religions and common to primitive thinking." Cont'd
  Dark_Load
The Death Star's Laundromat
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:33 PM
I wanted to develop something that was nondenominational but still had a kind of religious reality. I believe in God and I believe in right and wrong. I also beleive that there are basic tenets which through history have developed into certainties, such as "thou shalt not kill." I don't want to hurt other people. "Do unto others..." is a philosophy that permeates my work."

-George Lucas on the Force.
  Dark_Load
The Death Star's Laundromat
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:34 PM
I don't know if that helps...
  Jadakin
Hyperspace
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:36 PM
I guess we can all conclude what his religion is based off this information you have given us.
  Jadakin
Hyperspace
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:39 PM
For a thousand generations The Jedi Knights were the keepers of peace and justice in The Old Repubilc. Obi-Wan Kenobi Star Wars Episode IV A New Hope.

A young Jedi named Freedon Nadd, ventured off to Yavin IV and met with an ancient Sith Lord, Nadd was seduced by The Dark Side Of The Force. Arca Jeth, The Sith War movie.
  darthgenious7
Chickens only cross the road after coercion.
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:39 PM
Thanks Rex. You don't have to hold back your feelings about the war for me I don't support either one we are fighting right now but everyone over there has my support. Jadakin and Jedimaster13109 I will attempt to provide deeper comparisons when I finish my piece. but 13109 you hit on the most obvious oints already. Jadakin for the record the MAJORITY of buddists don't have a fighting style they are mainly pacifists. Don't believe everything Hollywood and bad Kung-fu flicks throw at you.
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:40 PM
When I said "I hope your right" I was talking to you, Jadakin. As for darthgenious7, I think it is safe to say "thank you" for your service in the war. I always say "thank you" when I meet a Veteran. Even if it's over the internet.
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 1:49 PM
jedimaster13109, thanks for your comment about Luke, I can see what you mean. In fact, when the Emperor taunts him he says: "You're wrong...soon I'll be dead, and you with me." Luke really wasn't planning on making it out of there alive, his first concerning was saving his father.
  prettypadme999
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 2:07 PM
Man, you could spend hours on this subject! I apologize if someone said this already, as I have not yet read the comments, but a usual overlooked detail in 1,2, and 3 is that there are 12 seats on the Jedi Counciul, the number is exact to the leaders of the 12 tribes of Isreal. Pretty cool stuff, to say the least!:D
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 2:15 PM
prettypadme999--I hadn't thought of that, of course, that was also the number of disciples.
  darthgenious7
Chickens only cross the road after coercion.
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 2:32 PM
the one thing about 12 is jesus would have made 13 and anakin joins the 12 so it could be coincidence but I don't think the number of seats is good point about the tribes though padme.
  Qymaen-Grievous
date Posted: Feb 17, 2006 6:23 PM
I read somewhere that George does not adhere to any religion. He is member of the Methodist Church, though.
There are lots of references to real-world religions im Star Wars.
The Chosen One concept=Christianity/Judaism.
5 towers in the Jedi temple=5 pillars of Islam.
the Jedi philosophy= clearly based on Buddhism.
Vader's redemption:Christianity.
The Force: may be based on Chi.(Taoism?)
MTFBYA:)
  Jadakin
Hyperspace
date Posted: Feb 18, 2006 2:06 PM
I read somewhere that George does not adhere to any religion. He is member of the Methodist Church, though.
I read that too on Wikipedia. But I also found many lies on that website about Star Wars and the movies.
  AnakinSkywalker_rox
date Posted: Feb 18, 2006 4:10 PM
Gr8 blog, FAN4YRS. I completely see your points... and agree with them. :)

I never thought about the Jedi abandoning the orphaned Bobba Fett... nice call !! ;)

You've got a gr8 point of view.... one that I share and hope many others will share in the days to come.
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Feb 18, 2006 4:17 PM
Thanks, AnakinSkywalker_rox. I appreciate your comments.
  jediholteh
date Posted: Mar 10, 2006 7:02 AM
This is a rather late reply, but since I just found this, I'll coment anyways :p

I, personally, love your analogy between Christ and Obi-Wan. Especially the part "if you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine." Jesus Christ became just that when he died on the cross. More powerful, influential, and moving than any one person could possibly imagine. My mother doesn't believe there is any Biblical value in SW, I'll have to show her this. You have some very good points, great blog!
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Mar 10, 2006 7:10 AM
Thanks, I don't mind late entries. I would have liked this blog to be seen by more folks. I find a lot of older adults reluctant to see any biblical value in "Star Wars". The Bible says: "To the pure, all things are pure", perhaps when you are looking with reborn eyes, you can't help but see Jesus wherever you look.
  TARGET III
date Posted: Jun 20, 2006 8:27 PM
Now how old is older you speak of ?LOL I'm 33 and I've been in love with Star Wars since 77' and I've also been inLove for 10 Yrs. now since i've been saved.Like most of us fans I would say I know most of Star Wars inside out and I see many , many bible/christianity references in the movies.and thats good.It's hard to find movies these days that I can feel save to sit and watch with my 3 yro boy without having my fingers on the mute and skip buttons.Myself I am a PAOC Penticostal and I know that quite a few ppl in my church are star wars fans too.I never really thought of what Ob1 said, like that before. kool
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Jun 20, 2006 9:09 PM
I am 32. When I say "older adults" I mean people my parents again, mid-60's.
Qui-Tom Servo loves Padme
You Must Unlearn What You Have Learned
date Posted: Aug 11, 2006 4:28 PM
Very interesting blog. Like you, I like the religious imagery in Star Wars, but understand that it is not a perfect match with the Bible, nor was it intended to be. For what it's worth George Lucas has described himself as a Buddhist Methodist. He did a fascinating interview with Bill Moyers in Time Magazine back in 1999 for TPM.

And in the event you're interested, here is a blog I wrote about lessons learned from Vader and what his redemption means for us.
  Captain Peabody
date Posted: Oct 23, 2006 3:55 PM
Excellent blog! The Jedi are clearly a mixture of the classical ideals of the monk (wear brown robes, not allowed to marry, are often somewhat ascetic) and the Knight (have a Code by which they live, are defenders of the faith, help maintain peace), both of which have been passed down to us from the middle ages.

As to Palpatine, GL himself has referred to him on numerous occasions as the Devil, so no argument there.

Again, good blog.

-Captain Peabody
  Captain Peabody
date Posted: Oct 23, 2006 3:55 PM
Excellent blog! The Jedi are clearly a mixture of the classical ideals of the monk (wear brown robes, not allowed to marry, are often somewhat ascetic) and the Knight (have a Code by which they live, are defenders of the faith, help maintain peace), both of which have been passed down to us from the middle ages.

As to Palpatine, GL himself has referred to him on numerous occasions as the Devil, so no argument there.

Again, good blog.

-Captain Peabody
  Captain Peabody
date Posted: Oct 23, 2006 3:56 PM
Stupid double post.......:8}
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Oct 23, 2006 4:35 PM
Thanks Captain Peabody. I am glad someone responded. I often seen that some of my older blogs are my most popular, but no one leaves a comment. This is great!
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